NEW NISMO "Short Shifter" (Adjustable Height Shifter) My Review...
11-21-2004, 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by Jason@Performance
It is a bit greater if you are running a lighter weight shift ****... And the most comfortable shift **** to me is the black ball NISMO **** which is far lighter then the more common NISMO Shaft style ***** or GT Titanium style *****... Putting one of them on will make shifting less restrictive... The way I shift, the least amount of effort the better...
It is a bit greater if you are running a lighter weight shift ****... And the most comfortable shift **** to me is the black ball NISMO **** which is far lighter then the more common NISMO Shaft style ***** or GT Titanium style *****... Putting one of them on will make shifting less restrictive... The way I shift, the least amount of effort the better...
11-21-2004, 06:07 PM
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On the way back from the laundry room...
I thought I should post that in the tallest position the effort in moving the shifter is very light... it is only in the 2 shorter positions it is harder...
I think I need to put the 09 trans in my car when we get them
I thought I should post that in the tallest position the effort in moving the shifter is very light... it is only in the 2 shorter positions it is harder...
I think I need to put the 09 trans in my car when we get them
11-21-2004, 07:04 PM
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I like jason's diagram, it's to the point.
I think everybody would like a shift lever with stock effort and a shorter throw. The problem is that we can't change the law of Physics. If you are going to move a load from point A to point B with a lever, the shorter the lever, the higher the force needed to move that lever.
We could put electromagnets on each end of the shift pattern and have them attract and repel when you push in the clutch, but that might be pretty expensive.
I think everybody would like a shift lever with stock effort and a shorter throw. The problem is that we can't change the law of Physics. If you are going to move a load from point A to point B with a lever, the shorter the lever, the higher the force needed to move that lever.
We could put electromagnets on each end of the shift pattern and have them attract and repel when you push in the clutch, but that might be pretty expensive.
11-21-2004, 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by company man
I like jason's diagram, it's to the point.
I think everybody would like a shift lever with stock effort and a shorter throw. The problem is that we can't change the law of Physics. If you are going to move a load from point A to point B with a lever, the shorter the lever, the higher the force needed to move that lever.
We could put electromagnets on each end of the shift pattern and have them attract and repel when you push in the clutch, but that might be pretty expensive.
I like jason's diagram, it's to the point.
I think everybody would like a shift lever with stock effort and a shorter throw. The problem is that we can't change the law of Physics. If you are going to move a load from point A to point B with a lever, the shorter the lever, the higher the force needed to move that lever.
We could put electromagnets on each end of the shift pattern and have them attract and repel when you push in the clutch, but that might be pretty expensive.
Thanks you...
If the shifters shortest height was stock with the throw of the shortest setting with the option to make it taller with a longer throw I would like it more... That is just may personal taste on it...
Maybe look into a longer shifter that is adjustable with the shortest throw at stock height and longest throw 100% taller?
wouldnt be too hard to make at this point...
11-21-2004, 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by MIAPLAYA
Hmm I drove my car with stock ****, Nismo CF, and for a couple days with no **** at all just for testing purposes and even with no **** I did not find it to be overlly difficult nor did it require any kind of significant force over stock. And if you met me you would know I'm no Hulk.
Hmm I drove my car with stock ****, Nismo CF, and for a couple days with no **** at all just for testing purposes and even with no **** I did not find it to be overlly difficult nor did it require any kind of significant force over stock. And if you met me you would know I'm no Hulk.
11-22-2004, 12:07 AM
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i dont know guys? i still like the rogue engineering shifter. i have had mine for a LONG time now, and i still love it. after they added that pin to the design, you cant go wrong. best short throw shifter on the market for the 350z IMO.
11-22-2004, 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by company man
I like jason's diagram, it's to the point.
I think everybody would like a shift lever with stock effort and a shorter throw. The problem is that we can't change the law of Physics. If you are going to move a load from point A to point B with a lever, the shorter the lever, the higher the force needed to move that lever.
We could put electromagnets on each end of the shift pattern and have them attract and repel when you push in the clutch, but that might be pretty expensive.
I like jason's diagram, it's to the point.
I think everybody would like a shift lever with stock effort and a shorter throw. The problem is that we can't change the law of Physics. If you are going to move a load from point A to point B with a lever, the shorter the lever, the higher the force needed to move that lever.
We could put electromagnets on each end of the shift pattern and have them attract and repel when you push in the clutch, but that might be pretty expensive.
11-22-2004, 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by DeeZee
i dont know guys? i still like the rogue engineering shifter. i have had mine for a LONG time now, and i still love it. after they added that pin to the design, you cant go wrong. best short throw shifter on the market for the 350z IMO.
i dont know guys? i still like the rogue engineering shifter. i have had mine for a LONG time now, and i still love it. after they added that pin to the design, you cant go wrong. best short throw shifter on the market for the 350z IMO.
Do you ever get any vibration or audible "hand-off ****" rattle?
11-23-2004, 01:06 AM
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It looks good for Mossy that NISMO liked their product enough to put their name on it. I know how NISMO operates with regards to some US Spec products but it doesnt feel like a real NISMO product.
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11-23-2004, 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by mchapman
It looks good for Mossy that NISMO liked their product enough to put their name on it. I know how NISMO operates with regards to some US Spec products but it doesnt feel like a real NISMO product.
It looks good for Mossy that NISMO liked their product enough to put their name on it. I know how NISMO operates with regards to some US Spec products but it doesnt feel like a real NISMO product.
Mossy just got lucky enough to get the first units to sell.
Mossy liked what they saw from Motorsports.
11-23-2004, 05:39 PM
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I noticed something similar to Jason with the Rogue shifter and my NISMO leather shift ****. The NISMO **** is much shorter than stock and also lighter. The effort to shift was much higher than stock. Moment arm? BJ & John with 350Evo modded my shift **** to closer to stock height and shifting effort went down closer to stock. I have since gone back to a OEM shift **** (greater height = less effort) in combo with the Rogue shifter and effort is closer to stock with an improved shorter shift pattern.
11-23-2004, 09:44 PM
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NEW NISMO " Adjustable Shifter"
The new adjustable shifter was designed utilizing the stock shift ****. The design was such that when the shifter is adjusted to the stock position, using the stock ****, it has the stock throw. Using other shift ***** will change the design intent.
At stock height, the effort remains the same.
A 20% shorter throw will have roughly a 20% increase in the amount of effort.
A 40% shorter throw will have roughly a 40% increase in the amount of effort.
If your not strong enough to handle the 40%, adjust it to 20%. If you can't handle the 20%, don't get a short shifter.
(you could adjust it to the 20% longer than stock setting if you need a rest.)
At stock height, the effort remains the same.
A 20% shorter throw will have roughly a 20% increase in the amount of effort.
A 40% shorter throw will have roughly a 40% increase in the amount of effort.
If your not strong enough to handle the 40%, adjust it to 20%. If you can't handle the 20%, don't get a short shifter.
(you could adjust it to the 20% longer than stock setting if you need a rest.)
11-23-2004, 10:26 PM
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I've had the new version (pinned version) of the Rogue shifter on now for over 3000k and no vibrations all at any gear or rpm, I did purchase a new OEM nylon shifter cup and installed it with the new shifter leaving the stock shifter complete with the orginal nylon cup on the OEM shifter, overall it's a great product if not the best IMO.
David
David
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11-23-2004, 11:33 PM
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Re: 350 Z Adjustable Shifter
Originally posted by company man
The product was developed thru Nissan Motorsports in LA (part of Nismo).
Mossy just got lucky enough to get the first units to sell.
Mossy liked what they saw from Motorsports.
The product was developed thru Nissan Motorsports in LA (part of Nismo).
Mossy just got lucky enough to get the first units to sell.
Mossy liked what they saw from Motorsports.
Does 'company man' work for NISMO? Or Mossy?
11-24-2004, 07:01 AM
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Re: Re: 350 Z Adjustable Shifter
Originally posted by mchapman
Is this confirmed?
Does 'company man' work for NISMO? Or Mossy?
Is this confirmed?
Does 'company man' work for NISMO? Or Mossy?
11-24-2004, 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by ZZZ-35
I've had the new version (pinned version) of the Rogue shifter on now for over 3000k and no vibrations all at any gear or rpm, I did purchase a new OEM nylon shifter cup and installed it with the new shifter leaving the stock shifter complete with the orginal nylon cup on the OEM shifter, overall it's a great product if not the best IMO.
David
I've had the new version (pinned version) of the Rogue shifter on now for over 3000k and no vibrations all at any gear or rpm, I did purchase a new OEM nylon shifter cup and installed it with the new shifter leaving the stock shifter complete with the orginal nylon cup on the OEM shifter, overall it's a great product if not the best IMO.
David