sooniie

So I'm not completely familiar with brakes and what parts you need, how they work, big brakes vs "regular" brakes? I have a 2007 nismo and idk why recent owner took off the stock brembo brakes. The car doesn't look right without it. So I'm thinking, is it completely necessary, or is it an accessory. Why do I want them? Why do I not want them? What else can I get, should I get? Recommendations. And what I need to swap out, and how much they usually cost you. And are the stock brembos big brakes?Anything I need to know, tell me, brakes for dummies 101. Thanks for the help, in advance.

terrasmak

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Stock brembo is not a BBC , but works for most race applications. Do you really need them, well it really depends on how you drive and it you plan to track the car.

MicVelo

Very quick few cents....

Brembo brakes are the top of the line as far as far as factory equipped Z33 brakes are concerned. They stop better than standard brakes and hold up to the heat generated in track/HPDE/heavy mountain running.

Does that mean you should get some? Wellllll, IMO, a Nismo without 'em is not a full Nismo. But..... there are options that don't cost that much and sometimes less.

Y'see, I trip on people asking for the prices they do for Brembo calipers. And even moreso, gotta smirk a bit when they get sold for those prices. Why? Because a 1,000 dollar set of Brembo calipers doesn't take into account all the other accompanying things that are needed to convert. Brake lines x 6, rotors x 4, pads x 8, etc. By the time you're all said and done, you still have a used Brembo setup for the same cost or more than a brand new Akebono 370Z/G37S conversion! (Available at the Nissan parts counter sort of but moreso from Concept Z or Z1).

And having owned both Brembo Z33 stock and Akebono/Nismo stock, I'll take the Akebonos any day. NOT saying the Brembos are bad.... I just think the Akes are better from a feel and modulation standpoint. Love my Brembos.... loved my Akebonos more. (And will love 'em again soon.)

So in the end, if your brakes work for your purposes, just leave 'em alone. But if you seek the originality and performance of the Brembo or Akebonos, get ready to shell out at least a grand and a half for a good set up.

sooniie

okay so here's the deal, I'm talking to some guy about his brembos which are used, he mentioned the rotors have been resurfaced but it looks like **** from sitting. Do I still want the rotors? Or just get a lower price for calipers and get new rotors? He's asking 800 for calipers and rotors. I can also provide pics of its condition if needed.

VO...

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Very good post MicVelo..

dkmura

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Understand that rotors are consumable products. They are also very heavy and absorb a lot of the heat generated by braking. If you can get a better deal by just buying the calipers, you're going to save not only on the deal, but also the shipping. Buying a set of high-quality rotors (try Centric high-carbon) locally (be sure to clean the surfaces on both sides with brake clean before mounting them) is the way to go!

MicVelo

Totally agree! ^^^

You could mic out the seller's rotors to see if you can turn them down.

Fresh rotor measurements (Brembo):

F: 30mm (28mm min. thickness)
R: 22mm (20mm min. thickness)

This said, I'd opt for new ones just to err on the side of safety.

JMII

+1 this is why I went the Akebono route. Plus the Akebonos have more surface area then the Brembos. I track my car so fade resistance was more important then looks.

However if someone sold Brembo stickers and orange paint for the Akebono calipers then I swear more people would convert.

As for the OP - getting the Brembos make sense to return the car to factory specs. For others the Akebonos route is better IMHO.

+1 to the rotor advice as well. Other the light weight 2 piece setups there is almost no difference between a brand name rotor and a Centric piece. In fact in some cases (I believe StopTech) they are in fact the same chunk of metal just in a different box.

MicVelo

StopTech IS a Centric brand.

However, the StopTech performance rotors are NOT necessarily the same as Centric blanks. Centric - with few exceptions like the high carbon units - are more OEM grade whereas they market the StopTech as the premium, performance brand. Different formulations on brake pads/rotors and BBKs (well known ST-40, ST-60 calipers) offered as well.

dboyzalter

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What brakes are on your car now? Are you sure you got a nismo? I wouldn't think a nismo owner would downgrade their brakes... Unless they are like Mic and have multiple 350z's and you rob your nismo for your 03's benefit...

And even he never thought about doing such a horrible act till I just put the thought in his head.

dboyzalter

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Have him crack the 2 bleeder bolts for you before he ships them, you could be buying a big pain in your ***.

MyZ32TT

I checked his vin and he does have a nismo. Most likely the last owner needed cash and started trading plus cash his stuff off his nismo for non-nismo stock parts.

MicVelo

Hmmmmmmm.... guess I could order a set of Brembo GTs for the Niz.

And I ACTUALLY DID think of that before....

Then the bourbon wore off and I fell asleep.

Cux350z

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Oh Terra...

MicVelo

Oh, lawdy, this thread is headed South. Watch out you Texas guys, it's headed your way on downwards towards Meh-he-ko.

AdvanZ33

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Pictures of your Nismo OP?

Edit: Never mind, I found your other post https://my350z.com/forum/new-owners/...l#post10740069

I hope you bought that car for dirt cheap because it really seems like the "upgrades" were paid for by insurance money.

Do you still have OEM dust shields on your brakes? If so, are they considerably larger than the rotors you have on there now?

dcains

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This isn't the first "stripped" Nosmo spoken about on this forum. There was one missing its brakes, wheels, suspension, and even head and taillight a a while back. Not to mention a few missing their number plates.

I've got a bunch of OEM Nismo parts on my '08 base, but they came from a few wrecked cars.

terrasmak

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Do you think a stock Brembo kit is equal to a BBC. I'll take my brakes over OE Brembo any day of the week.

HRMoneyPit

I love my Akebono after I finally got them bleed

Cux350z

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I know what a BBK is...big brake kit.




What is a BBC?