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Physical Perfection.
Does it really exist? We think so. Or, at least pretty darn close.
While the rest of the world is still sleeping, you're sweating it out, pounding the weights at the gym. When your friends are chomping on a plate full of nachos and gulping beers, you're politely asking the waiter for a grilled chicken breast sandwich and a diet soda. There's a reason you do all this: your desire for continual improvement. To get as close as humanly possible to physical perfection. Let's face it: it's what separates you from those "average" schmoes out there.
Well, you're not the only one who strives for perfection. Consider the team of researchers at iSatori. A company with an unwavering commitment to bring you scientifically tested supplements that will help you reach your goals of getting leaner and stronger, faster. It was iSatori who, over five years ago, brought you Lean System 7® (the clinically tested fat-loss supplement that set the standard for ephedrine-free formulas). A supplement considered the "best in its class" and trusted by thousands of users. In fact, over one million servings of Lean System 7 have been used to date. So, you'd think the researchers at iSatori would be content.
That, however, is not the case.
See, iSatori, where scientific integrity and constant innovation are top priorities, has a bit of a hang up on perfection too. Just as you consistently strive to improve your physique, the researchers at iSatori consistently strive to engineer more effective supplements. All in an effort to help you reach your goal of physical perfection.
This quest has resulted in the development of the new MX-LS7—Maximum Strength Lean System 7, the High-Performance Fat Burner for Men. And, there's strong reason to believe this is iSatori's best work yet. What many are already considering the best fat-loss supplement ever created.
I walked in and asked him if he had NxLabs Methyl Ripped Hardcore, and he asked me why I was taking it and proceded to tell me that it wasn't that good since it's just herbs and stuff. He gave me the name of a website he uses and told me to buy that.
This guys sounds like he knows exactly what he's talking about too. He's huge and looks like phreaktor.
Anyways I bought it and it should be coming in today or tomorrow, I just wanted to see if any of you have tried it or heard of it. Otherwise I'll post some results up when I get it.
A little background just so you have more facts that impact my results of MX-LS7. Before starting, little bit about me: 40 year old male, 5'11" and 250 lbs (overweight, working out 5/6 days per week, weights and cardio).
Basic Workout Week:
Mon: Chest/Tri/Shoulder/Legs (Circuit Type Workout: Chest, Tri, Abdominal, etc.) Compounds I'm targetting 3x8s. Legs mostly deads, squats, presses.
Tue: Cardio (45 mins)
Wed: Back/Bi, same type as Mon.
Th: Cardio (45 mins)
Fr: Repeat of Monday
Sat: Repeat of Wed + some cardio (20 mins)
Mon ~ Fr: 20 minutes on Ellipitical at lunch.
Week-1 Using Product and sticking to strict diet (not eating the things that put me at 280 lbs before I started working on changing my lifestyle):
Lost 1.5 lbs, didn't really notice much energy boost or anything else. I did notice I was slightly gittery, only if I didn't drink ~16 ounces of water shortly after taking dose.
Week-2 semi-strict diet, stumbled off the wagon a couple days. Nothing horrible, but a couple stumbles only.
No weightloss, and about same energy effects.
Week-3 another strict diet week. Weight loss 1-lb. Nothing to write home about, but noticed pants fit more loosely than the 2.5 lbs would suggest, that's good.
This is my first product review, hope it doesn't suck. Basically, I wasn't impressed with any "thermogenic" weightloss or energy. I get much more out of ABB's Turbo Tea than I did from the MX-LS7 pills.
I would rate the product poor if you're an overweight person looking for some "extra weightloss" help. I've accepted the fact that the only way to successfully lose weight is to eat healthy, don't cheat, and hit the weights. Slow but affective. As I've read on bb.com before, you didn't gain it overnight, you're not going to lose it overnight. Save your money, if you're needing a little boost, grab a Diet Turbo Tea instead.
Honestly, from what I've been reading, EC stacks sound like they out perform just about all of those weight loss supps. Of course, then you may have to worry about the possible sides of ephedrine, but its not like things like Hydroxycut, etc. didn't have sides. It seems like most of them were due to misuse of the product though... (Ex. The girl that takes an entire bottle of Hydroxycut before prom to deal with those trouble areas!)
Cool, well I ordered MX-LS7 on Saturday so it should be here soon. We'll see how it goes. I've read some good reviews on it as well as bad reviews. It just depends on the person. Ripped Hardcore worked well for me, so this may work too.
And sorry this thread wasn't about an LS engine. Here's one for you:
If you want to lean up, maybe give some thought to cardio and a clean diet. Supplements are just that, supplements. They are the icing on the cake and not meant to replace dedicated training, a healthy and consistent diet along with proper rest.
If you are strict with your diet and workout/do cardio consistently you will be surprised how much just that will do for you. After you have those in order, if you get to a point where you're stuck, maybe try a supplement. Nothing is a miracle weight loss pill. They only work when paired with already good diet/training habits. Fundamentals first.
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If you want to lean up, maybe give some thought to cardio and a clean diet. Supplements are just that, supplements. They are the icing on the cake and not meant to replace dedicated training, a healthy and consistent diet along with proper rest.
If you are strict with your diet and workout/do cardio consistently you will be surprised how much just that will do for you. After you have those in order, if you get to a point where you're stuck, maybe try a supplement. Nothing is a miracle weight loss pill. They only work when paired with already good diet/training habits. Fundamentals first.
I still have the damn love handles and belly. That's all that I want to get rid of (and need help with from supplements) and once I'm down to a good body fat %, I'd like to start building muscle mass in my chest, arms, legs and of course the abs.
I still have the damn love handles and belly. That's all that I want to get rid of (and need help with from supplements) and once I'm down to a good body fat %, I'd like to start building muscle mass in my chest, arms, legs and of course the abs.
Well unfortunately you can't target body fat in a certain area. You lose it all over at the same time. Also unfortunately, on males, subcutaneous fat around the abdominal region is usually the last to go.
I still think you are underestimating what diet can do for you. You can easily get super lean without any supplements. It's just a matter of willpower and how far you are willing to take your diet. There are several options like Dave Palumbo's diet, which is basically a ketosis diet, carb cycling, etc. You say you are already following a strict diet. You may be eating healthier than you were, but I can guarantee if you posted your diet I could make it better.
Here is a good way to set up your macros and try to make your meals protein/carb or protein/fat. Don't eat carbs and fat together as they will just get stored as adipose tissue (fat) which is what we are trying to avoid.
For FAT LOSS:
* Total Daily Calories = Bodyweight times 12
this may need to be dropped to x11 or x10 if no progress after a few weeks
obese people can use LBM (lean body mass) instead of BW
* Protein = 1g per lb BW
(4 calories per gram)
can go up to 1.5g if desired
* Fat = .4-.5g per lb BW
(9 calories per gram)
yes, you read that right,healthy fats are important for fat loss
* Carbs = whatever remains to meet your calorie total
(4 calories per gram)
TO MAINTAIN WEIGHT
SAME FORMULA X 13-15 BW
First Step: Calculating Your Basal Metabolic Rate
Your basal metabolic rate (BMR) simply means the amount of energy used by your body during a 24-hour period if no activity is performed. In other words, if you're inactive for 24-hours straight, you'd still "burn" the amount of calories equivalent to your BMR.
Your BMR is a function of your size, sex, and age. It's also influenced by your metabolic status (hypo or hyperthyroid state for example). We can calculate BMR with the following formulas (by Harris-Benedict):
For Men
BMR = 66 + (13.7 x weight in kg) + (5 x height in cm) - (6.8 x age)
So for a 30 year old bodybuilder of 220lbs (100kg) at 5'11" (178cm) it comes up to:
BMR = 66 + (13.7 x 100kg) + (5 x 178cm) – (6.8 x 30)
BMR = 2122 calories per day
For Women
BMR = 655 + (9.6 x weight in kg) + (1.7 x height in cm) - (4.7 x age)
So for a 28 year old figure girl of 132lbs (60kg) at 5'6" (165cm) it comes up to:
BMR = 655 + (9.6 x 60kg) + (1.7 x 165cm) – (4.7 x 2
BMR = 1380 calories per day
Second Step: Factoring in activity level
The amount of calories found using the Harris-Benedict formula is what your body burns every day, even if you do nothing all day. Obviously, the more active you are the more you'll burn fuel. So, energy expenditure will be increased when your activity level goes up.
To get an adequate estimation you need to multiply your BMR by an activity level factor:
1.0 Sedentary
1.2 Very light activity
1.4 Light activity
1.6 Moderate activity
1.8 High activity
2.0 Extreme activity
By sedentary we mean doing nothing all day (sleeping and watching TV).
By very light activity we mean doing nothing physical. Working a desk job or on a computer and not performing any type of physical activity during your day.
By light activity we mean having a non-physical job (desk, computer, etc.) but performing some sort of physical activity during the day (e.g. above average walking) but no hard training.
By moderate activity we mean having a non-physical job, performing some sort of physical activity during the day, and including a daily workout session in your routine. This is where most of you are at.
By high activity we mean either training plus a physical job or non-physical job and twice-a-day training sessions.
By extreme activity we mean a very physical job and daily hard training.
So if our 220 pound bodybuilder with a BMR of 2122 calories/day is moderately active, his daily energy expenditure is bumped up to 2122 x 1.6 = 3395 calories per day. This is the amount of food to consume to maintain present body weight.
Third Step: Adjusting caloric intake to your goal
To gain muscle you should ingest more calories than you use up each day. To lose body fat you must do the opposite. A 20% increase or decrease seems to be ideal for most individuals. This isn't a drastic increase/decrease, so it shouldn't lead to excessive muscle loss or unwanted fat gain.
Our sample bodybuilder has a daily caloric expenditure of 3395kcals/day. If he wants to gain muscle mass he should bump his caloric intake up to 4074kcals/day. And if he wanted to lose fat he should decrease it to around 2716kcals/day on average.
Note that depending on your body type and metabolism, you may need to adjust these figures. Ectomorphs will need to increase caloric intake more than 20% to gain muscle maximally (around 30% is best for them) and they should decrease it less when trying to lose fat (by 10% instead of 20%). Endomorphs should only increase by 10% when trying to gain size, but lowering it by 20% is adequate for them when trying to lose fat.
For example, if our 220 pound bodybuilder is an endomorph he should ingest 3734kcals/day when trying to gain mass (instead of 4074kcals/day).
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Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. -Proverbs 27:6
Well unfortunately you can't target body fat in a certain area. You lose it all over at the same time. Also unfortunately, on males, subcutaneous fat around the abdominal region is usually the last to go.
I still think you are underestimating what diet can do for you. You can easily get super lean without any supplements. It's just a matter of willpower and how far you are willing to take your diet. There are several options like Dave Palumbo's diet, which is basically a ketosis diet, carb cycling, etc. You say you are already following a strict diet. You may be eating healthier than you were, but I can guarantee if you posted your diet I could make it better.
Here is a good way to set up your macros and try to make your meals protein/carb or protein/fat. Don't eat carbs and fat together as they will just get stored as adipose tissue (fat) which is what we are trying to avoid.
For FAT LOSS:
* Total Daily Calories = Bodyweight times 12
this may need to be dropped to x11 or x10 if no progress after a few weeks
obese people can use LBM (lean body mass) instead of BW
* Protein = 1g per lb BW
(4 calories per gram)
can go up to 1.5g if desired
* Fat = .4-.5g per lb BW
(9 calories per gram)
yes, you read that right,healthy fats are important for fat loss
* Carbs = whatever remains to meet your calorie total
(4 calories per gram)
TO MAINTAIN WEIGHT
SAME FORMULA X 13-15 BW
First Step: Calculating Your Basal Metabolic Rate
Your basal metabolic rate (BMR) simply means the amount of energy used by your body during a 24-hour period if no activity is performed. In other words, if you're inactive for 24-hours straight, you'd still "burn" the amount of calories equivalent to your BMR.
Your BMR is a function of your size, sex, and age. It's also influenced by your metabolic status (hypo or hyperthyroid state for example). We can calculate BMR with the following formulas (by Harris-Benedict):
For Men
BMR = 66 + (13.7 x weight in kg) + (5 x height in cm) - (6.8 x age)
So for a 30 year old bodybuilder of 220lbs (100kg) at 5'11" (178cm) it comes up to:
BMR = 66 + (13.7 x 100kg) + (5 x 178cm) – (6.8 x 30)
BMR = 2122 calories per day
For Women
BMR = 655 + (9.6 x weight in kg) + (1.7 x height in cm) - (4.7 x age)
So for a 28 year old figure girl of 132lbs (60kg) at 5'6" (165cm) it comes up to:
BMR = 655 + (9.6 x 60kg) + (1.7 x 165cm) – (4.7 x 2
BMR = 1380 calories per day
Second Step: Factoring in activity level
The amount of calories found using the Harris-Benedict formula is what your body burns every day, even if you do nothing all day. Obviously, the more active you are the more you'll burn fuel. So, energy expenditure will be increased when your activity level goes up.
To get an adequate estimation you need to multiply your BMR by an activity level factor:
1.0 Sedentary
1.2 Very light activity
1.4 Light activity
1.6 Moderate activity
1.8 High activity
2.0 Extreme activity
By sedentary we mean doing nothing all day (sleeping and watching TV).
By very light activity we mean doing nothing physical. Working a desk job or on a computer and not performing any type of physical activity during your day.
By light activity we mean having a non-physical job (desk, computer, etc.) but performing some sort of physical activity during the day (e.g. above average walking) but no hard training.
By moderate activity we mean having a non-physical job, performing some sort of physical activity during the day, and including a daily workout session in your routine. This is where most of you are at.
By high activity we mean either training plus a physical job or non-physical job and twice-a-day training sessions.
By extreme activity we mean a very physical job and daily hard training.
So if our 220 pound bodybuilder with a BMR of 2122 calories/day is moderately active, his daily energy expenditure is bumped up to 2122 x 1.6 = 3395 calories per day. This is the amount of food to consume to maintain present body weight.
Third Step: Adjusting caloric intake to your goal
To gain muscle you should ingest more calories than you use up each day. To lose body fat you must do the opposite. A 20% increase or decrease seems to be ideal for most individuals. This isn't a drastic increase/decrease, so it shouldn't lead to excessive muscle loss or unwanted fat gain.
Our sample bodybuilder has a daily caloric expenditure of 3395kcals/day. If he wants to gain muscle mass he should bump his caloric intake up to 4074kcals/day. And if he wanted to lose fat he should decrease it to around 2716kcals/day on average.
Note that depending on your body type and metabolism, you may need to adjust these figures. Ectomorphs will need to increase caloric intake more than 20% to gain muscle maximally (around 30% is best for them) and they should decrease it less when trying to lose fat (by 10% instead of 20%). Endomorphs should only increase by 10% when trying to gain size, but lowering it by 20% is adequate for them when trying to lose fat.
For example, if our 220 pound bodybuilder is an endomorph he should ingest 3734kcals/day when trying to gain mass (instead of 4074kcals/day).
i'm to lazy to count carbs and calories and such!!!
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I still have the damn love handles and belly. That's all that I want to get rid of (and need help with from supplements) and once I'm down to a good body fat %, I'd like to start building muscle mass in my chest, arms, legs and of course the abs.
I've actually heard good things about Lipoderm and Yohimburn. It's a topical gel to target fat loss on extremely stubborn areas. I've ordered some to try on my cut soon for some fat right on the lower outside of my pecs that doesn't seem to want to go away.
Just keep toning and lowering BF and you will see those areas tighten up. It took me until week 8 or so before I could even see the top of my abs. That's about the time when I started losing the accessory fat too.
i'm to lazy to count carbs and calories and such!!!
Awww, c'mon bro. LOL. It's not that hard. I keep some healthy foods in a list in Excel with their macros. I also have a few sample diets planned out that I keep in Excel also. After a while it gets really easy because you know what you should be eating and when you should be eating it, and by that point you should have enough grasp on the nutrition value of foods that you can pretty much eyeball your meals and get pretty close.
I'm sure it will fall on deaf ears because the supplements is the fast and easy way to get results, but supplements don't always work and aren't always healthy. Plus without an already good diet, even if some weigh is lost because of the supplement, chances are it will come right back much easier than if it was lost through hard work and diet.
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Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. -Proverbs 27:6
I've actually heard good things about Lipoderm and Yohimburn. It's a topical gel to target fat loss on extremely stubborn areas. I've ordered some to try on my cut soon for some fat right on the lower outside of my pecs that doesn't seem to want to go away.
Just keep toning and lowering BF and you will see those areas tighten up. It took me until week 8 or so before I could even see the top of my abs. That's about the time when I started losing the accessory fat too.
I can already feel it going away, the fat layer around my waist feels "thinner". And I had to get a new belt.
I also heard about the gel, but I didn't think it would work. Keep us updated?
Awww, c'mon bro. LOL. It's not that hard. I keep some healthy foods in a list in Excel with their macros. I also have a few sample diets planned out that I keep in Excel also. After a while it gets really easy because you know what you should be eating and when you should be eating it, and by that point you should have enough grasp on the nutrition value of foods that you can pretty much eyeball your meals and get pretty close.
I'm sure it will fall on deaf ears because the supplements is the fast and easy way to get results, but supplements don't always work and aren't always healthy. Plus without an already good diet, even if some weigh is lost because of the supplement, chances are it will come right back much easier than if it was lost through hard work and diet.
Well, I weigh about 200lbs so my diet would be slightly different than yours. My goals are also different as I'm trying to make slow, lean gains. But here is an idea if you want somewhere to start.
Training day and non training day diets should be different. Here is a sample of a training day diet for a 200 lbs man.
Training Day
Meal 1: 7:00 AM Preworkout
50 grams protein (whole foods) ex. rinsed ground beef, turkey, tuna, chicken, eggs, etc
75 grams carbs: medium to slow digesting (White Pasta, Yams, brown rice, ezekial bread, barley, pancakes, etc.)
you can throw a bit of fruit in here if you like..
Meal 3: Hour to Hour and a half after PWO
50g very lean protein: egg whites, tilapia, cod fish, 98% fat free ground turkey, etc
50-75g Complex carbs: yams, ezekial bread, brown rice, baked potato, etc.
Meal 4:
50g Protein (meat source) Chicken is good here
20-30g carbs: Salad.. try to keep olive oil light.. feel free to add fruit in salad if you like..
Meal 5:
50g Protein (meat source)
20-30g carbs: complex: brown rice, yams, beans, etc..
Meal 6:
50g Protein: Could throw another shake in here if ya like
1 TBSP Olive Oil, Walnut Oil, Coconut Oil, etc..
Meal 7:
50g Protein
Veggies: about 1 cup
Meal 8:
Rinsed ground beef: 75g protein last meal of day..
Here is a sample menu following the outline I posted above. I have included all macros just to keep track of calories, but when counting protein, only quality sources should be included. Don't count carbs sources (ie. pancakes, rice, etc.) as a source of protein. Meat, eggs, shakes are quality sources, you should be able to tell the difference.
I repeat, this diet it tailored for my body weight and my goals and will not work for you. I only posted to give you an idea of how to set up a diet. Your specific diet would be tailored for your body weight and your individual goals.
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Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. -Proverbs 27:6
Any input on iSatori's MX-LS7?
