Finally ran my car at the track last night..... - Page 2

str8dum1 · 09-13-2009, 08:37 AM

I dont even think fayetteville is a 1/4 mile track. The 'race results' they have up there are 1/8t mile times.
But either way, goin to step up from the 1/8th and hit the 1/4 pretty soon. They got test and tune on friday the 25th at the Rock, so maybe i'll hit i that.

rockingham (~100 miles) is closest and prolly less crazy than Zmax in concord (~130 miles). weather is getting perfect.

last thurs the track prep at dunn benson was great. there was a sick huge single mustang out there running like 6.0 in the 1/8th at like 120. when those dumps opened, holy smokes.

Vas@Extended · 09-13-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemans350zTT

Man how much Torque are you putting out???? My Car never gets that squirlly in 3rd and im pushing 396whp 378TQ with my powerlabs setup. Diff need to get some tires brosky!!! Car looks like it hauls some major @$$ though!!! Very nice!! gangster fast shifting!!

Anyway good show

Are you on stock clutch? Iam running 370tq with the vortech.. and with stock clutch it used to hook up 2nd gear, but go nowhere ( slipping ) with new clutch.. im just like OP or worst.. 3-4th tires start to roast!

anyways.. OP great vids.. I say you get some R888s!!

Lemans350zTT · 09-13-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vas@Extended

Are you on stock clutch? Iam running 370tq with the vortech.. and with stock clutch it used to hook up 2nd gear, but go nowhere ( slipping ) with new clutch.. im just like OP or worst.. 3-4th tires start to roast!

anyways.. OP great vids.. I say you get some R888s!!

No not on stock clutch. ACT heavy duty with street disc and ACT prolite Flywheel. When I launch from the 1st I slip it pretty hard but still start to lose traction around 5000rpm hit 2nd still slipping but comes out pretty quickly. No traction problems in 3rd or 4th at all. That is crazy i would expect to get loose in 3rd and 4th with an alberto set up but not a stock block. What tires are you on?

350Z400rwhp · 09-13-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemans350zTT

Man how much Torque are you putting out???? My Car never gets that squirlly in 3rd and im pushing 396whp 378TQ with my powerlabs setup. Diff need to get some tires brosky!!! Car looks like it hauls some major @$$ though!!! Very nice!! gangster fast shifting!!

Anyway good show

Thanks! Here is a dyno graph of my car. I'm only making 350wtq.

350Z400rwhp · 09-13-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BoostedProbe

+1, have a picture of it?

Nice runs, the car sure moves well. I can't wait to get back out with a VLSD (had the open diff last time) and 3.3 FD. Looks like you are going across the line in 5th, must be 3.9fd.

The wheel hop was not near as bad as the last time I ran my car and that was when it was stock and had 245/45/18 Toyos. I'm sure it will be eliminated when I get even better tires and the 275/40/18 Dunlop Sport Maxx's that I just put on are still are not enough. I'm looking into some Mickey Thompsons but just need to figure out the rims and size / diameter (I'm running stock size 225/45/18's on the front still) so it doesn't mess with my VDC and I don't get issues with it thinking there is something wrong and my slip light being on. From my estimation it looks like I will need a 26" tall tire so I will have to figure out how to make this happen with a 16" or 17" rim that will fit my bolt pattern, be the right offset and wide enough to mount a 9.5" or 10" slick on it, any advice would be much appreciated. I also just have the stock 3.5FD

Here are some pics of my camera mount:

ADMAN · 09-13-2009, 10:52 AM

Nice 2nd run.

Looks like you'll be buying a helmet too.

djamps · 09-13-2009, 11:02 AM

My 18" stock ps2's hook up all the way through 2nd with ~380wtq.

Careful with that wheel hop. If it happens again with DR's/Slicks you will probably break your axles or blow out your diff mount.

Solid mounts FTW.

Lemans350zTT · 09-13-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 350Z400rwhp

The wheel hop was not near as bad as the last time I ran my car and that was when it was stock and had 245/45/18 Toyos. I'm sure it will be eliminated when I get even better tires and the 275/40/18 Dunlop Sport Maxx's that I just put on are still are not enough. I'm looking into some Mickey Thompsons but just need to figure out the rims and size / diameter (I'm running stock size 225/45/18's on the front still) so it doesn't mess with my VDC and I don't get issues with it thinking there is something wrong and my slip light being on. From my estimation it looks like I will need a 26" tall tire so I will have to figure out how to make this happen with a 16" or 17" rim that will fit my bolt pattern, be the right offset and wide enough to mount a 9.5" or 10" slick on it, any advice would be much appreciated. I also just have the stock 3.5FD

Here are some pics of my camera mount:

Man and your running decent tires too. That is crazy. I running Toyo TR1's and like I said not probs hooking up after 2nd gear. and very little in 2nd. Owell you will be running in the 12's in no time. Keep shifting like a gangster but as many have said be careful with that wheel hop. and maybe some 3.3 gears

Vas@Extended · 09-13-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemans350zTT

Man and your running decent tires too. That is crazy. I running Toyo TR1's and like I said not probs hooking up after 2nd gear. and very little in 2nd. Owell you will be running in the 12's in no time. Keep shifting like a gangster but as many have said be careful with that wheel hop. and maybe some 3.3 gears

Iam running 275s in the rear.. going to upgrade to 295s soon.. the 275s are pretty bald too so lol.

Lemans350zTT · 09-13-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vas@Extended

Iam running 275s in the rear.. going to upgrade to 295s soon.. the 275s are pretty bald too so lol.

Im on 285's right now and seem to hook up nice alot of tread left thouhg on got about 5k miles on them if that. 295's will be sick man!!!!!

Vas@Extended · 09-13-2009, 03:35 PM

Wheres Alberto??!

OP- How is your camber?.. specs?... alberto might be able to help you with camber to hook some of that power down.. His camber is sick!

03threefiftyz · 09-13-2009, 03:38 PM

You guys hooking with boost are crazy....I get crap traction at ~280whp. 275 MT DR's FTMFW

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str8dum1 · 09-13-2009, 04:50 PM

i just bought aluminum square bar today to make my camera mount. i'll be too embarassed to post my vids though i suspect

in terms of camber, road is not ideal for track. you really want about ~+.5* for the track so when the car squats you are ~0*, full contact. my tires definately show camber wear from the squats. I think i'm at like -2* now and its like -3 or 4* after the squat

for cheap rims, these are the very nice if you have brembos. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=390053756419

otherwise weld pro stars with like a 5.5 backspace and 5x4.5 bolt pattern and sweet 15" slick is 10000000% the way to go!

03threefiftyz · 09-13-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by str8dum1

i just bought aluminum square bar today to make my camera mount. i'll be too embarassed to post my vids though i suspect

in terms of camber, road is not ideal for track. you really want about ~+.5* for the track so when the car squats you are ~0*, full contact. my tires definately show camber wear from the squats. I think i'm at like -2* now and its like -3 or 4* after the squat

for cheap rims, these are the very nice if you have brembos. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=390053756419

otherwise weld pro stars with like a 5.5 backspace and 5x4.5 bolt pattern and sweet 15" slick is 10000000% the way to go!

+1.

350Z400rwhp · 09-13-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by str8dum1

i just bought aluminum square bar today to make my camera mount. i'll be too embarassed to post my vids though i suspect

in terms of camber, road is not ideal for track. you really want about ~+.5* for the track so when the car squats you are ~0*, full contact. my tires definately show camber wear from the squats. I think i'm at like -2* now and its like -3 or 4* after the squat

for cheap rims, these are the very nice if you have brembos. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=390053756419

otherwise weld pro stars with like a 5.5 backspace and 5x4.5 bolt pattern and sweet 15" slick is 10000000% the way to go!

So with those ebay rims would a tire like this work? http://www.jegs.com/i/Mickey-Thompson/672/3792/10002/-1 I think the rims there on Ebay are only 8.5" I have some 16" TSW rims that are 7.5" sitting in my garage that I believe would bolt up to my Z (don't have brembo's), could I just get some M/T's for those and save a buck or two? What does " Mickey Thompson ET Street Drag Tire 26'' x 10.5'' - 16''LT" mean? I assume 26" tall and for a 16" rim but does that mean 10.5" wide? If my TSW's are just 7.5" wide what is the widest M/T I could put on them?

350Z400rwhp · 09-13-2009, 05:09 PM

Here is a list of tires for M/T's http://www.jegs.com/p/Mickey-Thompso...46356/10002/-1 Why is the 26" x 10.5" - 16"LT under the 8.5" tread width section?

350Z400rwhp · 09-13-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vas@Extended

Wheres Alberto??!

OP- How is your camber?.. specs?... alberto might be able to help you with camber to hook some of that power down.. His camber is sick!

Camber is stock.

str8dum1 · 09-13-2009, 05:25 PM

drag tires are sized by surface patch, which is the widest distance across the tire. that helps you choose your rim size. You also need to look at tread width as that can vary quite a bit from the same size slicks between vendors.
So that 26"x10.5" has a 10.5" surface patch and a 8.5" tread, meaning that the sidewalls stick out 1" futher on each side than the tread.

you could prolly use a 10" tire on a 7.5" rim with some ballooning. but thats ok bc its a drag tire and not a street tire. 10.5 would be too wide for a 7.5" would be ok for an 8.5"

I would get these personally
http://www.jegs.com/i/Mickey-Thompso...3796/10002/-1#
or these if you dont wanna mess with tubes
http://www.jegs.com/i/Mickey-Thompso...793R/10002/-1#

UMW350Z · 09-13-2009, 05:26 PM

that inspired me to go drive my car again. Thank you.

sexy sound to you car

350Z400rwhp · 09-13-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by str8dum1

drag tires are sized by surface patch, which is the widest distance across the tire. that helps you choose your rim size. You also need to look at tread width as that can vary quite a bit from the same size slicks between vendors.
So that 26"x10.5" has a 10.5" surface patch and a 8.5" tread, meaning that the sidewalls stick out 1" futher on each side than the tread.

you could prolly use a 10" tire on a 7.5" rim with some ballooning. but thats ok bc its a drag tire and not a street tire. 10.5 would be too wide for a 7.5" would be ok for an 8.5"

I would get these personally
http://www.jegs.com/i/Mickey-Thompso...3796/10002/-1#
or these if you dont wanna mess with tubes
http://www.jegs.com/i/Mickey-Thompso...793R/10002/-1#

Thanks for the clarification! I just looked at my TSW rims and they are 7" Think I can get away with using those on a 10.5" tire (the ones without tubes that you suggested) or would I be ballooning too much? Last thing, will my VDC have issues with a 26" tire? I wonder how much it would shrink the diameter if I make them balloon too much and cause my slip light to come on with my 7" rims

09-13-2009, 08:37 AM	#21
str8dum1 Registered User 2003 Infiniti G35 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: raleigh-wood NC Posts: 3,330 iTrader: (7)	I dont even think fayetteville is a 1/4 mile track. The 'race results' they have up there are 1/8t mile times. But either way, goin to step up from the 1/8th and hit the 1/4 pretty soon. They got test and tune on friday the 25th at the Rock, so maybe i'll hit i that. rockingham (~100 miles) is closest and prolly less crazy than Zmax in concord (~130 miles). weather is getting perfect. last thurs the track prep at dunn benson was great. there was a sick huge single mustang out there running like 6.0 in the 1/8th at like 120. when those dumps opened, holy smokes. __________________ I haz boost Last edited by str8dum1; 09-13-2009 at 08:53 AM.

09-13-2009, 11:02 AM	#27
djamps Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MD Posts: 574 iTrader: (0)	My 18" stock ps2's hook up all the way through 2nd with ~380wtq. Careful with that wheel hop. If it happens again with DR's/Slicks you will probably break your axles or blow out your diff mount. Solid mounts FTW. __________________ '04 DG 6MT / Original Owner / AAM Stg1 TT

09-13-2009, 03:38 PM	#32
03threefiftyz HellaFlush=Fail 2003 Nissan 350Z Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 2,364 iTrader: (6)	You guys hooking with boost are crazy....I get crap traction at ~280whp. 275 MT DR's FTMFW . __________________ 03 6mt Bolt-ons w/Osiris: FunctionTuned 5. 03threefiftyz ----------------03 Tour 6spd 13.027@107.39mph 1.970 60ft DR's

09-13-2009, 04:50 PM	#33
str8dum1 Registered User 2003 Infiniti G35 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: raleigh-wood NC Posts: 3,330 iTrader: (7)	i just bought aluminum square bar today to make my camera mount. i'll be too embarassed to post my vids though i suspect in terms of camber, road is not ideal for track. you really want about ~+.5* for the track so when the car squats you are ~0, full contact. my tires definately show camber wear from the squats. I think i'm at like -2 now and its like -3 or 4* after the squat for cheap rims, these are the very nice if you have brembos. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=390053756419 otherwise weld pro stars with like a 5.5 backspace and 5x4.5 bolt pattern and sweet 15" slick is 10000000% the way to go! __________________ I haz boost

09-13-2009, 05:09 PM	#36
350Z400rwhp Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Columbus Posts: 949 iTrader: (3)	Here is a list of tires for M/T's http://www.jegs.com/p/Mickey-Thompso...46356/10002/-1 Why is the 26" x 10.5" - 16"LT under the 8.5" tread width section? __________________ 03' Touring 6MT / Black / Black / Vortech 2.87 Pulley 11psi / Snow Performance Stage 2 Meth Injection / XO2 Dual Exhaust / Megan Resonated Downpipes / Powerlab 3/8" Spacer / JWT Oil Pan Spacer / JWT Clutch / SS Clutch Line / Utec / DeatschWerks 600cc's / Walboro 255 / 6 Wire Earthing Ground Kit / AAM Uego / Autometer Boost / Tuned by GRD 414whp Last edited by 350Z400rwhp; 09-13-2009 at 05:10 PM.

09-13-2009, 10:52 AM	#26
ADMAN Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SIN CITY Posts: 1,546 iTrader: (9)	Nice 2nd run. Looks like you'll be buying a helmet too.

09-13-2009, 03:35 PM	#31
Vas@Extended Vendor - Former Vendor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 1,599 iTrader: (17)	Wheres Alberto??! OP- How is your camber?.. specs?... alberto might be able to help you with camber to hook some of that power down.. His camber is sick!

09-13-2009, 05:25 PM	#38
str8dum1 Registered User 2003 Infiniti G35 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: raleigh-wood NC Posts: 3,330 iTrader: (7)	drag tires are sized by surface patch, which is the widest distance across the tire. that helps you choose your rim size. You also need to look at tread width as that can vary quite a bit from the same size slicks between vendors. So that 26"x10.5" has a 10.5" surface patch and a 8.5" tread, meaning that the sidewalls stick out 1" futher on each side than the tread. you could prolly use a 10" tire on a 7.5" rim with some ballooning. but thats ok bc its a drag tire and not a street tire. 10.5 would be too wide for a 7.5" would be ok for an 8.5" I would get these personally http://www.jegs.com/i/Mickey-Thompso...3796/10002/-1# or these if you dont wanna mess with tubes http://www.jegs.com/i/Mickey-Thompso...793R/10002/-1# __________________ I haz boost Last edited by str8dum1; 09-13-2009 at 05:29 PM.

09-13-2009, 05:26 PM	#39
UMW350Z Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Piscataway, NJ Posts: 1,891 iTrader: (13)	that inspired me to go drive my car again. Thank you. sexy sound to you car __________________ 2005 350Z-ST/2009 Altima hybrid/2010 Maxima (c'mon April)

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