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No point in having a pistol w/o the stopping power.
I love my G30
It has 10+1 rounds of .45ACP and it really very compact. I could put it in my baggy jeans front pocket if I was stupid enough to do something like that. Oh, and with the pinkie rest on the mag, this gun fits perfectly in my hand and is very easy and fun to shoot too!
are you looking to buy, JCN? There are tons nicer guns out there than the Glock. But for your buck, there aren't any that give you more ruggedness and dependability and shootability I think.
there is no correct advice for this question. amazingly, i also can't tell someone what toilet paper they would prefer to be wiped across their anus. anyone should go with what they have shot and feel comfortable with. if you don't know the answer to that, they rent everything they sell.
.40 S&W is a VERY good caliber. I guess the size of the hole would be different . the .40 might be a little smoother to shoot and cheaper to buy too.
There are super expensive really nice custom shooting pistols, like Kimber and such. There are also very nice tactical pistols like the USP and some Sigs, but honestly, I think alot of guys would take a Glock almost as fast as they would pick a Sig or the H&K. Almost...
.40 is good as long as you don't shoot for fun, the rounds are expensive. .40 is however a bit cheaper to get into.
although i don't chamber until ready to kill, here's something to think about: glocks have a "trigger safety". the sole purpose is preventing accidental discharge while un-holstering. like, in case you grab the trigger while pulling it out of your pocket like a dumbish. glocks don't have a ture safety.
h&k and sig have no safety. round is chambered, it's firing if the trigger is pulled.
s&w has true safety switch. also can't be fired without clip, even if on "fire"...you can physically see from 15 feet that it can't be fired if you have left the clip out in storage.
...and then of course there are other factors like the wieght of the pistol is relative to it's recoil, and therefore also relative to accuracy during rapid-fire situations.
glocks are designed for lightness, specifically for people that have concealed weapons permits.
if you are not going to carry it on your person, IMO glock is the incorrect choice.
Originally posted by sausage5000 although i don't chamber until ready to kill, here's something to think about:
then i assume that you dont do concealed carry. if you did you would know carrying a pistol not ready to roll is a big no no. you will get yourself killed before you can rack the slide and pull the trigger (if you can even manage to aim).
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glocks have a "trigger safety". the sole purpose is preventing accidental discharge while un-holstering. like, in case you grab the trigger while pulling it out of your pocket like a dumbish. glocks don't have a ture safety.
once again you dont know what you are talking about. glocks have 3 safties, two intenral and one external. BTW if anyone puts their finger anywhere near the trigger before they are ready to fire then they need to go back and get more training before owning a pistol.
also HK and sigs both have external safeties. i own a HK USP 45 and it has a selectable safety with a de-cock. get your facts straight before you start talking please.
here's the main question. what do you want to use this pistol for? from there i can tell you what you need to get (caliber wise) and what to try out (type wise).
also recoil is not always relative to weight, spring stiffness and buffers can go a long way to reduce felt recoil.
no, i don't carry weapons on my person. i agree fully on having a round chambered, especially if you feel the need to carry.
glocks don't have, as you put it for the h&k, a selectable safety... that's what i meant. the 4 different times i have fired over 50 rounds from two glocks, the only "safety" i see is on the trigger. pull the trigger with a round in chamber, it fires. no real visible or useable safeties.
h&ks have a de-cocker, yes. maybe my understanding was off on that weapon. it has been years since i have fired one.
sure, whatever else can help re-coil, but that does not mean that weight is not still relative. it's possibly related to my perception, but i like the feel of my s&w much more than a glock.
...and i think before you try to make someone look stupid, you should be more clear. your model h&k has a safety, but many h&ks don't. i must have fired a model with just a de-cocker. thanks for trying though.
Variants I and 2 allow the user to carry the pistol in a single-action mode (cocked and locked) with the manual safety engaged. This same pistol, without modification, can be carried in double-action mode, with or without the manual safety engaged. Variants 3 and 4 provide the user with a frame-mounted decocking lever that does not have the "safe" position. This combination only allows the hammer to be lowered from SA position to DA position. It does not provide the "safe" position to prevent the pistol from firing when the trigger is pulled.
Last edited by sausage5000; 09-23-2004 at 02:51 PM.
Sig isthe way to go. .40 calis allyou need. Bullet placment is where its at. Springfield XD is a greatpistol for the money. Have 3 Glocks myself. Nice pistol also.
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Glocks, by virtue of their "Safe Action" design, are made for experienced shooters. Carrying a Glock with a round in the chamber is akin to carring a 1911-type pistol "cocked and locked". The only time an accidental discharge will occur with a Glock is if you inadvertantly place your finger on the trigger and pull it. That being said, if you're in the market for a Glock I'd strongly consider the mid-sized G23 (.40) or G19 (9mm). These guns are big enough to get all of your fingers around the grip for decent control, and small enough for concealment.
The HK, Sig, and S&W double-action autos are all solid guns. Even though the Sigs (and some HKs ) don't have external safeties, they require a longer first pull of the trigger to discharge a round. (like a revolver) If your not as comfortable with the Glock's action, a double-action semi-auto pistol may be more appropriate. Or even a double-action revolver...although they tend to be a bit more difficult to fire accurately.
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I had a Glock 22 and loved it though I regretted not getting the Glock 23. Sold the Glock 22 for a Sig P229 in 40 S&W. Love my Sig.
For a .45 I would rather have the comfort and shootability of a 1911 type pistol. Can't beat a Kimber custom in terms of accuracy and price...which I am going to get once I get this car modding bug done.
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Which Glock do you recommend? (& why)
. the .40 might be a little smoother to shoot and cheaper to buy too. 
) don't have external safeties, they require a longer first pull of the trigger to discharge a round. (like a revolver) If your not as comfortable with the Glock's action, a double-action semi-auto pistol may be more appropriate. Or even a double-action revolver...although they tend to be a bit more difficult to fire accurately.
