alignment issue
07-10-2015, 04:25 PM
#1
alignment issue
All. I installed toe bolts and camber arms from spc yesterday as well as energy suspension poly mount. Im lowered on nismo struts and eibach sportlines. My previous alignment toe was in the green yet camber was -3.7. Fast forward to today camber is down to in spec at -1.5 -1.8 but toe is not in spec on the driver side. He says if he increase camber to -2 he can get toe back in spec. I thought toe bolts would correct this issue? Did i not enlargen the slot enough? The tech did rush and had me out in 15 min. Id be okay with a bit more camber but wanted to get some feedback. Heres is todays alignment sheet.
07-10-2015, 05:02 PM
#2
Check the eccentric bolt on the bucket on that side and see if it is maxed out (the bolt will be rotated to be furthest inboard of the chassis). If it isn't, then he was rushing and you should go over there and tell them to fix it.
If you can rotate the bolt/washer a full 360deg range of motion (while loose but cinched down), then you know you elongated the slot enough.
If you can rotate the bolt/washer a full 360deg range of motion (while loose but cinched down), then you know you elongated the slot enough.
Last edited by guitman32; 07-10-2015 at 11:45 PM.
07-10-2015, 05:22 PM
#3
Also, your SAI is wayy out of whack on the front drivers. That may have to do with how he took the alignment - I couldn't see how it would be that off considering the knuckle and/or pickup points would have to be very damaged or worn for such a variance.
Was the car ever impacted?
Was the car ever impacted?
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07-10-2015, 07:43 PM
#15
Yes you don't seem that low so it shouldnt be a contributor (though raising it will allow toe to be brought back to spec).
If you arent nitpicking and can live with how it drives just leave it alone. It becomes more complicated if an alignment tells you the car is fine but it still has handling irregularities.
It could be many things, the important thing is to get an alignment baseline that you can trust. There are so many things an alignment tech should be looking for in addition to just aligning. He is the one who is supposed to identify patterns that indicate additional damage/work to the shop who in turn informs the customer.
If you are really worried, take it to a collision shop that can perform the kind of diagnosis a suspected tweaked car needs.
If you arent nitpicking and can live with how it drives just leave it alone. It becomes more complicated if an alignment tells you the car is fine but it still has handling irregularities.
It could be many things, the important thing is to get an alignment baseline that you can trust. There are so many things an alignment tech should be looking for in addition to just aligning. He is the one who is supposed to identify patterns that indicate additional damage/work to the shop who in turn informs the customer.
If you are really worried, take it to a collision shop that can perform the kind of diagnosis a suspected tweaked car needs.
07-10-2015, 10:24 PM
#17
Good deal. Before you go put your car on level ground and measure the ride heights. I was looking at your pics again and the Sportlines must be on the lower end of the drop spring range because it is pretty low. If it is sagging or uneven that may contribute also. Good luck.
07-11-2015, 12:22 PM
#18
Springs are only 2k miles old. They all measured out evenly. I added the poly springmount which lowered it in the rear 3 quarter or so. Further evidence that the front brace isnt my issue as far as sai because it was dented prior to the last alignment 5/24 and sai was in spec. Could it be because i removed my nardi setup and put oem on and it may not have been centered? Its centered now and drives perfectly. As for rear toe im confused because there are folks alot lower than i who are in spec. Although im out very little i planned to remove all gap which means i cannot now because then i will be more out.
07-11-2015, 05:18 PM
#19
Has nothing to do with your steering wheel, unless you clocked the wheel wrong (missed a spline), and even then your alignment would ultimately tell you if something was awry.
Looking at your before and after it may be drop related since you did a large camber correction. Even before it was on the outer end of the range and no chassis is perfect. If it drives fine dont worry about it and if you need to flip the tires on the rear axle itll only be the cost of flipping and remounting the tires (like 15-20 a side).
SAI on alignment machines is an extrapolated value...have you ever noticed how they cycle your rack full lock to lock when aligning? That is them giving the machine data to extrapolate SAI. Unless your car was hit (which only you know), dont worry about the SAI value its prob the tech, but do get it re-aligned and report back.
Looking at your before and after it may be drop related since you did a large camber correction. Even before it was on the outer end of the range and no chassis is perfect. If it drives fine dont worry about it and if you need to flip the tires on the rear axle itll only be the cost of flipping and remounting the tires (like 15-20 a side).
SAI on alignment machines is an extrapolated value...have you ever noticed how they cycle your rack full lock to lock when aligning? That is them giving the machine data to extrapolate SAI. Unless your car was hit (which only you know), dont worry about the SAI value its prob the tech, but do get it re-aligned and report back.
Last edited by guitman32; 07-11-2015 at 05:31 PM.
