370z vs Mustang GT
07-26-2012, 09:33 PM
#24
Solid Axle, Room for 5 and top model maxing out in the $60's... maybe a couple models are comparable but in reality there no where near the same in anything. A Vette and a Z have more in common pricing aside. I'm not hating BTW as I love Mustangs but the caparison sounds like something that was written in a Car & Driver more than real life.
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07-27-2012, 10:57 AM
#25
you mention one of your points as the higher tier models going into the 60s, then go on to talk about vettes being close, aside from pricing? the only mustangs that aren't really comparable / cross shopped with the Z are special models, and people wouldn't really be cross shopping the Z with them (boss/boss ls, shelbys, roush, saleen etc)
many people cross shop mustangs and 370z's. I fail to see how the rear suspension setup would make them non comparable, please enlighten me.
they are both performance based coupes. don't let the backseat fool you, full sized adults are not fitting back there comfortably, and they can't seat 5. in all actuality it's a two seater with a bit more utility than the Z. you can toss something behind your seat for storage, or you can carry a third / 4th person in a pinch, but they aren't going to be happy.
the price points, performance benchmarks, and type of car (performance oriented coupe), make them competitors and people cross shop them. I did, and I know a handful of others who did the same. It boiled down to a used c6, a nismo 370z and an optioned mustang GT for me - and I know others who've cross shopped them as well.
iirc - v6 mustangs start around 21 and go up to about 32k depending on options. GT's start at 30 and go up to about 40k depending on options. if people are looking at special models like boss, shelby, roush etc.. they are no longer cross shopping the Z. price points irrelevant, the v6 and GT's are their bread and butter sales and they are comparables.
I'm not stating they are identical, but their core values are very similar and once people have narrowed down what they want (RWD, performance focused, 300+ hp, coupe), both cars are on their list unless they are close minded/have a brand preference.
many people cross shop mustangs and 370z's. I fail to see how the rear suspension setup would make them non comparable, please enlighten me.
they are both performance based coupes. don't let the backseat fool you, full sized adults are not fitting back there comfortably, and they can't seat 5. in all actuality it's a two seater with a bit more utility than the Z. you can toss something behind your seat for storage, or you can carry a third / 4th person in a pinch, but they aren't going to be happy.
the price points, performance benchmarks, and type of car (performance oriented coupe), make them competitors and people cross shop them. I did, and I know a handful of others who did the same. It boiled down to a used c6, a nismo 370z and an optioned mustang GT for me - and I know others who've cross shopped them as well.
iirc - v6 mustangs start around 21 and go up to about 32k depending on options. GT's start at 30 and go up to about 40k depending on options. if people are looking at special models like boss, shelby, roush etc.. they are no longer cross shopping the Z. price points irrelevant, the v6 and GT's are their bread and butter sales and they are comparables.
I'm not stating they are identical, but their core values are very similar and once people have narrowed down what they want (RWD, performance focused, 300+ hp, coupe), both cars are on their list unless they are close minded/have a brand preference.
07-27-2012, 12:06 PM
#26
you mention one of your points as the higher tier models going into the 60s, then go on to talk about vettes being close, aside from pricing? the only mustangs that aren't really comparable / cross shopped with the Z are special models, and people wouldn't really be cross shopping the Z with them (boss/boss ls, shelbys, roush, saleen etc)
many people cross shop mustangs and 370z's. I fail to see how the rear suspension setup would make them non comparable, please enlighten me.
they are both performance based coupes. don't let the backseat fool you, full sized adults are not fitting back there comfortably, and they can't seat 5. in all actuality it's a two seater with a bit more utility than the Z. you can toss something behind your seat for storage, or you can carry a third / 4th person in a pinch, but they aren't going to be happy.
the price points, performance benchmarks, and type of car (performance oriented coupe), make them competitors and people cross shop them. I did, and I know a handful of others who did the same. It boiled down to a used c6, a nismo 370z and an optioned mustang GT for me - and I know others who've cross shopped them as well.
iirc - v6 mustangs start around 21 and go up to about 32k depending on options. GT's start at 30 and go up to about 40k depending on options. if people are looking at special models like boss, shelby, roush etc.. they are no longer cross shopping the Z. price points irrelevant, the v6 and GT's are their bread and butter sales and they are comparables.
I'm not stating they are identical, but their core values are very similar and once people have narrowed down what they want (RWD, performance focused, 300+ hp, coupe), both cars are on their list unless they are close minded/have a brand preference.
many people cross shop mustangs and 370z's. I fail to see how the rear suspension setup would make them non comparable, please enlighten me.
they are both performance based coupes. don't let the backseat fool you, full sized adults are not fitting back there comfortably, and they can't seat 5. in all actuality it's a two seater with a bit more utility than the Z. you can toss something behind your seat for storage, or you can carry a third / 4th person in a pinch, but they aren't going to be happy.
the price points, performance benchmarks, and type of car (performance oriented coupe), make them competitors and people cross shop them. I did, and I know a handful of others who did the same. It boiled down to a used c6, a nismo 370z and an optioned mustang GT for me - and I know others who've cross shopped them as well.
iirc - v6 mustangs start around 21 and go up to about 32k depending on options. GT's start at 30 and go up to about 40k depending on options. if people are looking at special models like boss, shelby, roush etc.. they are no longer cross shopping the Z. price points irrelevant, the v6 and GT's are their bread and butter sales and they are comparables.
I'm not stating they are identical, but their core values are very similar and once people have narrowed down what they want (RWD, performance focused, 300+ hp, coupe), both cars are on their list unless they are close minded/have a brand preference.
07-27-2012, 07:32 PM
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Solid Axle, Room for 5 and top model maxing out in the $60's... maybe a couple models are comparable but in reality there no where near the same in anything. A Vette and a Z have more in common pricing aside. I'm not hating BTW as I love Mustangs but the caparison sounds like something that was written in a Car & Driver more than real life.
07-29-2012, 08:23 PM
#28
I see Zs all the time now.. I hate it.. i see them almost as much as mustangs, no exaggeration.. my dad has a grabber blue '11 5.0... It's extremely sick, I love EVERYTHING about it, especially the interior. Makes me really consider getting an 05-09 generation gt
12-22-2012, 08:32 AM
#29
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LOL 05-09 GT's are slow as dog ****....
Get a revised 5.0 and don't look back, yes they are fast.
Pros:
Fast.
Cons:
Mustang.
12-22-2012, 08:46 AM
#30
And 05-09 GTs are not slow. Little bit of work and it goes. Relatively easy to boost. Decent mod response. And I love the interior. Clean and simple.
12-22-2012, 02:18 PM
#31
im suprised some would say the new 5.0 doesn't handle well, i think it was either motor trend or car and driver that tested the new stang against the v8 m3 and it did quite well in the handling dept. I don't think i would ever get a mustang but i def give the car its deserved props.
12-22-2012, 04:39 PM
#32
I also give the new mustang props for going toe to toe vs the m3 e92, but at the end of the day you will find me in a Z, I can't explain it but the feel is outstanding, and honestly a stock Z isn't light years behind the new 5.0, watch a few youtube videos of bone stock 370 sport vs 5.0 w/ brembos, it's a pretty close drive, mustang pulls away a little on the straights but that's about it, at no point is it a "complete destruction"
I care to disagree with the civic - corvette analogy. (The Z is not a civic and the mustang is not a corvette!!!) the performance gap is much closer.
I care to disagree with the civic - corvette analogy. (The Z is not a civic and the mustang is not a corvette!!!) the performance gap is much closer.
12-22-2012, 08:54 PM
#33
honestly I feel like the Z is a better driver's car too. the mustang is larger and heavier and higher up, it doesn't 'feel' as sporty, but it can hang with it in the handling department.
one thing to keep in mind - with a simple intake and tune, my 5.0 is making 400 whp. if additional power is something you'll be after, it's hard to extract more out of the Z. how much power do you really need on the street though? we're talking about being able to slowly pull away from the Z. both are plenty quick and faster than most cars on the road.
one thing to keep in mind - with a simple intake and tune, my 5.0 is making 400 whp. if additional power is something you'll be after, it's hard to extract more out of the Z. how much power do you really need on the street though? we're talking about being able to slowly pull away from the Z. both are plenty quick and faster than most cars on the road.
12-23-2012, 07:52 AM
#34
honestly I feel like the Z is a better driver's car too. the mustang is larger and heavier and higher up, it doesn't 'feel' as sporty, but it can hang with it in the handling department.
one thing to keep in mind - with a simple intake and tune, my 5.0 is making 400 whp. if additional power is something you'll be after, it's hard to extract more out of the Z. how much power do you really need on the street though? we're talking about being able to slowly pull away from the Z. both are plenty quick and faster than most cars on the road.
one thing to keep in mind - with a simple intake and tune, my 5.0 is making 400 whp. if additional power is something you'll be after, it's hard to extract more out of the Z. how much power do you really need on the street though? we're talking about being able to slowly pull away from the Z. both are plenty quick and faster than most cars on the road.
12-23-2012, 08:23 AM
#35
I was never really a fan until I bought one and let me tell you, the new 5.0's are whole lot of fun. I just threw new wheels on and alleviated some of the monster truck gap with springs. My car is a 2013 GT premium and the recaro leather seats I had added are fking awesome. I wish there wasn't so many mustangs on the road (damn v6's are everywhere) but it is what it is. I'm past the point of caring what other people think and just wanted a decently priced sports car and I got it. However, I think the 370z is a kickass car as well but the the design and lack of a backseat (can't wait until my kid is old enough so I can get him his own recaro babyseat, LULZ) were deal breakers for me.
12-27-2012, 08:40 AM
#37
im suprised some would say the new 5.0 doesn't handle well, i think it was either motor trend or car and driver that tested the new stang against the v8 m3 and it did quite well in the handling dept. I don't think i would ever get a mustang but i def give the car its deserved props.
I will say that the acceleration was effortless and the induction noise from that V8 is the sexiest car sound I've ever heard.
I'd love to test a 5.0. Maybe they've addressed some of the suspension issues. Nothing you can do about that live axle though. Otherwise, awesome car for sure.
12-27-2012, 09:16 AM
#38
im suprised some would say the new 5.0 doesn't handle well, i think it was either motor trend or car and driver that tested the new stang against the v8 m3 and it did quite well in the handling dept. I don't think i would ever get a mustang but i def give the car its deserved props.
12-27-2012, 09:48 AM
#39
This is true. I have that issue, but I believe that comparison was on the track. I think real world handling would be a different story. A corner with bumps really turns the mustang into a no-go. I review cars as a hobby and I tested a 4.6 GT with manual transmission. It did not have the wheel upgrades. It was just miserable. I took it on a bumpy back-road and was really sorry I did. I thought I'd have at least a little fun with it, but I almost wet myself within the first few corners and had to resort to driving like Grandma the rest of the way.
I will say that the acceleration was effortless and the induction noise from that V8 is the sexiest car sound I've ever heard.
I'd love to test a 5.0. Maybe they've addressed some of the suspension issues. Nothing you can do about that live axle though. Otherwise, awesome car for sure.
I will say that the acceleration was effortless and the induction noise from that V8 is the sexiest car sound I've ever heard.
I'd love to test a 5.0. Maybe they've addressed some of the suspension issues. Nothing you can do about that live axle though. Otherwise, awesome car for sure.
between the performance based cars that I've had (350z, wrx, camaro, mustang), it inspires the most confidence I've had with a car in the corners. it has very neutral handling from the factory, no real understeer, grips amazingly well and provides superb feedback (steering wheel/rear wheels). the car is very predictable and easy to drive hard. I drive around with my evo pals that are running similar horse power with less weight (and of course, awd), and they cannot shake me in the twisties. I'm talking real world too, not track.
