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Hey Guys,
So during this morning's workout, which consisted of 30 minutes of 10 curcuit stations, i started to have this splitting headache right after the fourth station. As I continued to exercise through station 6 (roughly 8 mins in,) the pain became so intense that i had to stop for apporx 3-5 minutes to recover.
During this time, any type of movement exacerbated the pain. I couldn't even keep my eyes open. After the 3-5 min of rest i tried to walk it off for about 2-3 min (between stations) and downed about .5 liters of water. I then attempted to finish my workout.
The pain subsided enough to where i was able to continue, but was still present for the rest of the workout. I can still feel a little pressure now, an hour later. However, it has been progressively improving.
Pre workout, i had about .5 liters of water and an apple. I stretched/warmed up for about 15mins prior to beginning the workout. Post workout (apporx. 30 minutes after) I had 3 hard-boiled egg whites and 2 pieces of turkey bacon. I had been taking in fluids all day before, which was a rest day. My diet pretty much consists of proteins nad complex carbs/sugars. Simple carbs/sugars are just on the weekends, and kept at a minimal.
I have never experienced anything like this before. But, one thing's for sure, I want to do everything possible to avoid this from happening again. This may be more information than needed to answer my question, but I wanted to make sure I didn't leave anything out to eliminate possibile explanations. Any help on this wold be greatly appreciated. Thnaks in advance!
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Does your neck hurt or do you have any extreme tension in your neck area? I've had what you've described happen before and a visit to my chiropractor usually fixes the issue. At least until I do something stupid to pop it out again.
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Now that you mention it, I did have some neck pain about a week and a half ago. Do you think that could be the issue even if the neck pain is gone? Either way I will def look into that. Thanks a lot! Any other opinions?
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A lot of times when you have a subluxation (vertabrae going out of alignment) it will hurt a lot a first and subside. The subluxation is still there, but the pain isn't. The problem still needs to be fixed or it will flair again, or as it seems in your case, causes other issues.
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I would recommend that you go see a doctor, not a chiropractor. The doctor may very well recommend/prescribe chiropractic care and make a referral. On the other hand, what chiropractor diagnoses non-chiropractic issues and refers you to the correct physician? None.
Keep a headache journal with information similar to what you just wrote, but include additional information, such as:
* The days and times your headaches occur
* How long the headaches last
* What you were doing before each headache began
* What you ate or drank before each headache began
* Any treatments you've used, including prescription drugs, over-the-counter medications, herbal remedies or other treatments
* The severity and location of the pain
* Other symptoms, such as nausea or stomach upset, auras or other visual symptoms
* The impact the headaches have had on your life, such as days lost from work, missed family events, etc.
Take this to your doctor. If it was only this one headache, it may be very difficult to diagnose the cause, now that it is gone. If it occurs again, the journal may give you hints about the cause.
BTW, any chance you snore in your sleep?
I have had great success seeing an internist (internal medicine doctor). That may be a good place to start.
Good luck. I hope it was a fluke.
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I would recommend that you go see a doctor, not a chiropractor. The doctor may very well recommend/prescribe chiropractic care and make a referral. On the other hand, what chiropractor diagnoses non-chiropractic issues and refers you to the correct physician? None.
Keep a headache journal with information similar to what you just wrote, but include additional information, such as:
* The days and times your headaches occur
* How long the headaches last
* What you were doing before each headache began
* What you ate or drank before each headache began
* Any treatments you've used, including prescription drugs, over-the-counter medications, herbal remedies or other treatments
* The severity and location of the pain
* Other symptoms, such as nausea or stomach upset, auras or other visual symptoms
* The impact the headaches have had on your life, such as days lost from work, missed family events, etc.
Take this to your doctor. If it was only this one headache, it may be very difficult to diagnose the cause, now that it is gone. If it occurs again, the journal may give you hints about the cause.
BTW, any chance you snore in your sleep?
I have had great success seeing an internist (internal medicine doctor). That may be a good place to start.
Good luck. I hope it was a fluke.
While I appreciate your methodical approach, your original statement is so completely backwards. Very few doctors will EVER send you to a chiropractor because they are viewed as quacks. They'd rather prescribe medicines and treatments and therapy that only mask the very simple issues causing the headaches or other pains. Chiropractors will send you to a doctor if they deem it's not something that they can treat.The medical community as a whole does a very good job of treating the symptom and not the cause. Obviously it's the OP's choice what he does, but your first statement is completely off-base.
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While I appreciate your methodical approach, your original statement is so completely backwards. Very few doctors will EVER send you to a chiropractor because they are viewed as quacks. They'd rather prescribe medicines and treatments and therapy that only mask the very simple issues causing the headaches or other pains. Chiropractors will send you to a doctor if they deem it's not something that they can treat.The medical community as a whole does a very good job of treating the symptom and not the cause. Obviously it's the OP's choice what he does, but your first statement is completely off-base.
Possibly, you are speaking from a specific experience and I'm speaking from another. My best friend from middle school through college is a chiropractor. While he is very good, I don't believe he would be qualified to look at MRI, CT Scan, blood work, and other diagnostics that my Internist did. If the problem is not related to his alignment, then he starts over. A doctor can diagnose specifically what the cause is (most of the time) and then you can seek the appropriate treatment, instead of just guessing and trying each thing individually.
My doctor specifically asked me if I had tried chiropractic. If I had not, he recommended it. Maybe my doctor is more open since he tends not to prescribe medicine and doesn't try to mask problems, but tries to find the root cause and fix it. With me, my migraines are caused mostly by sleep apnea. He referred me to other providers for sleep testing and treatment. I am down from 5-6/week to 5-10/month now after only 3 months! He never prescribed any medicine for me, even though I wanted something for the migraines. I'm glad I am treating the cause and not just the effects.
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While I appreciate your methodical approach, your original statement is so completely backwards. Very few doctors will EVER send you to a chiropractor because they are viewed as quacks. They'd rather prescribe medicines and treatments and therapy that only mask the very simple issues causing the headaches or other pains. Chiropractors will send you to a doctor if they deem it's not something that they can treat.The medical community as a whole does a very good job of treating the symptom and not the cause. Obviously it's the OP's choice what he does, but your first statement is completely off-base.
+1, I've had so many incidents when that's all the doctors do is write you a prescription and send you on your way when in reality it fixed nothing.
Crazy how some doctors just push the cause aside..
Possibly, you are speaking from a specific experience and I'm speaking from another. My best friend from middle school through college is a chiropractor. While he is very good, I don't believe he would be qualified to look at MRI, CT Scan, blood work, and other diagnostics that my Internist did. If the problem is not related to his alignment, then he starts over. A doctor can diagnose specifically what the cause is (most of the time) and then you can seek the appropriate treatment, instead of just guessing and trying each thing individually.
My doctor specifically asked me if I had tried chiropractic. If I had not, he recommended it. Maybe my doctor is more open since he tends not to prescribe medicine and doesn't try to mask problems, but tries to find the root cause and fix it. With me, my migraines are caused mostly by sleep apnea. He referred me to other providers for sleep testing and treatment. I am down from 5-6/week to 5-10/month now after only 3 months! He never prescribed any medicine for me, even though I wanted something for the migraines. I'm glad I am treating the cause and not just the effects.
I think you will find instances of both cases.. I know I've had both.
Guess it all boils down to finding either a doctor or chiropractor that is out to actually doing their job...
Possibly, you are speaking from a specific experience and I'm speaking from another. My best friend from middle school through college is a chiropractor. While he is very good, I don't believe he would be qualified to look at MRI, CT Scan, blood work, and other diagnostics that my Internist did. If the problem is not related to his alignment, then he starts over. A doctor can diagnose specifically what the cause is (most of the time) and then you can seek the appropriate treatment, instead of just guessing and trying each thing individually.
My doctor specifically asked me if I had tried chiropractic. If I had not, he recommended it. Maybe my doctor is more open since he tends not to prescribe medicine and doesn't try to mask problems, but tries to find the root cause and fix it. With me, my migraines are caused mostly by sleep apnea. He referred me to other providers for sleep testing and treatment. I am down from 5-6/week to 5-10/month now after only 3 months! He never prescribed any medicine for me, even though I wanted something for the migraines. I'm glad I am treating the cause and not just the effects.
Sounds like you have a rare doctor. Possibly a younger one. I know a lot of the "old guard" of doctoring are pretty resistant to Chiropractors. Unfortunately, it's hard sometimes to find a quality doctor or chiropractor.
I wish I could goto the first chiropractor that I had years ago. The first thing he told me was, "I'll look at your Xray and if I find a problem, I'll refer you to a neurosurgeon. He also diagnosed an ulcer on anther patient that no less than 5 MDs had missed. The MDs told him that he had a bad back so he went to this chiropractor. The chiropractor told him that he didn't have a bad back, that he had an ulcer on the back of his stomach. This was after looking at the same Xrays that the doctors had looked at. He went back to one of the doctors and they confirmed it.
I love to hear that there are doctors out there that are more reluctant to prescribe drugs. I'm of the opinion that a pretty huge percentage of our "ills" today are caused by overmedication and the fact that people seem to "want" to be sick. I've mentioned having a headache or some other minor little issue to one of my friends and her first response is, "You'd better go to the doctor".
On another note about your sleep apnea, I bought an anti-snore shirt that has helped me greatly. It is just a t-shirt with three pouches in the back that hold hard foam cylinders that keep you on your side. It has helped me drastically. Hasn't eliminated the issues completely, but I sleep a whole lot better. Of course, you kind of feel like a fish out of water when you try to get out of bed. I only use one cylinder in the middle because I couldn't move with all 3. Thought you might be interested in it.
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While I appreciate your methodical approach, your original statement is so completely backwards. Very few doctors will EVER send you to a chiropractor because they are viewed as quacks. They'd rather prescribe medicines and treatments and therapy that only mask the very simple issues causing the headaches or other pains. Chiropractors will send you to a doctor if they deem it's not something that they can treat. The medical community as a whole does a very good job of treating the symptom and not the cause. Obviously it's the OP's choice what he does, but your first statement is completely off-base.
Sounds like you and Godzilla have seen poor doctors in the past. Gotta find better ones.
The bolded statements are rather offensive to anyone with a medical doctorate. We've trained and spent sleepless nights just to diagnose disease, treat it when/if possible, palliate when not.
How is removing a tumor or detecting demyelinating disease not addressing the cause? Further, not all disease entities even have a "cure".
To suggest we're just pill-pushers and would prefer to "mask" "very simple issues" is mildly (if not wholly) insulting. A tinfoil hat would have you further believe that we're part of some government or pharmaceutical conspiracy to make money for the drug companies.
I've sent patients to chiropractors for manipulations. Sometimes the pathology is structural/post-traumatic, and only orthopedics can surgically correct the defect. In that scenario, it's the chiropractor who's simply treating the symptom and not the underlying cause.
OP, mrg1981 has written the best approach. He has covered the main domains we would teach even the most preliminary medical students to obtain on a standard medical history: location, duration, severity, context, timing, associated signs/symptoms, modifying factors.
Sorry for offending you, but even in my profession, I deal all day long with "sheep". Sheep that do something just "because someone else told them to do that" even though it makes no sense and they can't give a valid reason why they do what they do. You can't tell me that the large percentage of your colleagues are out to look for the solution to the problem rather than prescribing the standard treatement of the day. I tend to have the "Patch Adams" philosophy to everything that I do in life. Whether it be my job, my medical treatments or my car repairs. I'm tired of going to my doctor and getting prescribed a medicine because "something might happen" in the future.
Not to be rude, but to take offense at what I said shows a serious level of pride that will keep you from properly diagnosing your patients. When someone points out a flaw with what I am doing, it ticks me off, embarasses me, but in the end, I have to look at it to see how much truth there is in their statement. I stand by my statement that most of the medical community is drug obsessed. You may be an exception to that statement. If you are, I applaud you vigorously and on my feet. More people need to step back and evaluate "what they have been told" and see if it is valid for the best solution. Whether it be in medicine, computers, garbage collecion or tree-trimming. I've had to set up practices in my position because people are just too frickin' lazy and compliant to come up with a better solution.
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Sorry for offending you, but even in my profession, I deal all day long with "sheep". Sheep that do something just "because someone else told them to do that" even though it makes no sense and they can't give a valid reason why they do what they do. You can't tell me that the large percentage of your colleagues are out to look for the solution to the problem rather than prescribing the standard treatement of the day. I tend to have the "Patch Adams" philosophy to everything that I do in life. Whether it be my job, my medical treatments or my car repairs. I'm tired of going to my doctor and getting prescribed a medicine because "something might happen" in the future.
Not to be rude, but to take offense at what I said shows a serious level of pride that will keep you from properly diagnosing your patients. When someone points out a flaw with what I am doing, it ticks me off, embarasses me, but in the end, I have to look at it to see how much truth there is in their statement. I stand by my statement that most of the medical community is drug obsessed. You may be an exception to that statement. If you are, I applaud you vigorously and on my feet. More people need to step back and evaluate "what they have been told" and see if it is valid for the best solution. Whether it be in medicine, computers, garbage collecion or tree-trimming. I've had to set up practices in my position because people are just too frickin' lazy and compliant to come up with a better solution.
Actually, intentional or not, that was rude. And rather presumptuous, right? I mean, you have no idea what my medical training is (premed, med, residency, etc). I don't think you are qualified to judge another's diagnostic capabilities based on what you perceive to be "pride" from one post.
Further, it is not "pride" that spurs me to clarify misconceptions. If you re-read your previous statements that I had bolded in my last post, and then read the overabundance of research out there, can you honestly state that medicine is not interested in finding answers/root causes?
Stepping back and re-evaluating to see if there was any truth to your statements, I can conclude that it's inaccurate/unfair to make such claims, given the enormous amount of funds devoted to research.
Re: over-prescribing meds, not all medicine is pharm-based (i.e. surgery/surgical subs...they'll laugh if you call them "drug-obsessed"). But some meds work for a reason. If the right condition calls for it, it's the right solution. Does that make everyone over-eager, drug-obsessed pushers?
As for my colleagues (since you did ask), we're teachers. We engage in academic medicine. We train student "sheep" as well as intern/resident "sheep", and in a teaching hospital, this equates to evidence-based medicine/practice which, by definition, lends itself to "self-evaluation" and periodic "re-evaluation" as information and science advance.
Your blanket statements oversimplify an entire, complex field, and you are suggesting that doctors are either lazy or incompetent or only interested in selling drugs without finding a permanent solution. Don't get me wrong. There are those doctors, too, and maybe they're the only ones you know.
But can you see how this can be taken not-too-kindly by the conscientious practitioner without labeling that person as a "proud and therefore impaired doctor"? I've told both colleagues and patients/families that I'm "not sure" or "don't know" when I don't, and I've never promised to have all the right solutions/answers. I can do without a pat on the back or vigorous applause. Just trying to help people, that's all.
I was able to see a doc about it yesterday, which was the 10th consecutive day of my headaches. They want to give me an MRI as a precaution and to help pinpoint the cause. I will be going back for that on the 8th of this month. until then, the doc doesn't want me to do any type of exercise. This sucks. I hope nothing serious comes of the MRI.
As for headaches, they seem to have subsided since i stopped exercising. One thing to note that was very unusual to me however, was my blood pressure was ridiculously high, like 158/48!! I did walk to the hospital from my office, ~.25 miles. Right before I went, I was moving desks/office furniture for about an hour. I also took 2 Hydroxycut tablets that morning before the gym. Not sure if all this could factor into my BP being that high, but once again I'm just running through the facts.
My blood pressure was fine when i went in for my military physical (PHA) back in May of this year. Back then I wasn't working out frequently, drinking more, and eating very sloppy. Why has my blood pressure spiked up so high after making improvements in these areas of my life? I'm 23 BTW.
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I did walk to the hospital from my office, ~.25 miles. Right before I went, I was moving desks/office furniture for about an hour. I also took 2 Hydroxycut tablets that morning before the gym. Not sure if all this could factor into my BP being that high, but once again I'm just running through the facts.
