turboed350z

To start off, this is not a bashing thread but just my opinion and me looking for others opinion. If you get offended by this. I'm sorry and it was not my intention to do so.

Now on to the thread:

So lately I've notice, not just with z owners but basically in the whole car scene, that the following has become extremely popular. Stretched tires, way too much camber, slammed so low to the ground.

A little background on these "mods": (correct me if in wrong)

Camber was and is still use in professional racing such as formula f1 and nascar and such. The purpose is to increase the handling of the car. I believe anything pass -.2 it becomes counter productive.

Slammed was also design for racing purposes. The car sits as close to the ground as possible for better center of gravity and to reduce the amount of air traveling under the car.

Now, these people take these mods to the extreme. Camber so much that the wheels are nearly parallel to the ground. They slam their cars so low that any inconsistency in the road surface means they will scrape.

To me, "rice" has always be about using performance mod for visual effect. Best example is the big wing/spoilers. These are necessary on certain cars, yet are consider rice because they are useless on most street cars.

To me, stretched tires, over cambered, slammed are being use in the same way, slam and camber has a place in the racing world, but on street cars and being overly done is useless. I have no idea the purpose of stretch tires. To me, these three are rice and nothing but a trend. In the future, they will see the same fate as the big wings/spoilers. Consider rice by most because the trend is played out.

What's your opinion? Rice? Or nice?

gabez33

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are you talking about the "Hella Gay" fad that has hit the Z community? Fatlace, Illest poser *** way to ruin a sports car with a real hertige thing?

if so...I say completely RICE, makes me vomit when i see a Z that has be defiled like this...if people knew the actually history and heritage on datson/nissan Z this wouldn't be..

Phenom

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It's neither. It's just gay.

Flo-ridaZ33

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Neither... it's dumb.

iideadeyeii

iTrader: (6)

OP referring to this.

Phenom

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^^^ The fitment on literally everything on that car is terrible. Front bumper, hood, quarter panels, side skirts. But it's scraping the ground so the non-car guys will think it's "fly" and not even notice that it looks like it was built with junkyard parts.

Bellisima_Z

I like a slammed car but not too that point... That's just fuggly and overdone.

To me this is perfect

RobinHood5

I hate this look. I can see having slightly wider than factory tires just for the aesthetics but I think once the camber is thrown way off and the body is rubbing the pavement its ruined.

Flo-ridaZ33

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When a sports car no longer can be driven like a sports car... what's the point?

frocker93

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[QUOTE=turboed350z;10471966]. I believe anything pass -.2 it becomes counter productive.

I don't think that is right because the Z is stock with 1.8-2.3 degrees of camber. I completely agree with you about camber and that it is still beneficial,but .2 degrees is pretty much straight vertical.

travlee

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no drive-able on normal streets, the mud guards are like an inch off the ground

think mine is -.3 or something, one day i will change it but i dont race or anything

turboed350z

[QUOTE=frocker93;10472075]I forgot what degree it is, but I'm fairly certain that is was a low amount is when you actually start losing traction. Isn't 0 degree straight? So .2 is like pointed in right? -.2 is where it sticks out.

travlee

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you got it backwards sir

if the top of the wheel is going away from the centerline of the car, that is positive

going in towards the center of the car, that is negative

Jah70

I think it is rice just like years ago when people thought neon glow, huge wings and crazy anime graphics were cool. One thing however that will never change is a lowered car.

The Yellow 370Z might be slightly too much because I would be worried about getting into my driveway but I like the look.




This slight lowered look is fine with me, still functional and looks good.

turboed350z

I was saying -.2 is where the bottom of the wheel sticks out. So the top is pointed in and the bottom is pointed out. Didn't know how to properly word it haha

Phenom

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If you want to see the perfect height and wheel fitment for the Z, go find a picture of sry110's car. Low enough that it's visually appealing and aggressive looking, but not low to the point that suspension geometry and alignment is compromised. You want the car to retain that "it can haul *** around the track" look. Once your bumper is half an inch off the ground and you have 6 degrees of neg camber that track-capable look goes right out the window.

Jah70

Aren't they track capable right out the factory anyways
Just slap a oil cooler and new tires and your off to the track. Depending on your model you might want to get an LSD and some different brake pads and rotors.

travlee

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capable, not optimal

Phenom

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Not necessarily, as long as it's a quality part. A voltex or APR wing will never be rice because it's a quality, functional part. Ricers don't buy voltex or APR wings because they are too expensive. If you want to argue that putting a voltex/apr/etc wing on a car that never gets tracked is rice, then that's a different argument altogether, but even in that case I still argue that it's not rice.

Crappy ebay or knockoff exhausts, yeah. A high quality exhaust that is simply loud, not rice.

Always rice

Jah70

Well yeah . Would the Nismo versions be considered optimal (more optimal than regular models)? I know the 370Z Nismo puts a lot more effort to performing on a track than the regular 370Z. Don't know about the Z33 Nismo if it's just a bunch of make up and lipstick or an actual upgraded performer over the regular 350Z. Never drove a Z33 Nismo so someone could chime in.