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I have a 2003 Z and my synchros finally started to go.
I'm planning on upgrading to the CD009 trans, but I'm very confused about what I need. Every single posting on this forum says something slightly different.
I will be borrowing a friends lift to the swap so I'm trying to make sure I have everything I need before doing the swap so I don't get stuck on his lift and take up shop space.
What do I need to purchase to complete the swap?
I'm going to be getting the transmission from a friends junkyard for a steal, it comes with the shifter bracket and everything.
What year clutch kit do I need to run since it's a newer trans on an older engine?
Also, wanted to upgrade my master/slave cylinders but I'm not sure if I should buy the kits for the DE or the HR.
Thank you in advance and Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays!
I have a 2003 Z and my synchros finally started to go.
I'm planning on upgrading to the CD009 trans, but I'm very confused about what I need. Every single posting on this forum says something slightly different.
I will be borrowing a friends lift to the swap so I'm trying to make sure I have everything I need before doing the swap so I don't get stuck on his lift and take up shop space.
What do I need to purchase to complete the swap?
I'm going to be getting the transmission from a friends junkyard for a steal, it comes with the shifter bracket and everything.
What year clutch kit do I need to run since it's a newer trans on an older engine?
Also, wanted to upgrade my master/slave cylinders but I'm not sure if I should buy the kits for the DE or the HR.
Thank you in advance and Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays!
First thing you need to do is confirm what year car the 009 is coming from..... "HR 009 tranny" - actually called JK4-xx - ('07-08) won't fit your '03 DE*. You need the CD009 specific to the DE that was offered '05-06.
Once you determine it's the right transmission, buy all the parts (hydraulics, clutch, flywheel, pilot-long for '03, sort for '04-06.) for specfic year, '03-06.
* Note: It can be done but it's a LOT of work swapping tranny tailshaft assembly and the cases from your '03 to the HR box. There's a thread here somewhere that details that mess....
First thing you need to do is confirm what year car the 009 is coming from..... HR 009 tranny ('07-08) won't fit your '03 DE*. You need the CD009 specific to the DE that was offered '05-06.
Once you determine it's the right transmission, buy all the parts (hydraulics, clutch, flywheel, pilot, pivot, etc.) for '03-06.
* Note: It can be done but it's a LOT of work swapping tranny tailshaft assembly and the cases from your '03 to the HR box. There's a thread here somewhere that details that mess....
Oh damn, I didn't know that thank you for that info! Any specific way to verify which CD009 came off the 05-06?
Where are you getting the CD009 from? I ordered mine from Z1 and had it installed at a local shop. Installation cost me $425, which I thought was worth it.
I also bought a new flywheel and clutch plate at the same time so it can all get installed.
Z1 told me that the CD009 has new fluid in it and was good for 5,000 miles before I felt like replacing it with different, synthetic fluid.
Where are you getting the CD009 from? I ordered mine from Z1 and had it installed at a local shop. Installation cost me $425, which I thought was worth it.
I also bought a new flywheel and clutch plate at the same time so it can all get installed.
Z1 told me that the CD009 has new fluid in it and was good for 5,000 miles before I felt like replacing it with different, synthetic fluid.
was the tranny all you needed? im considering this. mine grinds, but its manageable so it not on the top of my list.
i always assumed that it was just a direct swap, but base on op research and question, im starting to think that its more to it than just taking the old tranny out and putting the new one in?
Mine was just starting to grind and was becoming a nuisance. So I ordered the CD009, flywheel, and clutch. I thought it was a direct swap. I could be wrong since I didn't do it, but I was on the phone with Z1 who knew exactly what I needed. Pretty easy transaction with them, but I knew it would be.
Mine was just starting to grind and was becoming a nuisance. So I ordered the CD009, flywheel, and clutch. I thought it was a direct swap. I could be wrong since I didn't do it, but I was on the phone with Z1 who knew exactly what I needed. Pretty easy transaction with them, but I knew it would be.
thanks! i already have the clutch and flywheel that im happy with so thats an extra 2k ill save haha ill probably have to give them a call and see whats all i need.
'03-06 DE models use same transmission bolt pattern, clutch, flywheel, T/O, hydraulics, pilot bushing, etc. regardless of model transmission, CD001, 008, 009. (Only difference is the pivot ball and fork. '03 uses long pivot ball and stainless stamped fork, '04-up uses short pivot ball and iron fork - they ARE different and must use the right pivot/fork combination or you risk binding)
"CD009 for HR" is technically not a CD009; Nissan calls the HR version transmissions "JK4xx" (JK400 and JK41B) and they use diff bolt pattern, internal concentric slave cylinder, different hydraulic system (master, hose, etc). You can use an earlier or later master for either early or late Z33 but best to keep with OEM or OEM-equivalent for year.
All later model ('07+ HR/VHR) JK4xx transmission CASES (just the case) are all marked "CD5"
There is an I.D. sticker on the front of the case (which shows which specific model and/or build date it came from but is likely missing from the tranny if it's used). In that case, you will need to measure the bolt mounting holes and compare to your stock tranny or to bolt holes in the engine block. Also note that the earlier models had/have a larger opening in the bell housing where the shift fork enters the housing.
DE-specific version went by Nissan PN 32010-CD009 and superseded by Nissan PN 32010-CD00A (if you are searching for a new one).
Another telltale is that the CD009 GENERALLY has the "skeletal" shifter bracket versus the earlier 001-008 that uses a more solid bracket but that's not conclusive.... note the word "generally".
And FYI, early model trans cases (DE engine) for CD001 - CD009 are identified by casing number CD0. Later introductions ('06) are marked CD0 #2 (and e.g. #3, etc. I believe)
Hope this helps.
Mic
Last edited by MicVelo; 04-07-2022 at 02:03 PM.
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'03-06 DE models use same transmission bolt pattern, clutch, flywheel, T/O, hydraulics, pilot bushing, etc. regardless of model transmission, CD001, 008, 009.
CD009 for HR uses diff bolt pattern, internal concentric slave cylinder, different hydraulic system (master, hose, etc). You can use an earlier or later master for either early or late Z33 but best to keep with OEM or OEM-equivalent for year.
All later model CD009 transmission CASES (just the case) are all marked "CD05"
...but this does NOT identify it as a DE or HR specific. That, you'll need to I.D. it from the sticker on it (which shows which specific model and/or build date it came from but is likely missing from the tranny if it's used). In that case, you will need to measure the bolt mounting holes and compare to your stock tranny or to bolt holes in the engine block.
DE-specific version went by Nissan PN 32010-CD009 and superseded by Nissan PN 32010-CD00A (if you are searching for a new one).
Another telltale is that the CD009 GENERALLY has the "skeletal" shifter bracket versus the earlier 001-008 that uses a more solid bracket but that's not conclusive.... note the word "generally".
And FYI, early model trans cases for CD001 - CD008 are identified by casing number CD0.
As usual, Mic has the correct info here (complete with pics) and is to be commended for offering factual advice. Too bad his info can't be stickied (not just on this topic) but others as well, to provide the definitive answers to all the BS and misinformation that only serves to confuse.
'03-06 DE models use same transmission bolt pattern, clutch, flywheel, T/O, hydraulics, pilot bushing, etc. regardless of model transmission, CD001, 008, 009.
CD009 for HR uses diff bolt pattern, internal concentric slave cylinder, different hydraulic system (master, hose, etc). You can use an earlier or later master for either early or late Z33 but best to keep with OEM or OEM-equivalent for year.
All later model CD009 transmission CASES (just the case) are all marked "CD5"
...but this does NOT identify it as a DE or HR specific. That, you'll need to I.D. it from the sticker on it (which shows which specific model and/or build date it came from but is likely missing from the tranny if it's used). In that case, you will need to measure the bolt mounting holes and compare to your stock tranny or to bolt holes in the engine block.
DE-specific version went by Nissan PN 32010-CD009 and superseded by Nissan PN 32010-CD00A (if you are searching for a new one).
Another telltale is that the CD009 GENERALLY has the "skeletal" shifter bracket versus the earlier 001-008 that uses a more solid bracket but that's not conclusive.... note the word "generally".
And FYI, early model trans cases for CD001 - CD008 are identified by casing number CD0.
Hope this helps.
Mic
Thank you so much for all the great info! Anyway this thread can get stickied for all the other guys to see?
I have a 2003 Z and my synchros finally started to go.
I'm planning on upgrading to the CD009 trans, but I'm very confused about what I need. Every single posting on this forum says something slightly different.
I will be borrowing a friends lift to the swap so I'm trying to make sure I have everything I need before doing the swap so I don't get stuck on his lift and take up shop space.
What do I need to purchase to complete the swap?
I'm going to be getting the transmission from a friends junkyard for a steal, it comes with the shifter bracket and everything.
What year clutch kit do I need to run since it's a newer trans on an older engine?
Also, wanted to upgrade my master/slave cylinders but I'm not sure if I should buy the kits for the DE or the HR.
Thank you in advance and Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays!
i have an 04 i bought my cd009 tranny from the junkyard recently for 650 bucks. it came off a 06 350z, the 06 350z used the revup vq35de so you basically just run clutch kit in conjunction with what is compatible to the de engine. i dont know why you would want to upgrade your master cylinder/slave cylinder you technically dont have to you can if you want to be on the safe side like me.
you need to buy the shorter pivot ball since your putting in a newer tranny into your 03. this is mandatory or you will have some serious issues with your tranny when driving. heres the link.
i have an 04 i bought my cd009 tranny from the junkyard recently for 650 bucks. it came off a 06 350z, the 06 350z used the revup vq35de so you basically just run clutch kit in conjunction with what is compatible to the de engine. i dont know why you would want to upgrade your master cylinder/slave cylinder you technically dont have to you can if you want to be on the safe side like me.
you need to buy the shorter pivot ball since your putting in a newer tranny into your 03. this is mandatory or you will have some serious issues with your tranny when driving. heres the link.
First thing you need to do is confirm what year car the 009 is coming from..... HR 009 tranny ('07-08) won't fit your '03 DE*. You need the CD009 specific to the DE that was offered '05-06.
Once you determine it's the right transmission, buy all the parts (hydraulics, clutch, flywheel, pilot, pivot, etc.) for '03-06.
* Note: It can be done but it's a LOT of work swapping tranny tailshaft assembly and the cases from your '03 to the HR box. There's a thread here somewhere that details that mess....
I had the 009 swap done in my 03 z, all i had to swap was a clutch fork and pivot ball. Nothing seems to be wrong. Have i ****ed up? Z1 sent me everything i needed allegedly
bump, Im in the same boat as Garniz33. im picking up a trans out of an 06 but my 03 clutch is new so i dont plan on doing anything other than swapping the trans body. my question is on the fork and pivot. i am grateful for any help
I completely agree but im prepping to sell it and if it has a new clutch it isnt worth my money to replace more than the bare essentials. i realize i didnt ask my question! with the 03 clutch do i need the 03 fork and pivot?
12-26-2015, 09:04 AM
Upgrading to CD009
