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Old 11-03-2005, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dchi_t
my tires are bald on the inside due to tire feathering, if i do this rotate, am i still risking a tire pop on the freeway? because the bald side will be on the outside afterwards. just wondering, thanks
bald on the inside doesnt have anything to do with feathering... Feathering is different ehn uneven tire wear like Bald on the inside and like new on the out side...

Feathering will be the tires wearing in different depth.. like this...

___-__-____-__-____-___-____

rather then wearing smooth...

--------------------------------

It depends on how bald the inside of your tires are... if you are seeing the cords or there isnt much thickness left it may not be safe to do this method...
Old 11-03-2005, 03:21 PM
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jason
sorry to be off topic, but i could'nt find the answer to this,
since the inside of my fronts are bald and need new tires, can i get a lower profile tire to slap on the front while the rears are still stock 235/50/17 w/ 31k on them? thanks
Old 11-03-2005, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dchi_t
jason
sorry to be off topic, but i could'nt find the answer to this,
since the inside of my fronts are bald and need new tires, can i get a lower profile tire to slap on the front while the rears are still stock 235/50/17 w/ 31k on them? thanks
you could... just run with VDC off...

or there is a trick...

turn the car to the ON position.. not with the motor running just on...

roll the car back 15 feet, roll the car forward 15 feet...

this should re-calibrate your VDC system...
Old 11-03-2005, 03:27 PM
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its ok, i have a base which means no vdc! thanks, i was worried about it affecting traction, speedometer, turnability, etc...
Old 11-03-2005, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dchi_t
its ok, i have a base which means no vdc! thanks, i was worried about it affecting traction, speedometer, turnability, etc...
you will be fine...

initial turn in will be a little different with the smaller size...
Old 11-24-2005, 02:13 PM
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how do you turn off vdc?
Old 01-03-2006, 06:12 PM
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I just had my tires rotated/Flipped at a Big Tires. I asked them to only flip the tires but they also flipped my wheels. Will this affect my tire life? And what does this mean for the TPS?
Old 01-04-2006, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ocdavid
I just had my tires rotated/Flipped at a Big Tires. I asked them to only flip the tires but they also flipped my wheels. Will this affect my tire life? And what does this mean for the TPS?
When they flip the tires...

Left Tire, if it is directional it will be put on the same rim but then mounted on the Right side... and vice versa...

the TPS will still work fine, will be on oposite ends (top or bottom)...

for the time I was running tire pressure sensors, i never figured out which was Right or Left, I was only worried about the front or rear... which will stay the same when doing this method of rotation...

How many miles were on your tires before doing this?
Old 01-04-2006, 12:08 AM
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I got it done at about 11K, so what they did was okay?
Old 01-04-2006, 01:27 AM
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yes, what they did is exactly what is needed to do, otherwize they would have had to unmount the wheel from the machine, put on the other one and you basicly get the same result, but you add an extra labor step...

its explained in the original post in this thread...

STEP #3 Time to put the wheels back on the car.

Since we flipped the tires they can not be put on where they were originally. The LEFT FRONT #1 will now have to be mounted on the RIGHT FRONT position. The original RIGHT FRONT #2 will be in the LEFT position.
Old 02-21-2006, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ocdavid
I just had my tires rotated/Flipped at a Big Tires. I asked them to only flip the tires but they also flipped my wheels.

What they did will only make sense if you have directional wheels, like the 300ZX Z32's. Otherwise i have no idea why they removed the wheel.
Old 05-11-2006, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason@Performance
They will still be the same front and back... But this time the Top will be on the bottom and vice versa... Not really a big deal IMHO... But it is easy to re-learn them completely at your local dealer...
Noob question, but can we dio it ouself, have the tps re-learn the changes. I think the dealer might charge an arm and leg to do this.

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Old 05-12-2006, 08:39 PM
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If you can take the tires off and put them back on,,, sure you can do it your self
Old 10-01-2006, 07:01 PM
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I have big time feathering on the insides of my front tires - eventually I am going to replace them but in the meantime - will flipping them as described in this post reduce some of the noise?

how much should this procedure cost me?

thanx
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Originally Posted by Zbigdoggy
I have big time feathering on the insides of my front tires - eventually I am going to replace them but in the meantime - will flipping them as described in this post reduce some of the noise?

how much should this procedure cost me?

thanx

The noise is caused by the feathering portion of the tire making contact with the road... By doing this, the feathering portion will be on the outer edge not making contact with the road so the noise will go away... That is until feathering starts again on the inside... but by that time, it will be time to replace the tires most likely...

It all depends on the shop... It can be done at any tire shop... They are usually cheapest when they specialize in only tires...
Old 01-06-2007, 05:26 PM
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I work at a tire shop, and not everyone has access to a tire machine. Oddly enough if you ask a tire shop to do this for you. They will be very confused
Old 01-12-2007, 10:00 PM
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damn this don't work on my brand new PS2s and I got a buttload of negative camber
Old 01-13-2007, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Cheezwiz
I work at a tire shop, and not everyone has access to a tire machine. Oddly enough if you ask a tire shop to do this for you. They will be very confused
If the tire shop you choose is confused about this, you need to go to a new tire shop. The guys I go to knew exactly what I was talking about. when I went in to do mine.

Chris
Old 02-17-2007, 12:39 PM
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It's really in the way you explain it. I have customers that can explain the simplest things in the most difficult ways.

Is it that hard to make your car right and just get alignment kits and a proper alignment? This "rotation" is a perfect method to get more life out of your symmetrical tires, but some make it sound like an excuse for ignorance. You know, the more even your tires wear, the more contact your tires are actually making. And you can still have even tire wear with negative camber. It's called toe-in, which also improves steering response.

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Old 02-20-2007, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HyperSprite
If the tire shop you choose is confused about this, you need to go to a new tire shop. The guys I go to knew exactly what I was talking about. when I went in to do mine.

Chris

which one?

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