**** 4.083 Gears/Final Drive Installed**** - Page 29

Zippy_z · 04-20-2009, 08:52 PM

Just my quick review on the 4.083 gears.

I had them installed about 6 months ago (roughly 1000 miles). Right off the bat i felt a big increase in response and torque. It was a blast in every gear. The higher RPM in each gear really made no difference in MPG. The bump up in RPM in each gear gives you power on hand during highway driving. I have had zero problems so far and im sure i wont see any problems.

I got the gears installed without the intentions of going FI. A deal came up on a vortech kit that i couldnt pass up. I saw the gears as being a benefit for being S/C. The quick revs bring on boost faster and it actually feels like it pulls harder than the 7psi i am running.

I am absolutely satisfied with the gears and i think its a must for EVERY N/A application and a good choice for any S/C application. I just want to say thanks to Z_ology (Nate) for doing the install and if you are in the ohio area check him out, he does good work. If anyone has questions just shoot me a PM

JK_HRZ · 04-23-2009, 04:02 PM

I also forgot to mention, STP Motorsports did my install. If you live in the south florida area, they are very experienced with Differential and Final Drive Gear install's. They do a lot of drag racing mod's and are very experienced. If you need the number to get this installed just PM me and I'll be happy to help you.

Also on a side note, for the person who recommended Japtrix to me, they do not take apart pumpkins for the FD swap, thanks though.

~J

chrisl113 · 04-23-2009, 10:45 PM

hey jk hrz thanks for the review its nice to hear an hr owners prespective. so all in all, does it feel like more torque or just the engine winding up faster?

Z1 Performance · 04-24-2009, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisl113

hey jk hrz thanks for the review its nice to hear an hr owners prespective. so all in all, does it feel like more torque or just the engine winding up faster?

more torque = quicker acceleration

final drive gears are torque multipliers

chrisl113 · 04-24-2009, 06:44 AM

^ yea im aware of that, i was asking if it felt like more torque was there. just curious, never messed with gears but im iinterested.

JK_HRZ · 04-24-2009, 11:24 AM

It definately feel's more torquey because your higher in the RPM band in every gear.

For example, 40MPH in 2nd gear is at approximately 4000 RPMs with the stock 3.5 FD (275 tires).
40MPH in 2nd gear now is around 5000 RPM's with the 4.083 FD. So it definately pulls much harder when you punch it as to compared with the 3.5 FD.

It also gives you an advantage while racing. Everytime you take a gear to redline, it puts the next gear higher in the RPM range so you will always be in the "meaty" part of your power band ; basically it just never stops pulling, lol.

This is seriously an AWESOME mod. Every NA Z should get this, whether it be a DE or HR, Both will accelerate much faster.

~J

chrisl113 · 04-24-2009, 11:37 AM

hey do you have a track to go test your 1/4 miles or 0-60? id bet youd hit 13.1 if your a good driver, seeming the good drivers on here hit 13.3 with the hr. 0-60 i know isnt the most important thing but im curious if you could pull a 4.8 from the stock 5.2?

JK_HRZ · 04-24-2009, 01:16 PM

I honestly think my car has the potential to hit high 12's in the 1/4 (Seeing that stock VQ35HR's run 13.2 with 2.0 60 foot's), however I can't get a good 60 foot + I have 19" rims on street tires.

Your 1/4 mile time drastically depends on your launch, and I completely fail at that. But then again, I've only been to the track twice.
The best 60 foot I could pull off was a 2.185 and that run was 13.3 @ 107. (Before current tune and 4.083 Gears)

I'm sure if I got a pair of 17's with some nice radial's I Could pull off a high 12, however I'm low on funds and do not plan on purchasing some new rims + tires, sorry about that, but next time I do go to the track, I'll be sure to post some time slips.

tywinter · 04-27-2009, 04:01 AM

I've installed the 4.083 gears this past weekend and they are impressive. My biggest impression is when you hit 2nd, 3rd and even 4th gear while in the peak of the powerband. The differance in pull just makes you say WOW!

Very good mod.

c35 · 04-28-2009, 10:21 PM

What's the Nissan part number for this please??

The 4.083 gear comes out of a
Nissan Frontier
2005-2007 King Cab M/T 2.5L
C200
4.083

Thanks!

tywinter · 04-30-2009, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c35

What's the Nissan part number for this please??

The 4.083 gear comes out of a
Nissan Frontier
2005-2007 King Cab M/T 2.5L
C200
4.083

Thanks!

http://www.courtesyparts.com/frontie...4950_4975.html

I would consider one of these, but not 100% sure if it is the right one.

Chasecbc · 05-21-2009, 05:41 AM

DO you think you would be able to find a wrecked frontier at a junkyard and pull the gears for cheap?

TheSyn3rgist · 06-02-2009, 10:11 PM

If you guys don't mind me asking, about how much are you spending on parts and labor for this install? I thought I saw the R&P were about $450...

solar_n_orange · 06-14-2009, 12:43 AM

I was wondering if someone on here much smarter than i could explain in detail why the shorter gears work better if you were to go s/c versus turbo later on down the road? I'm definately going FI and am leaning towards ATI Procharger mainly because the owner of the restaurant i manage has had a lot of work done by those guys. Plus i live like 5 minutes from their shop.

If i had to venture a guess (you can point and laugh if im wrong) the shorter gears would do better on a S/C because of the more linear torque curve versus more of a bell type curve for the turbo setup.

Im just planning my build now and will be staying N/A for awhile so I'm trying to plan mods that may still be viable when i go FI. Thanks for any help

chrisl113 · 06-14-2009, 11:35 AM

im pretty sure it has to do with the fact that superchargers have instant boost per say, so the shorter gears are going to shorten the time you have in each gear, which will increase acceleration. whereas turbos need time to spool up, so longer gears will alow you to stay in boost longer, and also everytime you shift you loose boost so the quicker and more frequently you have to shift, the more you wait for the turbos to spool back up. thats my take on it. not very technical, though.

PAYBACK · 06-17-2009, 09:58 PM

I have a 07 I’m going to do 4.083 gears in and I’m wondering exactly what I am going to need to do the install properly? Like bearings and shims? my car has about 27000 miles on it if you guys could plz hook me up with a grocery list I will really appreciate it thank you

Z1 Performance · 06-18-2009, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAYBACK

I have a 07 I’m going to do 4.083 gears in and I’m wondering exactly what I am going to need to do the install properly? Like bearings and shims? my car has about 27000 miles on it if you guys could plz hook me up with a grocery list I will really appreciate it thank you

we have a combo with everything needed - details are in our classified ad

http://my350z.com/forum/drivetrain/3...-in-stock.html

at 27k, I'd suggest doing both install kit 1 and 2, which will give you all new bearings, seals, ring gear bolts, in addition to the crush collar, pinion nut and seal. I would not suggest reusing bearings with that many miles on them

Z ELIMINATOR · 06-18-2009, 05:56 AM

Im about to install the 4.08 in my 7 AT 370 z.
I just bought a complete diff from another member here in Toronto.
I will have it in by mid July.
Will keep you posted.

limitedslip · 07-08-2009, 04:46 PM

i would love to do this gearing but I have to commute to work. whats the mpg like and how about high speeds? maybe I should read the ten pages of info.lol

Z1 Performance · 07-08-2009, 05:04 PM

rpms in 6th gear only differ by a couple of hundred vs stock. I've had the 3.9 in my car for years now....zero change in miles per tank since the day I bought the car

the car will still top out higher than you would every be able to drive it on the street (see page 1 for charts)

04-20-2009, 08:52 PM	#561
Zippy_z USAF Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 991 iTrader: (11)	Just my quick review on the 4.083 gears. I had them installed about 6 months ago (roughly 1000 miles). Right off the bat i felt a big increase in response and torque. It was a blast in every gear. The higher RPM in each gear really made no difference in MPG. The bump up in RPM in each gear gives you power on hand during highway driving. I have had zero problems so far and im sure i wont see any problems. I got the gears installed without the intentions of going FI. A deal came up on a vortech kit that i couldnt pass up. I saw the gears as being a benefit for being S/C. The quick revs bring on boost faster and it actually feels like it pulls harder than the 7psi i am running. I am absolutely satisfied with the gears and i think its a must for EVERY N/A application and a good choice for any S/C application. I just want to say thanks to Z_ology (Nate) for doing the install and if you are in the ohio area check him out, he does good work. If anyone has questions just shoot me a PM __________________ 03' Touring CS VORTECH 3.12--Utec--Enkei RPF1--*Injen SES--Megan TP's--Motordyne 5/16--4.08 FD* --*Nismo cover* --Eibach Sportlines--*SPC*

04-23-2009, 04:02 PM	#562
JK_HRZ Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SFL Posts: 124 iTrader: (1)	I also forgot to mention, STP Motorsports did my install. If you live in the south florida area, they are very experienced with Differential and Final Drive Gear install's. They do a lot of drag racing mod's and are very experienced. If you need the number to get this installed just PM me and I'll be happy to help you. Also on a side note, for the person who recommended Japtrix to me, they do not take apart pumpkins for the FD swap, thanks though. ~J __________________ Parting out full bolt on HR Z. See Mod list in profile

04-24-2009, 11:24 AM	#566
JK_HRZ Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SFL Posts: 124 iTrader: (1)	It definately feel's more torquey because your higher in the RPM band in every gear. For example, 40MPH in 2nd gear is at approximately 4000 RPMs with the stock 3.5 FD (275 tires). 40MPH in 2nd gear now is around 5000 RPM's with the 4.083 FD. So it definately pulls much harder when you punch it as to compared with the 3.5 FD. It also gives you an advantage while racing. Everytime you take a gear to redline, it puts the next gear higher in the RPM range so you will always be in the "meaty" part of your power band ; basically it just never stops pulling, lol. This is seriously an AWESOME mod. Every NA Z should get this, whether it be a DE or HR, Both will accelerate much faster. ~J __________________ Parting out full bolt on HR Z. See Mod list in profile

04-24-2009, 01:16 PM	#568
JK_HRZ Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SFL Posts: 124 iTrader: (1)	I honestly think my car has the potential to hit high 12's in the 1/4 (Seeing that stock VQ35HR's run 13.2 with 2.0 60 foot's), however I can't get a good 60 foot + I have 19" rims on street tires. Your 1/4 mile time drastically depends on your launch, and I completely fail at that. But then again, I've only been to the track twice. The best 60 foot I could pull off was a 2.185 and that run was 13.3 @ 107. (Before current tune and 4.083 Gears) I'm sure if I got a pair of 17's with some nice radial's I Could pull off a high 12, however I'm low on funds and do not plan on purchasing some new rims + tires, sorry about that, but next time I do go to the track, I'll be sure to post some time slips. __________________ Parting out full bolt on HR Z. See Mod list in profile

04-27-2009, 04:01 AM	#569
tywinter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hagerstown MD Posts: 346 iTrader: (3)	I've installed the 4.083 gears this past weekend and they are impressive. My biggest impression is when you hit 2nd, 3rd and even 4th gear while in the peak of the powerband. The differance in pull just makes you say WOW! Very good mod. __________________ 2003 Brickyard Red Touring 6 Speed 13.201@103.52mph 265HP/249TQ sae corrected Ported Lower Plenum, Kinetix V+ Plenum, JWT Pop Charger, "Z-Xtreme" grounding kit, UR Pulley, ACT Clutch & Flywheel, Fast Intentions "Intimidator" 2.5" dual exhaust, Test Pipes, OSIRIS tuned Stillen "Series II" Front Bumper, Volk Racing SF Challenges 2004 Galaxy Black Titan Crew Cab OR/BT Packages, Flowmaster Exhaust

04-23-2009, 10:45 PM	#563
chrisl113 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: baltimore md Posts: 205 iTrader: (1)	hey jk hrz thanks for the review its nice to hear an hr owners prespective. so all in all, does it feel like more torque or just the engine winding up faster?

04-24-2009, 06:44 AM	#565
chrisl113 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: baltimore md Posts: 205 iTrader: (1)	^ yea im aware of that, i was asking if it felt like more torque was there. just curious, never messed with gears but im iinterested.

04-24-2009, 11:37 AM	#567
chrisl113 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: baltimore md Posts: 205 iTrader: (1)	hey do you have a track to go test your 1/4 miles or 0-60? id bet youd hit 13.1 if your a good driver, seeming the good drivers on here hit 13.3 with the hr. 0-60 i know isnt the most important thing but im curious if you could pull a 4.8 from the stock 5.2?

04-28-2009, 10:21 PM	#570
c35 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Straight Outta A.V. Posts: 31 iTrader: (1)	What's the Nissan part number for this please?? The 4.083 gear comes out of a Nissan Frontier 2005-2007 King Cab M/T 2.5L C200 4.083 Thanks! __________________ 2003.5 G35 Coupe AT - Chone Figgins Edition

05-21-2009, 05:41 AM	#572
Chasecbc Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: St.louis Posts: 167 iTrader: (2)	DO you think you would be able to find a wrecked frontier at a junkyard and pull the gears for cheap?

06-02-2009, 10:11 PM	#573
TheSyn3rgist Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 37 iTrader: (0)	If you guys don't mind me asking, about how much are you spending on parts and labor for this install? I thought I saw the R&P were about $450... __________________ Black 2006 350Z

06-14-2009, 12:43 AM	#574
solar_n_orange Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	I was wondering if someone on here much smarter than i could explain in detail why the shorter gears work better if you were to go s/c versus turbo later on down the road? I'm definately going FI and am leaning towards ATI Procharger mainly because the owner of the restaurant i manage has had a lot of work done by those guys. Plus i live like 5 minutes from their shop. If i had to venture a guess (you can point and laugh if im wrong) the shorter gears would do better on a S/C because of the more linear torque curve versus more of a bell type curve for the turbo setup. Im just planning my build now and will be staying N/A for awhile so I'm trying to plan mods that may still be viable when i go FI. Thanks for any help

06-14-2009, 11:35 AM	#575
chrisl113 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: baltimore md Posts: 205 iTrader: (1)	im pretty sure it has to do with the fact that superchargers have instant boost per say, so the shorter gears are going to shorten the time you have in each gear, which will increase acceleration. whereas turbos need time to spool up, so longer gears will alow you to stay in boost longer, and also everytime you shift you loose boost so the quicker and more frequently you have to shift, the more you wait for the turbos to spool back up. thats my take on it. not very technical, though.

06-17-2009, 09:58 PM	#576
PAYBACK Registered User 2001 BMW 3-Series My Garage Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Az Posts: 39 iTrader: (1)	I have a 07 I’m going to do 4.083 gears in and I’m wondering exactly what I am going to need to do the install properly? Like bearings and shims? my car has about 27000 miles on it if you guys could plz hook me up with a grocery list I will really appreciate it thank you

06-18-2009, 05:56 AM	#578
Z ELIMINATOR Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: gta ont canada Posts: 203 iTrader: (2)	Im about to install the 4.08 in my 7 AT 370 z. I just bought a complete diff from another member here in Toronto. I will have it in by mid July. Will keep you posted.

07-08-2009, 04:46 PM	#579
limitedslip Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: eastern,ct Posts: 11 iTrader: (0)	i would love to do this gearing but I have to commute to work. whats the mpg like and how about high speeds? maybe I should read the ten pages of info.lol

07-08-2009, 05:04 PM	#580
Z1 Performance MY350Z.COM Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 16,231 iTrader: (430)	rpms in 6th gear only differ by a couple of hundred vs stock. I've had the 3.9 in my car for years now....zero change in miles per tank since the day I bought the car the car will still top out higher than you would every be able to drive it on the street (see page 1 for charts) __________________ Adam Z1 Performance www.z1auto.com 631.863.3820 AIM:z1auto www.cornerbalance.wordpress.com 320WHP Project Z33 - All Motor - Click!

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