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I got my bottle of NXT Generation Tech Wax direct from Meguiars online - $20 shipped. I finally got around to using it. First thing I did was wash my car real well with Dawn. Then, I cleaned the paint with Meguiars Cleaner (not the cleaner / wax, just the straight up paint cleaner.)
Those who saw an earlier thread about my having swirls under certain light - this was my hopeful solution.
I must say, this stuff is simply amazing. I applied it to the entire car, and then let it "cure". The bottle says 15 minutes, but I gave it 45 since 1) it was a little colder in my garage 2) I had to eat 3) Curb Your Entusiasm was on.
45 minutes seems like the right amount. It came off EXTREMELY easy with a Cosco Microfibre towel. And there was absolutely no streaking. And ALL my swirls and slight paint imperfections are gone. The car looks like a mirror. Zaino guys, you had better rethink paying $80+ for your coctail of steps. This stuff is amazing.
And here is an EXTREMELY close up shot of the paint. The camera is about 3 inches away. The white streaks are the overhead lighting being reflected. None of these shots used a flash.
That first shot is amazing. It's hard to get a mirror effect like that on a light colored car. If it proves to be durable, I'll be trying some this spring. Reports on the Autopia detailing forum state that it looks even better after a day or two.
its not hard to get a mirror effect..the blue is one of the easiests cars to get it on..nice job on the detailing
just proves my former philosophy...almost all waxes will give you a shine..and a nice one too...but now it comes down to what is safe for the car and what wax is OK to apply over and over....thats the only reason i switched to zaino..but my shines with meguiars were nice too
The main thing I was so happy about was the removal of the swirls and ease of application. Its been about 10 hours and the paint is starting to deepen. It really does seem to be getting better with time.
Originally posted by havabooz ...but now it comes down to what is safe for the car and what wax is OK to apply over and over....
As far as I know NXT has no abrasives (it's not a one step cleaner wax) so it should be as safe as Zaino to apply repeatedly. Do you have any information to the contrary?
Originally posted by MrGraphics I got my bottle of NXT Generation Tech Wax....But I'll let the pics do the rest of the talking.
VERY impressive. That looks very nice.
I've heard of Meguiars, of course. I've never heard of NXT. Is it a wax? That's one of the main reasons I'm so sold on Zaino - a wax will melt right off in the summer sun.
It also looks like it behaved very well on the rubber. That's a second reason why I avoid true waxes. All I have ever used left nasty semi-permanent white marks on all the rubber they touched. With Zaino I go over the rubber, glass and all.
Its not a "wax" - its a synthetic polymer - just like Zaino is. Marketing is probably using the term wax because this is a mass marketed product, and most people get confused by terms such as wax, polish, polymer, etc.
wow... your DB looks great!! close pics look really nice. just keep us posted on the durability (which counts the most) of the product.
one question... i also have that Meguiars paint cleaner (step 1)... did you apply it by hand? I have some swirls i'd like to take care off and was wondering if its a good product
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The swirls will come back if you didn't use a buffer. Any of these cleaners/waxes that are applied by hand only fill in swirls. Trust me, I have a black car.
You need to use a random orbital buffer to actually remove swirls. Porter Cable 7424. It was designed by God himself and passed on to mere detailing mortals like us atop Mt. Sinai.
Well, of course it rained the next day after I did all that work (forcast said it be clear.) But even after driving around, the car still looked like I just cleaned it.
The cleaner seemed pretty good. Although a random orbital probably would have gotten it smoother. But I was always shy about using that type of thing. I'll just keep waxing and keeping the visuals of the imperfections at bay.
I'll post on durability in a month. I did my GF car - a 95 Accord at the same time without doing any surface prep (just washed it with Dawn) so we'll see if there is a significant difference after a while too.
Originally posted by 350zdanny The swirls will come back if you didn't use a buffer. Any of these cleaners/waxes that are applied by hand only fill in swirls. Trust me, I have a black car.
You need to use a random orbital buffer to actually remove swirls. Porter Cable 7424. It was designed by God himself and passed on to mere detailing mortals like us atop Mt. Sinai.
Yeah, I hate to have to concur here, but Danny is 100% accurate with the above statement. It's simply NOT possible to remove swirls without the use of a random orbital polisher, and some sort of abrasive polish. Your swirls will reappear after some time passes and a few washes. But if you're cool with that, then all is well.
PCs are safe though, they don't spin fast enough really to risk damaging your paint.
Originally posted by Chris S27 It's simply NOT possible to remove swirls without the use of a random orbital polisher, and some sort of abrasive polish.
While these statements are technically true, the truth is somewhat irrelevant now that we can layer polymers onto the paint. If you can put a few layers of a polymer on that fills the swirls and makes them invisible, and then continue to layer the polymer and re-apply it frequently enough (remember it doesn't melt off like wax will) then aren't you, in effect, removing the swirls?
Originally posted by bhobson333 While these statements are technically true, the truth is somewhat irrelevant now that we can layer polymers onto the paint. If you can put a few layers of a polymer on that fills the swirls and makes them invisible, and then continue to layer the polymer and re-apply it frequently enough (remember it doesn't melt off like wax will) then aren't you, in effect, removing the swirls?
Uhhh no.... You ARE, in effect, covering up the swirls. Removal of swirls typically implies that once the wax is gone, the swirl marks will NOT be visible. When you apply a polish with a Porter Cable, that polish is broken down, and the swirls are removed. You can then WASH the car with dawn or something similar, and you WILL not see swirls.
To each their own, I'm not saying filling them in with products like NXT is bad or wrong, I'm simply saying it's NOT removing them. They'll reappear later on at some point, and there will probably be more of them by that time. I'm a detailing fanatic...filling in swirls just doesn't do it for me.
If I really look for them, and I park my car under those yellow supermarket lights, I can still see faint scratches. But I am probably not going to do anything about them yet since the car is under a year old still.
Maybe after 2 years I'll random orbiter the paint. Its just so thin and fragile, I'm afraid that if I do it all the time, I won't have any clearcoat left in 3 years.
Originally posted by Chris S27 Uhhh no.... You ARE, in effect, covering up the swirls. I'm a detailing fanatic...filling in swirls just doesn't do it for me.
Yeah, I understand, I was just tweaking you a little. Not everybody has a Porter Cable and the mad desire to use it.