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Old 10-28-2009, 01:55 PM   #1
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Old 10-28-2009, 02:14 PM   #2
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the only RIM the Iphone is catching is the butt hole's of their owners when they get kicked by Blackberry's
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The fact that RIM has kept it's market share throughout the iPhone revolution says big things about the brand. Nearly every other phone manufacturer has seen massive declines.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:16 PM   #5
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Maybe because RIM has dominated the coporate industry, it's taking longer for Apple to move in.
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the iphone has serious corporate issues that need to be addressed before it'll takeover large corporate holdings.
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Your such a fanboy sometimes I wonder if your rimming someone from RIMS for a free phone. Yet your ridiculously misinformed comments on technology are hilarious and entertaining nonetheless. I guess it's hard for you to comprehend data in that article

The only reason the iphone won't/hasn't caught onto the corporate market is cause RIM's already has built a solid stranglehold on it going back atleast 10 years. The iphone is way too much of a media entertainment phone for the likes of corporate use. Think of it this way: it's like AMD trying to catch or surpass Intel on corporate sales, gonna come close at some point but not going to happen.

On the positive, healthy competition in technology equates to more features, cheaper prices for consumers so we all benefit.
what misinformed comment?

seem like you took a cheap shot at me and then went on to explain why the IPhone doesn't compare with the Blackberry
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On the corporate side, people will stay with RIM because they cater to this market. iPhone is meant for something else which is a tech savvy power consumer. Iphone has been so successful that some of that has spilled over to the corporate side but in the end, it probably will not take over because it's virtually impossible to cater perfectly to both consumer groups. Ever hear a saying: jack of all trades, master of none? RIM has adopted the master approach and it has tried to gain market share in the non-corporate segment by creating a separate phone for this: the storm. So far, apple has 1 phone which means they can't do the same with a corporate space. If they really push in to that space, they'll probably loose share in the other segment. Poster child for this is win mobile. It has tried to do both and it's failing. All major carriers are moving away from it right now. Unless win mobile 7 is a total slam dunk, that OS is on the ropes right now.

Another thing to note is that up to this point, iPhone hasn't had much competition so far. Every phone that has taken aim up to this point at the iPhone has done so by trying to play catch up with features that iPhone already has today, running on a network that is inferior to AT&T's, recipe for FAIL. Palm is a good example of this. This is about to change. Droid is a real threat: it boasts a solid OS with major 3rd party software capabiliteis, has superior hardware specs, introduces features that surpass iPhone's and has a superior network behind. Apple may actually have to start innovating again. If I were apple, I'd start working on a corporate iPhone, meant for that segment. They have the name and momentum. That would allow the iPhone to focus on what it does best and let Apple really go after RIM. Just my opinion
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Every phone that has taken aim up to this point at the iPhone has done so by trying to play catch up with features that iPhone already has today, running on a network that is inferior to AT&T's, recipe for FAIL. This is about to change. Droid is a real threat: it boasts a solid OS with major 3rd party software capabiliteis, has superior hardware specs, introduces features that surpass iPhone's and has a superior network behind. Apple may actually have to start innovating again. Bad for them, good for us consumers
here is what confuses me with the storm vs iphone... i've seen many reviews on why the iphone was better and i see stuff like 'sexiness' and i turned the review off..

the only edge the Iphone has on the Storm is the amount of Apps and thats because the Storm is just approaching its 1st full year of production and already it has quite a good amount of apps available.. I will admit the OS was really buggy when it first came out, however this current 5.0 OS makes the phone incredible..

Not sure how the Storm was playing catch up, when the IPhone 3GS which came out after the storm added alot of features that the storm already had prior and the IPhone still falls short of other features the storm has, however IPhone owners will swear to you the features are useless, like the features the Storm had they deemed useless prior till they were finally on the IPhone.

People complained about the Storm's lack of WiFi and screen play as a major fail, but here comes the second version of the Storm which fixed both those 'issues' (personally i never had a problem with).. so i'm curious as to what excuses will arise with the Storm 2 vs IPhone 3GS.. because feature for feature the Storm 1 was a better phone than the IPhone 3G
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here is what confuses me with the storm vs iphone... i've seen many reviews on why the iphone was better and i see stuff like 'sexiness' and i turned the review off..

the only edge the Iphone has on the Storm is the amount of Apps and thats because the Storm is just approaching its 1st full year of production and already it has quite a good amount of apps available.. I will admit the OS was really buggy when it first came out, however this current 5.0 OS makes the phone incredible..

Not sure how the Storm was playing catch up, when the IPhone 3GS which came out after the storm added alot of features that the storm already had prior and the IPhone still falls short of other features the storm has, however IPhone owners will swear to you the features are useless, like the features the Storm had they deemed useless prior till they were finally on the IPhone.

People complained about the Storm's lack of WiFi and screen play as a major fail, but here comes the second version of the Storm which fixed both those 'issues' (personally i never had a problem with).. so i'm curious as to what excuses will arise with the Storm 2 vs IPhone 3GS.. because feature for feature the Storm 1 was a better phone than the IPhone 3G
Interesting. As you pointed out, the original storm had a lot of bugs and I think that really hurt its image. Generally, consumers want phones to work like appliances where the software is just an afterthought and it should just work. The 1st storm failed to do that and I think lack of wifi was a big one. A friend of mine still has the first storm and I do recall him complaining about the phone from time to time and he's a very savvy tech user. Another thing that I think storm is missing is size. I think it needs to be bigger and it's obvious that people actually do not mind that (iPhone). It gives you more real estate to work with and it makes the touch screen more usable especially if you want to use your thumbs for anything.

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Interesting. As you pointed out, the original storm had a lot of bugs and I think that really hurt its image. Generally, consumers want phones to work like appliances where the software is just an afterthought and it should just work. The 1st storm failed to do that and I think lack of wifi was a big one. A friend of mine still has the first storm and I do recall him complaining about the phone from time to time and he's a very savvy tech user. Another thing that I think storm is missing is size. I think it needs to be bigger and it's obvious that people actually do not mind that (iPhone). It gives you more real estate to work with and it makes the touch screen more usable especially if you want to use your thumbs for anything.

EDIT: ^^^ my post 666....whhhooooo hahahahaha.....time to play some death metal
I know a lot of people jumped ship on the first Storm..and i know alot of people who stayed loyal.. those that stayed loyal are extremely happy campers now.. this 5.0 OS is amazing
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The iphone is a mass marketed toy. I couldn't care less about sales numbers, doesn't prove sh!t in terms of utility or superiority. I'll give it apple though, their marketing an PR are top notch and have convinced alot of idiots that they should buy a internet reliant phone on a network that can't sustain it's customer base.
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Tell that to the millions of highly skilled business people using it in their everyday life to manage their business. Seriously, dumbest post on the thread yet. You must not have a clue what the capabilities of the iPhone are.
i wouldn't have used the term idiots.. oh btw.. i work with alot of highly skilled business people.. they don't know d!ck about cell phones.. they want the best of the best to bring to clients to show off and brag about.. half of them have no idea how to work their blackberry or iphone's.. So lets not based a phone's business abilities based on its userbase.. more over the majority of IPhone owners are sheep.. they both it to compensate or to have the ability to show off to people.. i would say about 20% of their userbase actually bought it because its a pretty damn good phone
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Tell that to the millions of highly skilled business people using it in their everyday life to manage their business. Seriously, dumbest post on the thread yet. You must not have a clue what the capabilities of the iPhone are.
What does business skills have to do with a phone or knowing which one to use or buy? I'd really like to know the actual numbers of how many are legitimately using the phone for business purposes as opposed to as a toy (and not a generalized non sense figure you made up).
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I use both. I use the blackberry for day to day business because i have to and I use the iPhone for EVERYTHING else.
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Because millions of people can't run billion dollar companies using toys that's why. There are tons of people using their iPhones for business purposes....
THAT is the marketing hurdle for Apple. It is just that others have been entrenched there from the start.

Apple has already won the day to day casual 3g user. They need to go after the business user. It is seen as a "fun" phone not a "business tool". (I'm not commenting on the truth of it, just the perception).
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Because millions of people can't run billion dollar companies using toys that's why. There are tons of people using their iPhones for business purposes....I mean seriously, are you joking??? It has exchange sync so I use it for email and calendar management, I attend virtual meetings using WebEx, I can access customer data using Salesforce.com app, I can chat and collaborate with co-workers using secure Jabber.....the list of business apps is huge and many companies use them for business purposes....they are used for those purposes at my company (70k employees) and one of my buddies leads the support team for another company around here and the iPhone is their standard issue Smartphone.
Most people at the enterprise level don't have open access to the exchange OWA to allow sync to their iphone, I'd have to VPN in to sync my phone. BB Enterprise server > iphone integration for the time being.
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