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Old 10-23-2008, 07:55 PM
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So I noticed this car likes to break the back loose much easier then I had expected. Of course that could be fun and all but not at the track. I want to know what are some good wings out there that really glue the back of the car to the ground? I am also looking for it to be removable, if possible since I don't want it on when I'm not at the track. Some of those wings will make you look like you fly, and I do not fly anywhere Thanks!!!
Old 10-23-2008, 08:09 PM
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Did you upgrade the suspension and tires already?
Old 10-23-2008, 08:23 PM
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Suspension is pretty set. I haven't looked under the car yet but just driving it around I have noticed how well it handles. The cobra I had was lowered, shocks/struts, subframes and such and even with the IRS didn't handle this well. The tires will def need to be upgraded. Right now I am riding on the nitto 555s and we all know how great those are for traction. I am hoping tomorrow I will be able to see what the car has suspension wise.
Old 10-23-2008, 08:39 PM
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Downforce would be the last thing I would add. R-compound tires, coilovers with higher spring rates, sway bars and a good 1.5way limited slip diff would be the way to go first. Those mods will help you get the power down.
Old 10-23-2008, 08:44 PM
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can you point me in the direction o the 1.5way LSD please. I will look into seeing what this car already has done to it and go off of the list. I know it doesnt have the lsd though. I keep feeling one tire break haha.
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Check into:

NISMO
Cusco
Carbonetic
Quaife

If you have a base model then you do not have an LSD. You have an open diff.
Old 10-24-2008, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
Check into:

NISMO
Cusco
Carbonetic
Quaife

If you have a base model then you do not have an LSD. You have an open diff.
Don't forget to mention OS Giken. They make an outstanding LSD.
Old 10-28-2008, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by XSpeedAddictX
So I noticed this car likes to break the back loose much easier then I had expected. Of course that could be fun and all but not at the track. I want to know what are some good wings out there that really glue the back of the car to the ground? I am also looking for it to be removable, if possible since I don't want it on when I'm not at the track. Some of those wings will make you look like you fly, and I do not fly anywhere Thanks!!!
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:01 AM
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Definitely listen to Jet, even though I'm not currently a track-rat such as himself, I've done enough research to know he's definitely pointing you in the right direction. And as a plus, for the time being, you won't look like you're flying. Once you do everything he listed, then look into aero.

Aero won't be effective until you're at very high speeds, at least in excess of 75-80+ MPH. It sounds like your problems, at least right now, are due to suspension, tires, and lack of an LSD.
Old 10-29-2008, 11:27 AM
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Downforce is the last mod to do.
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Hate to revive a very dead thread, but it happens to be relevant to myself. I have 265/40/18 Advan Neova ad08, Koni Truechoice Phase 2 suspension, and a Quaife LSD. I'd like to now look into a large removable spoiler for track purposes, any ideas?
Old 05-01-2013, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CptWiggles
Hate to revive a very dead thread, but it happens to be relevant to myself. I have 265/40/18 Advan Neova ad08, Koni Truechoice Phase 2 suspension, and a Quaife LSD. I'd like to now look into a large removable spoiler for track purposes, any ideas?
Do you want a functional splitter to go with it? If not, really no point of having a functional wing.
Old 05-01-2013, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CptWiggles
Hate to revive a very dead thread, but it happens to be relevant to myself. I have 265/40/18 Advan Neova ad08, Koni Truechoice Phase 2 suspension, and a Quaife LSD. I'd like to now look into a large removable spoiler for track purposes, any ideas?
Don't apologize. Most folk ask questions over and over and over when the answer is one click away. Your click was from October 2008. You're my hero. That is one hellova "I used search so as not to repost".

I know of no good removable wings (spoilers). I don't think they exist as a real thing that would effect the performance.

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Old 05-02-2013, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Do you want a functional splitter to go with it? If not, really no point of having a functional wing.
Well I've been debating on whether to go with a Nismo style front lip like this,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nissan-Z33-Fairlady-Z-350Z-06-09-Nis-Style-Poly-Urethane-PU-Front-Bumper-Lip-Kit-/190765529817?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A2008%7CModel%3A350Z&hash=item2c6a82fad9&vxp=mtr
Or to just make a standard diffuser out of some light and sturdy material and then figure out a way to mount it. And I also plan on going with the Downforce USA side splitters.

Edit: that link turned out very different than I had imagined it would.
Old 05-02-2013, 03:16 PM
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all the commericially available GT wings are 'removeable' -- you will just have the base plate attached to the hatch, or the holes there.. but the stands and airfoil itself can be removed fairly easily, it's just held on with like four bolts...

not quite sure what you're aiming for.. like super stealth removal? you could always get stickers to plug up the holes.
Old 06-19-2013, 09:46 PM
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A wing isnt going to make enough downforce below 100mph to make a noticable difference. GT Wings are for cars capable of +200mph and normal operating speeds above 100mph. If you have $200,000 to build a LM Class 350z then you need to buy a $3000 CF wing to go with it. Also if you do this I would like to go for a ride. Thanks!

On the other hand, if you are building a Z with some decent horsepower, and you want the look to go with it, go for it. Its just not going to improve anything.
Old 06-19-2013, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mod350z
Its just not going to improve anything.
Some would disagree that the Z can't hit triple digits speed on the track.
Old 06-19-2013, 10:37 PM
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Mod350z said it's useless... Interesting....
Old 06-19-2013, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mod350z
A wing isnt going to make enough downforce below 100mph to make a noticable difference. GT Wings are for cars capable of +200mph and normal operating speeds above 100mph. If you have $200,000 to build a LM Class 350z then you need to buy a $3000 CF wing to go with it. Also if you do this I would like to go for a ride. Thanks!

On the other hand, if you are building a Z with some decent horsepower, and you want the look to go with it, go for it. Its just not going to improve anything.
APR wing, about 70mph is where it comes on.
Old 06-22-2013, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
APR wing, about 70mph is where it comes on.
I am not saying a N/A Z cant hold triple digits on straight aways. At 70mph in a corner do you really need the little bit of downforce you're going to get? If you were cornering at 100mph I could see yes. But realistically this guy seems to think it will make a difference in DD. I guess that's where my "useless" point comes in.


The threshold for lateral G stability in a 350Z changes dramatically after 70mph, so yes, in a race track scenario it will make a difference I guess, but even then with a ~300hp N/A tune do you really want the extra drag?

Personally and LM Style GT wing belongs on a LM GT car in the performance scenario.

But, for aesthetics with the right wheel/tire combo, the right front and rear splitter and side lip setup. It looks freaking bada$$.

So I hope all the sarcasimites have been satisfied.

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