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Old 01-12-2014, 10:17 PM
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1. Pat Bateman ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.150@107.62mph

2. Veetec --------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.157@105.32mph

3. Peak350 -------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.239@105.67mph

4. Warmmilk ------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.412@104.04mph

5. Bkennedy ------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.476@102.90mph


Swear I been arguing with people about how HRs can beat an LS1 stock for stock, don't want to post inaccurate information. It is to my beliefs that they normally run mid 13s
Old 01-13-2014, 02:14 AM
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I am not certain of the answer. Post your time slip and lets see how you are doing.
Old 01-13-2014, 07:25 AM
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Go check the Top 25 1/4 mile section
Old 01-13-2014, 08:11 AM
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The top times are all listed in the drag racing section and are all verified with time slips and sometimes video. They are broken out by type of modification.

Those drivers are some of the best on the forum. A well driven HR definitely has a chance of keeping up and beating certain LS1 cars (stock for stock). The norm for HR's is mid 13's. Low 13's have been achieved by some skilled drivers.

When you get into bolt-on modifications then it becomes an uphill battle for the HR's to keep up.

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Old 01-13-2014, 02:24 PM
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I understand after modifications it's a whole new story. However lining the two up on the highway I believe the HR has advantages. No having to have launch, etc. Basically what im saying is when you roll race an HR, are you racing a 13.1 second car or a 13.5 second car ?
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Yes. Hundreds of timeslips and some videos.
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Originally Posted by G35HR
I understand after modifications it's a whole new story. However lining the two up on the highway I believe the HR has advantages. No having to have launch, etc. Basically what im saying is when you roll race an HR, are you racing a 13.1 second car or a 13.5 second car ?
Thanks for your interest in drag racing. The top-25 lists in the drag racing forum do not represent "average." These are top drivers with lots of experience under idea conditions. Average is somewhere off the list. The DE versus HR debate is 7 years old. Unfortunately the top-25 DE list and the top-25 HR list are not comparable: Different drivers - different conditions.

I am well aware of the "should win" pecking order. The 370Z should win the 350Z HR. The HR should win the DE. As an experienced drag racer "should win" gets you jack at the drag strip. Should win bragging rights are for fan boys.

Here is my suggestion. Go to the drag strip and practice. Have fun. Im not interested in what the car can do. I am interested in what you can do with the car.
Old 01-19-2014, 11:42 AM
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so i thought the 06 rev up was 300 hp, only 6 down from the HR. I am doubting that there is a significant difference in quarter mile times.
I have an 06 rev up, with no oil consumption. The thing rips (for a v6), i have yet to take it down the track, but will once it open back up this year.
Mine is stock with 102,xxx miles. I bought it used. the car is in next to perfect shape 3 door dings in it. I believe it was very well taken care of.
When i do oil changes at about 3500 miles there is almost no oil loss, and it looks as clean as when i put i in.

I am hoping to see mid 13's , as i am an experienced driver. Yes at the track too. I had started street racing since at 16, and going to the track since i was 18 or 19, i'm now 30. I no longer street race, but continue my track visits.

Yes on paper stats can show one car is better than the other, but it comes down to the driver. My buddy had a 89 5.0 with a few bolt on and 100 dry shot. He couldn't get it into the 13's, I ran mid 13's... and it was a convertible. So it comes down to the driver, the launch and the shifts.
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Cudaben, you're gonna be disappointed if you think there's only a 6hp difference between the Revup and HR. A good bit of information normally left out is that in 07 the SAE HP rating changed causing the number on the sticker to be a bit lower, closer to wheel horsepower (ex. if the HR came out in 06 or earlier it would read around 315-320ish on the sticker) also the power band difference between the two is huge, the HR is almost entirely different.

G35HR, If youre trying to see which car is faster from a "roll" then youre better off looking at the trap speeds of both cars/drivers to decide how well a roll race would go.
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Originally Posted by redline06
Cudaben, you're gonna be disappointed if you think there's only a 6hp difference between the Revup and HR. A good bit of information normally left out is that in 07 the SAE HP rating changed causing the number on the sticker to be a bit lower, closer to wheel horsepower (ex. if the HR came out in 06 or earlier it would read around 315-320ish on the sticker) also the power band difference between the two is huge, the HR is almost entirely different.

G35HR, If youre trying to see which car is faster from a "roll" then youre better off looking at the trap speeds of both cars/drivers to decide how well a roll race would go.
+1 OP

read what I quoted

search and read more...even youtube a couple line ups
Old 01-21-2014, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by redline06
Cudaben, you're gonna be disappointed if you think there's only a 6hp difference between the Revup and HR. A good bit of information normally left out is that in 07 the SAE HP rating changed causing the number on the sticker to be a bit lower, closer to wheel horsepower (ex. if the HR came out in 06 or earlier it would read around 315-320ish on the sticker) also the power band difference between the two is huge, the HR is almost entirely different.

G35HR, If youre trying to see which car is faster from a "roll" then youre better off looking at the trap speeds of both cars/drivers to decide how well a roll race would go.
I'm not super worried about a few HP . I lined up against a 300c srt-8, and beat it. (closed course, not 1/4 mile though) Im happy with it. My 'Cuda is my fun fast car. the Z is a DD.
Old 01-23-2014, 04:36 AM
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Mine were backed up at 4 different tracks on numerous occasions. The weak stock slave cylinder kept me from launching harder, or high 12's may have been possible, which seemed to be a problem with most HR's.

My best time was actually at a slower trap speed track (Carolina Dragway), with a slight uphill run at the end. My fastest runs were at Steele, MMP and SGMP. On my strongest runs, the car trapped 107-109.

My family and I attended many car events, some of which were with a national GTO club, so I have plenty of head to head videos against the LS1 and LS2 GTO's. Stock for stock, the LS2 GTO should be slightly faster during perfect conditions, manual versus manual. The LS1 GTO is a bit slower, again stock versus stock, from my experience and observing their track times. Once they mod though, they make a lot more power from the mods. It really still comes down to the driver though. I have won some lost some against a stock LS2 GTO, and it was very close. The driver was also very good. I ran a friend with a stock and then bolt on A4 GTO on multiple occasions. Stock for stock it was a pretty severe beating, but it got closer after he started with the bolt ons, but I still held a half second edge. Tons of videos from those events.

There is another HR that has trapped at 109 stock as well, and I remember posting the youtube video on here, looking for the member, so it's no fluke. Average driver's should see mid to high 13's, good driver's, low to mid 13's, VERY good driver's low 13's in most conditions (slave cylinder inhibited). The car was strong enough for high 12's if Nissan had designed a better slave cylinder. I hope to buy a 2007-2008 G35 sedan at some point, and see what I can do with that.

Old 02-12-2014, 05:23 PM
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Damn HR's lol
Old 02-13-2014, 02:42 PM
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Why are we comparing ws6 or gto vs a z...that's apples to oranges... heavy turds with bad body roll madness vs a nimble lightweight two seater sports car... lol

But yeah z's can beat stock ls1's..with bolt ons its a different story..i wanted a ws6 before I got my z... pros to cons the ws6 may have power but it lacks everything else
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This thread is funny. Lots of misinformed peeps who are clearly scared to go to the track.

If I had to bet on 2 drivers of equal skill, LS1 F-body v HRZ (both 6 speed) Id bet on the LS1.

They are just stronger cars even up top. A monkey should still trap over 105mph in an LS1, but some of the non driving clowns in Z's run DE or worse times in their HR's.

But what do I know, I never been to the track or done a pull on the street.
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Ive seen a few stock ls1 fbods in the 12s. Dont think any zs are doing that.
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Originally Posted by jackie chan
Ive seen a few stock ls1 fbods in the 12s. Dont think any zs are doing that.
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