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Old 07-15-2006, 09:16 AM   #1
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Hello all, Im looking to buy a 2006 Touring MT either in red or white. I need a to know how much ODT price. Thanks.
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ill sell you any z i have in stock for 200 over cost if you want to make a trip to richmond and get rid of the haggle for you
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For a out-the-door estimate use the calculator at carmax.com.
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I bought an 06 Touring 2 months ago in IL. I paid a bit over $31,000 plus tax,which varies from state to state.It was $2500 off sticker.
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I have a grand touring 06 redline for sale. It has 2000 miles on it if you are interested I will send pictures asking 34,000. The car has the 19 in wheel in the back and the 18 in the front. THe only mods is a jwt pop charger.
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For a out-the-door estimate use the calculator at carmax.com.

The reason why I ask is because I want to know the average of people paying for an 06 Touring 350z. This forum has "been" helpful so far what a good start. Thanks.
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Spoiled, no one can give you the price with any amount of accuracy since everyone's options, local taxes, etc. are completely different. The best thing for you to do is use an online calculator like the one David mentioned, or off www.edmunds.com to get the exact price for your configured car. They will also give you the TMV (True Market Value) which is the avg price people have paid nationwide for the exact same car. You will never be able to estimate that here.
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The reason why I ask is because I want to know the average of people paying for an 06 Touring 350z. This forum has "been" helpful so far what a good start. Thanks.
Find a car at carmax similar to the one that you want. Use the carmax price. Then use the calculator for a out-the-door estimate.
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i have a daytona blue auto in stock $34,635 msrp ... $31,932 invoice..
$32132 sale price

thats 200 over invoice.... just to give you an idea of a fair offer to give
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i believe this one is near you?

Order #: F582719

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2006 Z{ TOURING 2DR 6-SPD

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Invoice MSRP
BASE $30,011 $32,450

AKP $78 $110
ALUM KICK PLATE

CGO $53 $80
CARGO CONV PKG

FLO $64 $90
FLOOR MATS

SGD $108 $140
SPLASH GUARDS

TMA $54 $70
TRUNK MAT (COUPE)

50S $0 $0
50 STATE EMISSION

Freight Charge $605 $605


Total $30,973 $33,545


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Ordered On: 04/03/2006 Production Month: 04/2006
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Rail Receive Date: Status: DLR
Wholesale Date: 06/20/2006
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I went to the dealership yesterday and they want 700 over invoice. I'll go somewhere else.
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your problem is going to be you are limiting yourself with color... open yourself up and you may get the price you are looking for... but 700 over invoice is a more than fair offer ... if you want white then you may want to consider it.... there isnt alot of white out there
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It's the end of the year soon. End of last quarter people in so cal were getting below invoice if they bargained well. With 2007 possibly having some new upgrades, I'm waiting till end of next month or Sept. Get BELOW invoice. The best deals I heard of was in the 25-26 range otd for base models.

I'm pretty willing to search most of the mid atlantic area and NC. My goal silver base otd under 26, or enth 27ish.

Also try calling fleet manager or internet sale first.

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It's the end of the year soon. End of last quarter people in so cal were getting below invoice if they bargained well. With 2007 possibly having some new upgrades, I'm waiting till end of next month or Sept. Get BELOW invoice. The best deals I heard of was in the 25-26 range otd for base models.

that works well sometimes although i doubt you are getting anything under invoice unless they put a rebate on the car like they did last year....

there is one problem with your suggestion to him though. he is wanting specific colors and the longer you wait the less likely you are to get the color and model you want... and with only 11 in the mid atlantic region in his 2 colors. your advice will most likely cost him the car that he wants
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true if he wants very specific combo it's a little gamble, although, white may be harder to move? I'll pitch an offer your way if you're willing in a month or so. I've got nutty deals on last day of the month some times. Ex 15K off sticker on a 44K ford expedition.
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I simply don't get why people talk about dollar amounts above invoice as a gauge of how good a deal is. That is beyond ludicrous! Why? 'Coz $500 above invoice for a bare bones base is a completely different thing than $500 above invoice of a fully-optioned Grand Touring, since the two MSRPs are miles apart. Think about it, it's simple common sense!

Percentages ONLY. Dollar amounts will only serve to prevent you from judging how good the deal is. A simple rule-of-thumb, by the way, is to start bargaining at 0.5% or 1% above invoice and move up from there. No one should have to pay more than 3% above invoice, whether the model year has just dawned, or is about to end. If you have to, you don't know how to bargain; it's that simple.
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I simply don't get why people talk about dollar amounts above invoice as a gauge of how good a deal is. That is beyond ludicrous! Why? 'Coz $500 above invoice for a bare bones base is a completely different thing than $500 above invoice of a fully-optioned Grand Touring, since the two MSRPs are miles apart. Think about it, it's simple common sense!

Percentages ONLY. Dollar amounts will only serve to prevent you from judging how good the deal is. A simple rule-of-thumb, by the way, is to start bargaining at 0.5% or 1% above invoice and move up from there. No one should have to pay more than 3% above invoice, whether the model year has just dawned, or is about to end. If you have to, you don't know how to bargain; it's that simple.

do you know what percentage a vehicle has between invoice and msrp? i doubt it.... its ludicris to say its ludicris to buy at a dollar amount above msrp... you read edmunds buying tips too much.... and buying 200 over cost is still buying 200 over cost. no matter how you slice it or dice it....with your logic its like saying its ok to pay 360-1000 dollars over cost on a touring and then on a base model 240-750 dollars over cost... so because the touring costs more the consumer should pay more over cost? come on over and buy a gt model from me...it boils down to HOW MUCH THE DEALER PROFITS... dosent matter if the car has an invoice of 10k or 50k. 200-400 over cost is fair on any of them.
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I got my car for nearly below invoice easily. I got an enthusiast. If you know what you want..and you know how to bargain...you can get a deal that you can be satisfied with.
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how do you get a car for nearly below invoice? it is one or the other...
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do you know what percentage a vehicle has between invoice and msrp? i doubt it.... its ludicris to say its ludicris to buy at a dollar amount above msrp... you read edmunds buying tips too much.... and buying 200 over cost is still buying 200 over cost. no matter how you slice it or dice it....with your logic its like saying its ok to pay 360-1000 dollars over cost on a touring and then on a base model 240-750 dollars over cost... so because the touring costs more the consumer should pay more over cost? come on over and buy a gt model from me...it boils down to HOW MUCH THE DEALER PROFITS... dosent matter if the car has an invoice of 10k or 50k. 200-400 over cost is fair on any of them.
Looks like you simply didn't get my point, did you John? It wasn't targeted at you, by the way; just at anyone and everyone who wants to compare dollar amounts above invoice to figure out how great a deal is. When two cars rarely ever cost the same after options are taken into consideration, how can we possibly use the same dollar amount "profit" as an equalizer. That's why the concept of percentages was invented in mathematics. Of course you are right, it is about how much the dealer makes or the consumer saves, and OF COURSE they would have to pay more above invoice for a GT vs. Base; it cost a helluva lot more doesn't it? Then how on earth does it make sense to say that $200 above invoice is exactly that...$200 above invoice. When a dealer pays more for a car, how can one expect them to make the same profit they do on a car that costs half as much? By your logic, someone buying a Sentra for $200 above invoice is no different than someone buying a GT Z for $200 over invoice. That is insane!

Besides, even if it were the same for the dealer, it certainly isn't for the customer, is it? We are trying to compare apples to apples, and since car prices vary so much among trim levels, the only way we can get all the apples together is by figuring out how one profit amount relates to another. Tell me how, from a consumer's standpoint, that is possible without using a percentage?

As for the Edmunds comment, I am actually very glad that I read their tips and those from everywhere else I can possibly find. After all, hadn't it been for Edmunds, I would never have known of the little thing known as the dealer holdback and never could have ordered my GT Z for invoice back in January. My dealer's first offer was $1000 below MSRP followed by "that is the deal of the century, as you can see." I smiled and told him that 6% above invoice, which that came to, couldn't even be the deal of the minute, let alone the century. Since it was a special order, the moment I mentioned the 2% holdback he would pocket from my sale, his shoulders sagged and he immediately accepted my offer for at-invoice price. Both parties were happy, and that's the point.

So although dealers can never desire well-informed customers, I love being one, because the ones that walk into a dealership and haggle based on dollar amounts and monthly payments are the ones that get taken to the cleaners.

What it comes down to is that we are both talking about the same thing from two totally different perspectives; buyer's vs. seller's,. That's why my way of looking at prices is different than yours. I have a graduate degree in business and unless I compare equals, I know I am comparing nothing at all that makes any business sense for a buyer.
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