Wideband AFR Shootout

[Hexxum001]

Originally Posted by paranormal

i still to this day.. 2 years now have not had my Innovate working.. hopefully gtm can get it working soon. the aem serial gauge is going in too so ill have that reading also

They will get it hooked up for you bro. They just installed mine and it seems to be working perfectly.

[GurgenPB]

Originally Posted by THE TECH

It's possible that Innovate has changed what you have to do to install their units in recent years since the last time I installed one.

In fact, yes they HAVE changed. They combined the system ground and the analog out ground into a single wire since people didn't follow direction and let the analog out be exposed to voltages, etc...frying the DAC for the two analog outputs that he LC1 has. So, now it's two ground instead of three from what i heard from Felipe, and you should connect them separately, so as to isolate the higher current heater ground circuit from the rest of teh circuit.

I still cannot fathom how connecting the Innovate! can be classified as difficult, you are getting wayyy more functionality than any toher gauge, including trough AND peak hold, programmable warnings (with conditions), ability to calibrate from the gauge, programmign gauge scale colors.....etc...

[GTM]

The Innovate! LC-1 A/F wideband is the GTM wideband of choice.

-George
GT Motorsports

[failsafe306]

George, are you guys ever gonna get that website up?

[GTM]

It should be up in the next 60days, we are still waiting on our web development company to finish it, since it is a very intensive site which much more than just what you see behind it.

-George
GT Motorsports

[r0mey]

george if you have the FCON you dont need a wideband since it gives you A/F right?

[Cube]

Holy crap... +/- 1.0 on the PLX? Maybe that's why my motor blew

Arghhhh what a POS. I hate PLX now... the meter even burnt out on me and when I bought a replacement, one of the segments of the last digit (top segment) doesn't light up...

On top of that, they're hard to deal with, I couldn't get a replacement for that POS defective meter (brand new).

[Justin@IOS]

Well, at least the AEM's are accurate... For checking to make sure things are still ok while driving around town, it'll be fine. Though if you're tuning, logging, etc... it's clearly evident which one is the best, though there's no huge surprises there.

That's a cool shootout.

[rcdash]

Paranormal - the circuit you use to power the O2 sensor may have something to do with the longevity of the sensor (i.e. running the car with the sensor off leading to fouling or accidentally leaving the sensor on and heated while the car is cold and then starting, which can lead to sensor shock). Dropping the sensor could kill it too.

Bottom line - the sensor could be toast. All this applies to all units, not just the innovate.

[Philthy]

Originally Posted by THE TECH

Also since most dyno places use the tailpipe sensor, readings will be different than those further upstream in the exhaust system.

This is true with a catted car, but I haven't seen much of a differences with cars with no cats... In all other cases I've noted that the tail pipe sniffer readings were a bit leaner than the reading pre-cat...