Nissan 350Z Discussion forums, Photo Gallery and more...


Go Back   MY350Z.COM Forums > General > The Lounge (Off Topic) > Sports > Exercise & Fitness
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
MyG37.com | G35Driver.com | My350Z.com | ZDriver.com





Welcome to my350z.com!
Welcome to my350z.com.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!



View Poll Results: when do work out?
morning workout eat before 4 12.90%
morning workout eat after 7 22.58%
evening workout eat before 10 32.26%
evening workout eat after 10 32.26%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-07-2009, 10:53 AM   #1
bck2stkz
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Republic of Kalifornia
Posts: 144
iTrader: (7)
Points: 1,713, Level: 24
Points: 1,713, Level: 24 Points: 1,713, Level: 24 Points: 1,713, Level: 24
Today's Activity: 0%
Today's Activity: 0% Today's Activity: 0% Today's Activity: 0%
Default Morning or Evening Workouts?

what do you guys prefer morning or late night workouts? how many of you eat before you lift or hit the gym.

personally i hit the gym at 5:30am and cant eat anything before I work out or I get extremely sick. After my lifting sessions I do eat like I have never eaten before.
bck2stkz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2009, 11:26 AM   #2
The Captain
Registered User
 
The Captain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,235
iTrader: (3)
Default

I do mine right after work before I eat.

Same thing, I cannot eat before workout otherwise I'll feel ill. Can't drink too much water during either.
__________________
04.5 Silverstone Touring: MotorDyne - Berk - JWT - Borla - Falken - Seibon

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackie chan
You wouldn't know what the real issues were unless they were tattooed to a set of balls and slapping you in the forehead.
The Captain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2009, 01:19 PM   #3
All SmileZ
Registered User
 
All SmileZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chuck County, MD
Posts: 2,606
iTrader: (0)
Points: 5,554, Level: 48
Points: 5,554, Level: 48 Points: 5,554, Level: 48 Points: 5,554, Level: 48
Today's Activity: 0%
Today's Activity: 0% Today's Activity: 0% Today's Activity: 0%
Default

I too get up at 5:30 to do my routine in my basement (maybe get a 2-a-day a couple times a week w/ an afternoon bonus workout at work, if my schedule allows).

Everyone's work, living, and family situation is so different, but I can no longer rely on getting consistent workouts during my "lunch" at work. And it's difficult to find the time for squeezing it in once I commute home, do dinner w/ my family, and put my young son (and soon to arrive daughter) to bed.

So I'm up early too. Makes the most sense w/ my schedule. Has me feeling pretty charged for the rest of the day (or at least most of it). And it forces me to go to bed at a halfway decent time!
All SmileZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2009, 02:45 PM   #4
2fast4ya
Registered User

 
2fast4ya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Haines City, Fl
Posts: 633
iTrader: (21)
Points: 2,364, Level: 29
Points: 2,364, Level: 29 Points: 2,364, Level: 29 Points: 2,364, Level: 29
Today's Activity: 0.4%
Today's Activity: 0.4% Today's Activity: 0.4% Today's Activity: 0.4%
Default

work about 11-12 hr day go straight from work to gym(about 8-9 mile drive)eat snack before workout and hydrate before and during exercise, take pre-workout supplement, work out for about 1 1/2 - 2hrs drive home about 35-40 miles, eat protein bar usually toward end of workout and during drive home, get home get shower and clean up-have protein shake and go to bed. do this 3 days a week M W F
__________________
Z is gone, all 3 motorcycles are gone, scooter is gone, and Caliber SRT-4 and Forte Koup SX are here, yamaha fz8 coming soon!
2fast4ya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2009, 02:55 PM   #5
crg914
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NC
Posts: 1,662
iTrader: (4)
Points: 3,192, Level: 34
Points: 3,192, Level: 34 Points: 3,192, Level: 34 Points: 3,192, Level: 34
Today's Activity: 0.8%
Today's Activity: 0.8% Today's Activity: 0.8% Today's Activity: 0.8%
Default

It's really not a great idea to lift weights on an empty stomach. The glycogen stores in your muscles will be quickly depleted and your body will have to synthesize glucose from protein which means wasting muscle for energy. Your cortisol levels will also get higher faster which is also counterproductive for muscle growth. I wake up and eat a big breakfast at 7am. About 50g protein and about 80-90g complex carbs and hit the gym about 1 hour to 1 hour and a half later.

As far as the morning versus night debate. I remember seeing studies showing that natural testosterone levels are higher in the morning which could be a benefit. At the same time I've read that working out at night keeps your metabolism going when it would normally be winding down. So I would say it's probably a wash. Whichever time period fits your schedule is what I would do.
__________________
Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. -Proverbs 27:6
crg914 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2009, 03:01 PM   #6
quiksilver38
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Chico/ East Bay Area
Posts: 2,066
iTrader: (0)
Points: 2,316, Level: 29
Points: 2,316, Level: 29 Points: 2,316, Level: 29 Points: 2,316, Level: 29
Today's Activity: 9.4%
Today's Activity: 9.4% Today's Activity: 9.4% Today's Activity: 9.4%
Default

i eat, then wait 30min-1 hour before workout then bang over the the yim and drink a NOS power shot and SHAZAM game over!
quiksilver38 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2009, 04:22 PM   #7
TYEster
Registered User
 
TYEster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Kyle, TX
Posts: 90
iTrader: (0)
Default

Midday is actually best for me, but I chose "after eating AM" since it's the closest.
TYEster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2009, 04:23 PM   #8
bck2stkz
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Republic of Kalifornia
Posts: 144
iTrader: (7)
Points: 1,713, Level: 24
Points: 1,713, Level: 24 Points: 1,713, Level: 24 Points: 1,713, Level: 24
Today's Activity: 0%
Today's Activity: 0% Today's Activity: 0% Today's Activity: 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by crg914 View Post
It's really not a great idea to lift weights on an empty stomach. The glycogen stores in your muscles will be quickly depleted and your body will have to synthesize glucose from protein which means wasting muscle for energy. Your cortisol levels will also get higher faster which is also counterproductive for muscle growth. I wake up and eat a big breakfast at 7am. About 50g protein and about 80-90g complex carbs and hit the gym about 1 hour to 1 hour and a half later.
interesting..... but its really hard for me to eat that early(trust me I've tried but 9/10 times i just ending up getting nausea and cant work out)
in the morning and unfortunetly its the only real time I can make it to the gym because of work and spending time at home with the wife and kids any suggestions on what can be done?
bck2stkz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2009, 04:34 PM   #9
crg914
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NC
Posts: 1,662
iTrader: (4)
Points: 3,192, Level: 34
Points: 3,192, Level: 34 Points: 3,192, Level: 34 Points: 3,192, Level: 34
Today's Activity: 0.8%
Today's Activity: 0.8% Today's Activity: 0.8% Today's Activity: 0.8%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bck2stkz View Post
interesting..... but its really hard for me to eat that early(trust me I've tried but 9/10 times i just ending up getting nausea and cant work out)
in the morning and unfortunetly its the only real time I can make it to the gym because of work and spending time at home with the wife and kids any suggestions on what can be done?
Well I would try going to bed earlier and waking up earlier in order to eat before working out. If you really can't do that, the next best option is to find another time of the day to work out. If that's really not an option either, then on days before you train, make your last meal one consisting of protein and a complex carb, that could provide some energy for your workout since you train so early in the morning. Either that, or if you wake up in the middle of the night and eat something but that may be more inconvenient.

Low intensity cardio is great to do on an empty stomach because it's not muscle intensive so your body doesn't pull from your glycogen stores for energy as much. As such, it's good for getting lean because you're not using food for energy.

The problem with training on an empty stomach is for the reasons I posted above you will most likely make minimal progress and reach a plateau much earlier. Breaking through that plateau will also be more difficult. 80% of everything is diet, and without the right foods at the right times your body will not be able to respond, recover, and adapt as well as it could if everything was right.
__________________
Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. -Proverbs 27:6
crg914 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2009, 05:25 PM   #10
TheHulk
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: washington
Posts: 448
iTrader: (0)
Points: 2,424, Level: 29
Points: 2,424, Level: 29 Points: 2,424, Level: 29 Points: 2,424, Level: 29
Today's Activity: 0.7%
Today's Activity: 0.7% Today's Activity: 0.7% Today's Activity: 0.7%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by crg914 View Post
As far as the morning versus night debate. I remember seeing studies showing that natural testosterone levels are higher in the morning which could be a benefit. At the same time I've read that working out at night keeps your metabolism going when it would normally be winding down. So I would say it's probably a wash. Whichever time period fits your schedule is what I would do.
actually in the morning cortisol levels spike upon wakeup. free testosterone and energy are at its highest at 6pm. or 3/4 through the day depending if you sleep during the day and work at night..etc, etc.
__________________
I think then you should just blow it all over her... I refer to it as giving a booyah.
TheHulk is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2009, 06:20 PM   #11
crg914
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NC
Posts: 1,662
iTrader: (4)
Points: 3,192, Level: 34
Points: 3,192, Level: 34 Points: 3,192, Level: 34 Points: 3,192, Level: 34
Today's Activity: 0.8%
Today's Activity: 0.8% Today's Activity: 0.8% Today's Activity: 0.8%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHulk View Post
actually in the morning cortisol levels spike upon wakeup. free testosterone and energy are at its highest at 6pm. or 3/4 through the day depending if you sleep during the day and work at night..etc, etc.
That's contradictory to what I've read. Do you have any links to studies to verify this? I have no problem being corrected
__________________
Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. -Proverbs 27:6
crg914 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 07:12 AM   #12
crg914
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NC
Posts: 1,662
iTrader: (4)
Points: 3,192, Level: 34
Points: 3,192, Level: 34 Points: 3,192, Level: 34 Points: 3,192, Level: 34
Today's Activity: 0.8%
Today's Activity: 0.8% Today's Activity: 0.8% Today's Activity: 0.8%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHulk View Post
actually in the morning cortisol levels spike upon wakeup. free testosterone and energy are at its highest at 6pm. or 3/4 through the day depending if you sleep during the day and work at night..etc, etc.
Second paragraph

Link

Last line of the third paragraph

Link

Page 314, paragraph that begins with "What's Normal?"

Link

These three sources that support my statement that free testosterone is highest in the morning. The last one even puts a time on it, (8am), while it also states that it is lowest at night (9pm).

If you have anything to back up your statement I would love to read it.
__________________
Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. -Proverbs 27:6
crg914 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 10:57 AM   #13
bck2stkz
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Republic of Kalifornia
Posts: 144
iTrader: (7)
Points: 1,713, Level: 24
Points: 1,713, Level: 24 Points: 1,713, Level: 24 Points: 1,713, Level: 24
Today's Activity: 0%
Today's Activity: 0% Today's Activity: 0% Today's Activity: 0%
Default

^^^ so my work out time is in a good slot for what my schedule allows, now I just need to figure out how to get some clean carbs in before my work out.

what if I dont feel tired, hungry, or exhausted during my workout? cause I rarely get hungry during my work outs and if I do I always have a banana and granola bar in my gym bag that I can eat.
bck2stkz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 11:08 AM   #14
Spork
BRAH


 
Spork's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Land of Squinty Br0s
Posts: 26,806
iTrader: (6)
Silverstone-Z
Points: 13,657, Level: 76
Points: 13,657, Level: 76 Points: 13,657, Level: 76 Points: 13,657, Level: 76
Today's Activity: 49.6%
Today's Activity: 49.6% Today's Activity: 49.6% Today's Activity: 49.6%
Send a message via AIM to Spork
Default

am before eating
__________________
A car doesn't have to be loud to be fast
Spork is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 11:11 AM   #15
The Captain
Registered User
 
The Captain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,235
iTrader: (3)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bck2stkz View Post
^^^ so my work out time is in a good slot for what my schedule allows, now I just need to figure out how to get some clean carbs in before my work out.
Oats

They are carbs and most of it is all dietary fiber.
__________________
04.5 Silverstone Touring: MotorDyne - Berk - JWT - Borla - Falken - Seibon

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackie chan
You wouldn't know what the real issues were unless they were tattooed to a set of balls and slapping you in the forehead.
The Captain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 11:19 AM   #16
crg914
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NC
Posts: 1,662
iTrader: (4)
Points: 3,192, Level: 34
Points: 3,192, Level: 34 Points: 3,192, Level: 34 Points: 3,192, Level: 34
Today's Activity: 0.8%
Today's Activity: 0.8% Today's Activity: 0.8% Today's Activity: 0.8%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bck2stkz View Post
^^^ so my work out time is in a good slot for what my schedule allows, now I just need to figure out how to get some clean carbs in before my work out.

what if I dont feel tired, hungry, or exhausted during my workout? cause I rarely get hungry during my work outs and if I do I always have a banana and granola bar in my gym bag that I can eat.
Like The Captain said, oats are great. Bananas are not a great choice because the carbs in fruit replenish glycogen stores in the liver, not in the muscle. A better choice would be oats, barley, pancakes, etc.

You don't feel tired because your body is used to having to work out without food. It has adapted to those conditions. Your body is smarter than you are and will adapt to just about anything you throw at it. I guarantee if you start eating before you work out, after a while you won't know how you ever did it any other way.
__________________
Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. -Proverbs 27:6
crg914 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 11:24 AM   #17
bck2stkz
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Republic of Kalifornia
Posts: 144
iTrader: (7)
Points: 1,713, Level: 24
Points: 1,713, Level: 24 Points: 1,713, Level: 24 Points: 1,713, Level: 24
Today's Activity: 0%
Today's Activity: 0% Today's Activity: 0% Today's Activity: 0%
Default

^^^ makes perfect sense, I will try to get a small bowl of oatmeal in before my workouts might start with small portions about 30 min before my work out and see how that goes.
bck2stkz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 11:36 AM   #18
crg914
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NC
Posts: 1,662
iTrader: (4)
Points: 3,192, Level: 34
Points: 3,192, Level: 34 Points: 3,192, Level: 34 Points: 3,192, Level: 34
Today's Activity: 0.8%
Today's Activity: 0.8% Today's Activity: 0.8% Today's Activity: 0.8%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bck2stkz View Post
^^^ makes perfect sense, I will try to get a small bowl of oatmeal in before my workouts might start with small portions about 30 min before my work out and see how that goes.
Good plan. Baby steps are the key. Good luck
__________________
Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. -Proverbs 27:6
crg914 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 11:51 AM   #19
GXCLUSIV
Gymrats G35 TT
 
GXCLUSIV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,037
iTrader: (1)
Points: 3,091, Level: 34
Points: 3,091, Level: 34 Points: 3,091, Level: 34 Points: 3,091, Level: 34
Today's Activity: 3.8%
Today's Activity: 3.8% Today's Activity: 3.8% Today's Activity: 3.8%
Default

My best workouts was when I trained around 7am many years back. Most guys do have more testosterone in the early morning, probably why most wake up with a boner. Visit your local Golds Gym and Powerhouse gym at around 5-6am. The serious hardcore lifters are there.
__________________
04.5 OB 5AT, Prem/Nav | SFR 60-1 ball bearing TwinTurbo, 417rwp@7.5psi | stock VQ, SFR rebuilt tranny (VB,TC,Clutchpack) | Autometer Nexus | Innovate a/f | 20" DPE R07 v.S, | Full KenStyle bodykit with Ings+1 Fenders | Seibon TS CF hood | Bats GTR Overlays | HKS high-power TI exhaust | AirRunner air-ride Suspension/Dakota digital | Eclipse avn5435/ CDT es643 components.
GXCLUSIV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 01:26 PM   #20
TheHulk
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: washington
Posts: 448
iTrader: (0)
Points: 2,424, Level: 29
Points: 2,424, Level: 29 Points: 2,424, Level: 29 Points: 2,424, Level: 29
Today's Activity: 0.7%
Today's Activity: 0.7% Today's Activity: 0.7% Today's Activity: 0.7%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by crg914 View Post
Second paragraph

Link

Last line of the third paragraph

Link

Page 314, paragraph that begins with "What's Normal?"

Link

These three sources that support my statement that free testosterone is highest in the morning. The last one even puts a time on it, (8am), while it also states that it is lowest at night (9pm).

If you have anything to back up your statement I would love to read it.

sorry for not throwing out the backup on the facts. i like to be lazy and just say things hoping no one decides to call BS. here yah go

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/c.../view/1462/51/

and i have several other sources that claim the same thing but it just seems redundant to quote 10 billion studies. most guys i see training to get there pro card generally train in the afternoon...but then again they dont exactly have to worry about not having enough test.

Key Points:

 Maximal strength is best achieved in the afternoon compared to the morning.
 Maximal strength has been casually correlated with body temperature which peaks in the afternoon which may have a “pre-warm” up effect on muscle which may enhance force production.
 Interleukin-6, tumor necrosis factor, and cortisol all have diurnal variations which are higher in the morning compared to the afternoon which may have a unfavorable training effect
__________________
I think then you should just blow it all over her... I refer to it as giving a booyah.
TheHulk is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2009, 01:26 PM
My350Z
350 Z




Paid Advertisement
 
 
 
Reply

Tags
adapt, body, drinking, evening, morning, versus, water, workout, workouts



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

ADVERTISING
INSURANCE CENTER

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:34 PM.

Advertise on MY350Z.COM - MY350Z.COM - Archive - Top

Advertise on MY350Z.COM - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy - Jobs
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
Copyright ©2002 - 2008, MY350Z.COM All Rights Reserved.

Admin control Panel Backup