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1. Those of you who keep saying how 370z weights more than your 2003 350z, it does but not by much at all (3188 vs. 3232). Come on man, I bet you 95% of the same car models from year 2003 to 2009 gained a lot of weight so an increase of 44lbs is almost nothing.
2. This 370z has much better power to weight ratio than 2003 350z.
2003 350z (3188lbs, 268HP) = 11.896
3. If you read the specs, it says the hood, door panels and hatch are all aluminium. That means lowered center of gravity = Better Handling.
So overall, I'd say it's a much improved Z!
Where did you get that spec from?
My 2004 Z has 287HP. The 03-05 have 287HP/274lbs tq.
you are missing the point or don't want to see it, it is not that it weighs just over the 2003 350Z is that they touted it as a lighter, smaller Z and they did not deliver.
It's smaller and lighter than the current Z. And more powerful. And will handle better. You just had stupid unrealistic expectations, and that's not Nissan's problem.
It's smaller and lighter than the current Z. And more powerful. And will handle better. You just had stupid unrealistic expectations, and that's not Nissan's problem.
why is it unrealistic??? it is not my fault that people settle for less
Im not saying the 370Z is BAD. However, IMO it is no longer the best "bang for the buck". In December 2002 the 350Z set the benchmark in performance for the money. For $35,000 Im pretty confident I can do better.
I remember Nissan talking about making the Z lighter, even before the HR Z's were released, before all your newbs with the attitudes even owned a Z. It was either gonna be close to 350HP or <3100 lbs that was really gonna be the point of buying this car for a lot of current Z owners. It didn't achieve either. Most of the people defending the 370z, don't even own a 350z or think their Z sucks at the moment, which is absolutely ridiculous.
I'm content with the specs for the most part. More horsepower, similar or less weight, along with more luxury wrapped in a package that I think looks pretty good. Seems like a win-win proposition to me.
One needs to remember that the listed weights for late model 350Zs did not hold true, so the same thing may occur with the 370Z.
When we talk about the "heavy" 350Z, shared chassis and platforms are always mentioned. I believe the 370Z still shares the same FM platform, so I don't see how weight can be decreased very much. When the G37 came out, increased rigidity was talked about. Of course with increased rigidity, typically comes increased weight, so if they were able to increase rigidity of the 370Z over the 350Z while decreasing weight, that seems pretty good.
I remember Nissan talking about making the Z lighter, even before the HR Z's were released, before all your newbs with the attitudes even owned a Z. It was either gonna be close to 350HP or <3100 lbs that was really gonna be the point of buying this car for a lot of current Z owners. It didn't achieve either. Most of the people defending the 370z, don't even own a 350z or think their Z sucks at the moment, which is absolutely ridiculous.
Doesn't really matter if Nissan beat the weight of the 350 or not. It still has more power. I can undertand the 350 fans being 50/50 on wether they like it or not. That's the way the 350 was taken in with the 300ZXTT crowd.
The 370Z will bring in it's own fan base just like every other Z model before it. And it will be just as succesful as the 350 was. When this car get's into the hands of private owners and they start modding it, it's going to be a very popular sports car.
Oh and with the mention of peak torque versus the Z33, well the 370Z will be a good deal faster than the DE or the HR, so I don't see what the problem is.
I'm content with the specs for the most part. More horsepower, similar or less weight, along with more luxury wrapped in a package that I think looks pretty good. Seems like a win-win proposition to me.
One needs to remember that the listed weights for late model 350Zs did not hold true, so the same thing may occur with the 370Z.
When we talk about the "heavy" 350Z, shared chassis and platforms are always mentioned. I believe the 370Z still shares the same FM platform, so I don't see how weight can be decreased very much. When the G37 came out, increased rigidity was talked about. Of course with increased rigidity, typically comes increased weight, so if they were able to increase rigidity of the 370Z over the 350Z while decreasing weight, that seems pretty good.
I can undertand the 350 fans being 50/50 on wether they like it or not. That's the way the 350 was taken in with the 300ZXTT crowd.
This pretty much happens when any new car model comes out. From being on car forums over the last couple years, things can get pretty interesting, but overtime, the majority of people are won over.
After reading over some of those PDF's, im confident they have a great car here and a worthy upgrade. Seems we have a lot of nice items standard on the 370Z, and the sport package can be added on the "base" 350z, unlike in the past having to go with a Track or GT model. I really dont know why anyone is freaking out about the weight or weight distribution. The specs state the 370z having a 54/46% dist... the 350z is currently 53/47%. I doubt this will affect much considering the R&D invested, and advancements.
Some of you have to be realistic here, there was no way Nissan was going to deliver a mid 3100lb car with a bigger motor and upgraded materials all around. Im sure they could, but would you pay the extra 5-10k for more aluminum and carbon parts needed? This would knock out the majority of their target market. Needless to say, for DE and revup owners like myself, this should be a substantial upgrade, and maybe a nice one too for HR owners due to the 26hp and better FD.
I can't wait to see how the new motor responds to mods, understeer will probably be a little worse with such a heavy front end... but then again, with such a light back it shouldn't be hard to slide the back side around
Overall can't see it handling much better than the current z, but I guess the power can help make up for it
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Is there anyway that I can open my car with the key?
I'm very impressed with the specs and will be purchasing a 370z (just not the 1st year its released). I'll be getting the base 370z for 30k. This car will be a beast.
I think some of you are very spoiled & unrealistic.
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I have no reservations about buying one early in the production run. It's not a new model, per se, rather numerous changes on an existing platform. Considering the '03 was basically a clean-sheet design, I think Nissan did extremely well.
Ha for the people saying this car will be slightly faster then the HR Z's... you gotta be joking... almost 30hp +300 lbs from early 350z's to later ones and the later ones are MUCH faster in a straight line over .5sec in the 1/4... now its going to lose 300 lbs and gain almost 30hp with a sick dyno graph and you think its going to be "slightly" faster... ANYWAY i think its a big step up you guys have to realize they can't just throw more power and cut weight because that cost money... if you want more then look elsewhere or modify simple as that.
Larger/Wider powerband, more agressive gearing, less weight, more power.
Bigger tires from the factory, shorter car, I think the car is going in the right direction.
I WOULD have liked to see more power, but how realistic is that? Not very. I WOULD have liked to see a lighter car, however. IMO, the car is too heavy for what it is given TODAY's performance standards. Yes, the Z32 was heavier, but it's also almost 20 years older, and is a 2+2. This is a straight up 2 seater. 3000 Lbs should have been a VERY realistic figure.
I do understand that metal prices have been skyrocketing, and if the prices were the same as 2 years ago, a 150 lb weight reduction would have been very possible for the same cost.
All I can say is, as much as I like rowing my own gears, it would seem that the 7AT may have an advantage under more situations than everyone realizes.
