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Old 05-14-2009, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
So 9 hp from intake and headers? Headers gives no gains, and so do the pulleys on the HR. Different products give different gains. So you can't say the VHR gains more than the HR as there is no proof on that.
actually, headers gave him 10 whp through out the whole power band, and something like 10-15 with the intakes (don't remember exactly)

lets just wait till you get your exhaust, and we'll see where that puts you with hfc's, exhaust, and a tune. then it could be more of an apples to apples comparison
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
That does not include different gear ratios, etc. Sorry but there will be a bit more gains from a manual vs a auto than that.
ok, another 2-3, if that...
Old 05-14-2009, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cdoxp800
PFM.. I am sure it has to do the the Boxer engine
has absolutely nothing to do with that


(can't tell if you're being sarcastic, if you are, then ignore my comment)
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
actually, headers gave him 10 whp through out the whole power band, and something like 10-15 with the intakes (don't remember exactly)

lets just wait till you get your exhaust, and we'll see where that puts you with hfc's, exhaust, and a tune. then it could be more of an apples to apples comparison
I am pretty sure he gained only 5.7whp with the headers.

https://my350z.com/forum/6201412-post1.html

(I'll PM him to look at this thread and give us more info if possible.)
Old 05-15-2009, 06:26 AM
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^peak, but he gain about 10 through out most of the powerband, and thats where it counts...
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
^peak, but he gain about 10 through out most of the powerband, and thats where it counts...
We're not discussing where it counts, we're discussing MAX Wheel Horsepower.
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^^ Exactly. That is what the VHR guys are going by as well.
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well we'll just have to wait and see when you get your exhaust
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On the 370z site.......good info more mods than above and he only gained 40rwhp over stock but he did remove the muffler. I personally think something isn't right about this dyno above.

Originally Posted by Phimosis


Sorry the image quality is low. I snapped this from my iPhone.

Black line: Stock, but with rear muffler section removed.

Red line: Stillen G3 intakes, Stillen headers, Stillen Cats, Stillen exhaust.

Blue line: Stillen parts + Technosquare ECU reflash + dyno time.

In summary: $3,200 in Stillen parts gave a 26 hp increase over stock to bring it up to 328 compared to the original 302.

$700 for ECU reflash and dyno time ($500 for reflash only) gave an extra 15 whp for a total of 343 whp.

In total, it was nearly $5,000 including installation of the parts to gain 40 whp over stock. The throttle response in now extremely precise. The sound is wonderful, the over-rev to 8100 rpm is phenominal. The "Buzzy" engine vibrations that car magazines have been talking about are no worse above 7500 rpm. If anything, it smooths out a little.

One last thought: Lets pretend I gained 2 hp from removing the stock rear exhaust section. This car would have made 300 hp in this dyno. If the stock engine was 332 crank hp and it made 300 hp on this dyno, that's a conversion factor of 1.1066 for frictional loss (332/300). After mods, this car is making 343 hp on this dyno, which would be roughly 380 hp at the crank (343 x 1.1066). Not bad.

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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
On the 370z site.......good info more mods than above and he only gained 40rwhp over stock but he did remove the muffler. I personally think something isn't right about this dyno above.
Yeah, those look sketchy. The redline on a stock 370Z is 7500rpms. But it looks like his "stock" goes up to 7800rpms.
Old 05-15-2009, 01:54 PM
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LOL @ you HR guys, people put up dyno from 370's and immediately they are discredited. Wyndyn? wtf kind of dyno is that? probably on the same line as the inflated dynocom or whatever A.H. used for his dyno.

for christ's sake, you cant you people find a dynojet?
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Originally Posted by Nexx
LOL @ you HR guys, people put up dyno from 370's and immediately they are discredited. Wyndyn? wtf kind of dyno is that? probably on the same line as the inflated dynocom or whatever A.H. used for his dyno.

for christ's sake, you cant you people find a dynojet?
Us HR guys just want the cold hard facts. We don't expect you DE guys to understand.
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Originally Posted by KS0385
Us HR guys just want the cold hard facts. We don't expect you DE guys to understand.
lol, yeah my little built DE doesnt have any clue.
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anyway, here is my stock dyno vs catback (fujitsubo w/ motordyne y pipe). I gained 11whp. Now granted, on my original dyno, I had brand new air filters and this time I have about 10k on mine. Thats good for 2-3 whp MAX. It was also 10 degree's warmer today, so thats another 1-2. So under absolutely optimal conditions, I would have gained 16 whp. Your telling me if I get hfc's, I'll gain another 30 (51-5-16=30)* whp?



*51 is what the car in the OP gained
5 less is what someone said a regular hr would do (not vhr)
16 (at absolute optimal possible gain) is what i already gained with the exhaust


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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
On the 370z site.......good info more mods than above and he only gained 40rwhp over stock but he did remove the muffler. I personally think something isn't right about this dyno above.
the frictional loss is quite low... too low. but the gain looks possible (considering that emission control is the biggest restriction right now)
than again... AFR and timing plays an important part.
if you go "all out" is possible, but than you risk pinging any time the conditions aren't perfect, the fuel isn't the best quality and the engine and the oil will overheat quick.

that's it. there is no magic.
out of the factory engines are tuned in a really safe way to survive any possible condition they'll meet and take in account any possible production variation and tolerance.
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
anyway, here is my stock dyno vs catback (fujitsubo w/ motordyne y pipe). I gained 11whp. Now granted, on my original dyno, I had brand new air filters and this time I have about 10k on mine. Thats good for 2-3 whp MAX. It was also 10 degree's warmer today, so thats another 1-2. So under absolutely optimal conditions, I would have gained 16 whp. Your telling me if I get hfc's, I'll gain another 30 (51-5-16=30)* whp?



*51 is what the car in the OP gained
5 less is what someone said a regular hr would do (not vhr)
16 (at absolute optimal possible gain) is what i already gained with the exhaust
You're forgetting about the Tune.

Read thru this thread:

https://my350z.com/forum/vq35hr/4269...-hr-20whp.html

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Old 05-17-2009, 11:34 AM
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so you're expecting i'd gain another 30 whp with hfc's and a tune? i don't, nobody else with an hr gained 30 whp from hfc's and a tune...
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Wow warm, you have no clue what you are talking about.

With the mods added, and then you get a tune, you can easily get another 30rwhp from HFC and the tune correcting all the mods.

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Old 05-17-2009, 06:39 PM
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lol, really???


how much did you gain with your hfc's and a tune?
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
lol, really???


how much did you gain with your hfc's and a tune?
:bowrofl :


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