New Z owner, question about driving in snow.
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The only real limiting factors with the Z specifically and snow are
Ride Height
RWD
Other than that, I don't think it's a much different situation than any other car. Our cars have pretty good sensors to help you as much as they can to keep you on the road.
Ride Height - you can't really get around that. Keep it home if there's a lot of accumulation. And stay away from plowed chunks of snow/ice.
RWD - everyone knows RWD is not preferred over FWD in the snow. AWD obviously best. It is what it is. FWD, better front end control (pulling vs pushing), more weight on the front power driven wheel.
Ride Height
RWD
Other than that, I don't think it's a much different situation than any other car. Our cars have pretty good sensors to help you as much as they can to keep you on the road.
Ride Height - you can't really get around that. Keep it home if there's a lot of accumulation. And stay away from plowed chunks of snow/ice.
RWD - everyone knows RWD is not preferred over FWD in the snow. AWD obviously best. It is what it is. FWD, better front end control (pulling vs pushing), more weight on the front power driven wheel.
Last edited by JERZ350; 02-06-2015 at 07:31 AM.
#23
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I have had snow tires (Dunlop Winter Sport M3) for 3 winters now and it makes a huge difference compared to summer tires.
IMO it is great to have a set of winter tires for the Z; however, you should really only drive the Z in the snow if you HAVE to.
I have owned the car now for over 5 years and the first 2 winters I just had my one set of summer tires, and I got stuck multiple times in the snow. Then as I mentioned for the past 2 winters and this winter I have been using my snow tires and I never got stuck. Also, I have a daily now so I rarely drive the Z in the winter. Come to think about it, I think I drove it maybe 3 times since my wedding which was the middle of November.
Buy a set of used OEM wheels, preferably already with snow tires from the forum. That is what I did. Super cheap and gets the job done.
IMO it is great to have a set of winter tires for the Z; however, you should really only drive the Z in the snow if you HAVE to.
I have owned the car now for over 5 years and the first 2 winters I just had my one set of summer tires, and I got stuck multiple times in the snow. Then as I mentioned for the past 2 winters and this winter I have been using my snow tires and I never got stuck. Also, I have a daily now so I rarely drive the Z in the winter. Come to think about it, I think I drove it maybe 3 times since my wedding which was the middle of November.
Buy a set of used OEM wheels, preferably already with snow tires from the forum. That is what I did. Super cheap and gets the job done.
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During sandy I got stuck at work when it started snowing, when I left the roads were but half hour in and the roads are covered. I lived up in Passaic county and worked in Sussex and had to drive rt 23 near Franklin to get home. I had to stop for a pickup in front of me, on a hill, in rush hour with blizzard. I was able to floor It in 4th and got enough grip to get going. I make it all to the end of my street which was flat and got stuck. Oh I forgot, all of this was on hankook v12s
#26
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The extra siping and closed tread is designed to bite snow. It was not designed to channel away water. This actually increases the chance of hydroplaning.
#27
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- The wider the tire (all other things being equal), the more it will hydroplane.
- The lower the profile (all other things being equal), the more it will hydroplane.
- The more stiff the sidewall (all other things being equal), the more it will hydroplane.
The reasons drivers notice less hydroplaning with studless snow tires:
- They often run more narrow tires (215 to 225mm on snow tires vs. 245-285mm on summer tires).
- Many studless snow tires have a “block tread” that instantly clears water.
Also... Tread design can certainly affect aquaplaning. There are some snow tire designs that float quickly, as well as some summer performance tires that are very resistant to hydroplaning.
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Closed block and siping would hold water, would it not?
#29
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I think that is correct.
I notice that siping isn’t common on modern studless snow tires. In fact you actually see tire stores offering this as a service for an additional charge. I certainly would not do this for the reason you mention. If you add siping to your thread, the small cuts won’t clear water and you increase aquaplaning.
The Dunlop studless snow tires I'm running now do not have siping, and the tread is an open block style. I don't have a problem with aquaplaning. --Spike
I notice that siping isn’t common on modern studless snow tires. In fact you actually see tire stores offering this as a service for an additional charge. I certainly would not do this for the reason you mention. If you add siping to your thread, the small cuts won’t clear water and you increase aquaplaning.
The Dunlop studless snow tires I'm running now do not have siping, and the tread is an open block style. I don't have a problem with aquaplaning. --Spike
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I think that is correct.
I notice that siping isn’t common on modern studless snow tires. In fact you actually see tire stores offering this as a service for an additional charge. I certainly would not do this for the reason you mention. If you add siping to your thread, the small cuts won’t clear water and you increase aquaplaning.
The Dunlop studless snow tires I'm running now do not have siping, and the tread is an open block style. I don't have a problem with aquaplaning. --Spike
I notice that siping isn’t common on modern studless snow tires. In fact you actually see tire stores offering this as a service for an additional charge. I certainly would not do this for the reason you mention. If you add siping to your thread, the small cuts won’t clear water and you increase aquaplaning.
The Dunlop studless snow tires I'm running now do not have siping, and the tread is an open block style. I don't have a problem with aquaplaning. --Spike
If it's different in America, please disregard my previous comment.
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anyone that tells u driving this in snow is a problem has never really driven in snow. I daily this in Canada with winter storms etc. just get some good winter tires. and u wont spin out in snow.
ice however is bad. one night all the rain froze over into black ice and I spun out n did a 360 in the middle of a street. luckly at that moment there was no on coming traffic or my car would of been totaled.
ice however is bad. one night all the rain froze over into black ice and I spun out n did a 360 in the middle of a street. luckly at that moment there was no on coming traffic or my car would of been totaled.
#33
Here in Ct, we are getting hammered with snow, the car SUCKS in the snow,SUCKS!
New tires, traction control or not, I have a manual shift, and on flat roads it isnt un-driveable, but hills ? my wife just had to park it 1 1/2 miles away and walk home.
If it is your only car, your daily driver and it snows alot where you live, you will be calling in a few times to work, school, whatever.
I have a Tiburon and a 4x4 chevy truck but both are out of commision at the moment so she took car to work and discovered she cant get home.
I suppose if you got real good snows or studs maybe it would improve, I dont know as I dont have either.
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New tires, traction control or not, I have a manual shift, and on flat roads it isnt un-driveable, but hills ? my wife just had to park it 1 1/2 miles away and walk home.
If it is your only car, your daily driver and it snows alot where you live, you will be calling in a few times to work, school, whatever.
I have a Tiburon and a 4x4 chevy truck but both are out of commision at the moment so she took car to work and discovered she cant get home.
I suppose if you got real good snows or studs maybe it would improve, I dont know as I dont have either.
Lump
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Your 300 hp rear-wheel 245 tire car will spin the f out. TCS makes it so that the first instant your car slips, it cuts power to your drive wheels. If TCS is not there you will spin out. It is quite literally a life saver.
Maybe if you are stuck in some deep pow you can turn it off to get off the line, but even then, your wheels will spin and you will dig yourself deeper.
Other life savers:
- Sand bag in the trunk for weight and traction + Emergency relief (I keep mine just beside the spare under the carpet so it's hidden)
- Emergency shovel and traction pads
Then you're good to go.
TCS ON!
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quick question, can you please send me a link to the exact Blizzaks that will fit my car? It's a 08 enthusiast automatic (if it means anything). Also , for the snow, are the Blizzaks my best bet or is there something better like yours? or do they do the same job just as good?
I ran Nordic this winter, which get better ratings than the Blizzaks, but my front went flat and I got Blizzaks in the front. Very good tires.
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Hey guys. If I plan to only drive when it is not snowing during winter, do I still need Blizzaks, will it be dangerous. I think I will get a rental for snow, icy days. I mean if I have to, I will have to, then. I want to be safe and keep my beautiful machine intact.