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Old 09-06-2016, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by travlee
i dont have the need to take it to redline
So you are saying you have never ever taken your car near redline at any point of owning it PERIOD? You have never taken it to the race track? you have never got on it at any point? I find that very, very hard to believe you have NEVER done this at any point.

Granted... I never hit redline. But you are saying you have NEVER gotten NEAR redline..... come on... with all of those mods on that z06... HAHAHA

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Old 09-06-2016, 10:17 AM
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hence why i dont need to take it to redline
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Old 09-06-2016, 10:31 AM
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I heard if you take a Z06 to redline a black hole opens up and destroys the world.
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Old 09-06-2016, 12:49 PM
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I heard if you take a Z06 to redline, the exhaust starts screaming "IWAAANTOOOBEEEAVIPERRR!"
Old 09-06-2016, 01:06 PM
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Well played, but no
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I thought you'd like that.
Old 09-06-2016, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Syner
I thought you'd like that.
thats prob what classy's 300 sounds like
Old 09-06-2016, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Same here, only off throttle for a split second
Uhm isnt that what youre supposed to do when you shift ?? Wth.. That's how ive been driving my car ever since i learned how to drive a manual via Youtube. You let off gas, step on the clutch , shift gear, give it gas . Who the hell keep giving it gas AND shifting at the same time ???
And mind you this is my 3rd manual car
Old 09-07-2016, 05:49 AM
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When you're shifting gears, you're asking a good amount of rotating mass to change its speed, almost instantaneously, and that's the problem. Inertia. The synchro rings will help to some extent. First to second is the toughest, because of the size of those gear sets, but so is neutral to first. Anyone able to push in the clutch and immediately slam the stick into first gear? Of course not, and that's why you need to pause first to second, too, and so on with the other gears.

I don't track my Z, but have done a lot of track time in the past with my Alfa's. Same problem with those gearboxes, which are somewhat overbuilt, and that little 2-liter motor can rev pretty quickly. The trick with the Alfa gearboxes is to undercut and cross-drill the gear sets, reducing the rotating mass of the system. Shifts are lightning-quick, but it's a lot of work cutting gears, which are hardened to prevent wear. Here's a pic of what I'm describing:

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Originally Posted by terrj
Uhm isnt that what youre supposed to do when you shift ?? Wth.. That's how ive been driving my car ever since i learned how to drive a manual via Youtube. You let off gas, step on the clutch , shift gear, give it gas . Who the hell keep giving it gas AND shifting at the same time ???
And mind you this is my 3rd manual car
If you have a heavy enough clutch, you can shift without letting off the gas at all.

Not for everyday driving, and not for a stock clutch though.
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Originally Posted by Syner
If you have a heavy enough clutch, you can shift without letting off the gas at all.

Not for everyday driving, and not for a stock clutch though.
Still wouldnt do it, i cant bring myself to beat on my baby like that
Old 09-11-2016, 12:44 AM
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Have you tried double de-clutching to see if that lets you into 2nd at very high RPM?

You will find some oils syncro match better when cold and some are better when hot - I haven't found an oil that works well hot and cold

Given the previous owner had a leaking clutch it is possible that the syncro on 2nd took a little abuse
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