BUDGET Turbo Project- Started
01-28-2013, 10:55 AM
#1
BUDGET Turbo Project- Started
Haha I'm going to love everyone's comments for this post.
Godspeed kit/Utec $1440
Oil Pan Spacer $130
550cc Drop in Injectors $180
Going to buy a cheap ebay exhast and sell my injen ss $250
New Walbro 255 Free
(need more stuff, but that is what I purchased so far)
I took the injen exhaust off and stated to mock up piping to see if there was any fitment issues. Seems good so far, but Im waiting on my bolt extractor since one bolt on each manifold snapped.(btw not me in last pic)
More pics to come
UPDATE 02/03/2013 (so people do not have to go through thread to see updates)
Used a bolt extractor to get rid of the manifold to downpipe studs out
Moved power steering cooler to wheel well
Bolted up piping completely up to the turbocharger
Started routing charge piping and mounted intercooler(solid, but need to clean bracket up)
Installed Sandwich plate and oil line(need to get a 90 degree fitting for turbo)
Bolted stock plenum back on
Sandwich plate with oil feed VVVVV
Had to cut part of the plastic/metal near the rad support in the fender to fit charge piping vvvvvvvvv
Intake pipe to filter, filed down rad support to fit VVV
Left side of intercooler piping to intake touches plastic radiator support, will need to trim vvvvvv
Oil pan spacer ready to install VVVVV
Downpipe needed some hammer time. The pipe had to be squared off to be able to bolt. VVV
Brackets for intercooler VVV
02/24/2013 UPDATE
Finished exhaust(two clamps broke and had to order some obx ones)
Welded a bung for the wideband(forgot to take a pic of it)
Installed 90 degree fitting for turbo oil feed.
Installed oil pan spacer and magnetic drain plug.
Modified exhaust transmission mount that came with the kit(it was way off so I cut the tabs off and just drilled my own holes)
Wrapped a few more pipes/ A/C lines with titanium exhaust wrap
Got to drive the car and I am not a fan of the stock exhaust. I can barely hear it and mostly I just hear the intake. I was used to my injen which had a very nice sound to it.
I have a really bad boost gauge and I didn't have a power inverted set up for my laptop which doesn't hold a charge. So the boost gauge read between 3-5psi so I'm not really sure how much I'm actually running since the spring wasn't marked in any way.
The banjo bolt on the oil feed was leaking on the turbo before the initial run and I tried to tighten it up and it stripped(I had a spare oil feed fitting, but it's no 90 degrees so it's not the best fit, but it works for now). The smoke from the run was from the exhaust wrap being coated with oil.
The BOV sucks. Well it work's but it's not loud enough, so I'm going to buy a RFL bov since I do not like a sleeper sound.
Total Cost
Godspeed kit/Utec $1440
Oil Pan Spacer $130
550cc Drop in Injectors $180
Stock exhaust free
New Walbro 255 Free(not installed and the car is actually running 12ish afr in boost so i'm not sure if I even need it with the power I'm shooting for)
Misc clamps/bolts/new wastegate(only because I wanted to run lower boost) $100
MAF $20 since I didn't have the housing
$60 oil/filter
Sandwich plate $30
Total cost about 2k
Took the entire hot side of the kit completely out of the car two weekends ago due to exhaust leaks(not throwing any codes, but very annoying.
Bought all new clamps and copper v-band gaskets.
Installed some more 1800 degree exhaust wrap on A/C lines (doubled them up because I do not want to replace them)
Sanded every flange end to smooth out to try to get rid of these exhaust leaks.
Installed 7-8psi spring(I think)
Purchased the UTEC wideband gauge/adapter for easier tuning(it's pretty good anyways with the tune from the UTEC website with slight modification)
Got half of it installed last Sunday, but ordered the wrong V-band clamps and though I could pick up wastegate gaskets at autozone. Will finish installing this Sunday.
100% graphite v-band gasket. The copper ones didn't work well because I could not get enough pressure to make them seal. The graphite will seal at much lower pressures and can withstand 3000 degrees
Godspeed kit/Utec $1440
Oil Pan Spacer $130
550cc Drop in Injectors $180
Going to buy a cheap ebay exhast and sell my injen ss $250
New Walbro 255 Free
(need more stuff, but that is what I purchased so far)
I took the injen exhaust off and stated to mock up piping to see if there was any fitment issues. Seems good so far, but Im waiting on my bolt extractor since one bolt on each manifold snapped.(btw not me in last pic)
More pics to come
UPDATE 02/03/2013 (so people do not have to go through thread to see updates)
Used a bolt extractor to get rid of the manifold to downpipe studs out
Moved power steering cooler to wheel well
Bolted up piping completely up to the turbocharger
Started routing charge piping and mounted intercooler(solid, but need to clean bracket up)
Installed Sandwich plate and oil line(need to get a 90 degree fitting for turbo)
Bolted stock plenum back on
Sandwich plate with oil feed VVVVV
Had to cut part of the plastic/metal near the rad support in the fender to fit charge piping vvvvvvvvv
Intake pipe to filter, filed down rad support to fit VVV
Left side of intercooler piping to intake touches plastic radiator support, will need to trim vvvvvv
Oil pan spacer ready to install VVVVV
Downpipe needed some hammer time. The pipe had to be squared off to be able to bolt. VVV
Brackets for intercooler VVV
02/24/2013 UPDATE
Finished exhaust(two clamps broke and had to order some obx ones)
Welded a bung for the wideband(forgot to take a pic of it)
Installed 90 degree fitting for turbo oil feed.
Installed oil pan spacer and magnetic drain plug.
Modified exhaust transmission mount that came with the kit(it was way off so I cut the tabs off and just drilled my own holes)
Wrapped a few more pipes/ A/C lines with titanium exhaust wrap
Got to drive the car and I am not a fan of the stock exhaust. I can barely hear it and mostly I just hear the intake. I was used to my injen which had a very nice sound to it.
I have a really bad boost gauge and I didn't have a power inverted set up for my laptop which doesn't hold a charge. So the boost gauge read between 3-5psi so I'm not really sure how much I'm actually running since the spring wasn't marked in any way.
The banjo bolt on the oil feed was leaking on the turbo before the initial run and I tried to tighten it up and it stripped(I had a spare oil feed fitting, but it's no 90 degrees so it's not the best fit, but it works for now). The smoke from the run was from the exhaust wrap being coated with oil.
The BOV sucks. Well it work's but it's not loud enough, so I'm going to buy a RFL bov since I do not like a sleeper sound.
Total Cost
Godspeed kit/Utec $1440
Oil Pan Spacer $130
550cc Drop in Injectors $180
Stock exhaust free
New Walbro 255 Free(not installed and the car is actually running 12ish afr in boost so i'm not sure if I even need it with the power I'm shooting for)
Misc clamps/bolts/new wastegate(only because I wanted to run lower boost) $100
MAF $20 since I didn't have the housing
$60 oil/filter
Sandwich plate $30
Total cost about 2k
Took the entire hot side of the kit completely out of the car two weekends ago due to exhaust leaks(not throwing any codes, but very annoying.
Bought all new clamps and copper v-band gaskets.
Installed some more 1800 degree exhaust wrap on A/C lines (doubled them up because I do not want to replace them)
Sanded every flange end to smooth out to try to get rid of these exhaust leaks.
Installed 7-8psi spring(I think)
Purchased the UTEC wideband gauge/adapter for easier tuning(it's pretty good anyways with the tune from the UTEC website with slight modification)
Got half of it installed last Sunday, but ordered the wrong V-band clamps and though I could pick up wastegate gaskets at autozone. Will finish installing this Sunday.
100% graphite v-band gasket. The copper ones didn't work well because I could not get enough pressure to make them seal. The graphite will seal at much lower pressures and can withstand 3000 degrees
Last edited by iideadeyeii; 11-04-2014 at 12:25 PM. Reason: Update
01-28-2013, 11:45 AM
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Will lmfao when the impeller explodes on your first dyno pull because the waste gate fails and you spin it to infinite rpm and the shards destroy your motor.
Cheap crap. What do you really expect to get for under 1500? All that time and labor and all you will have is a poorly running car or a blown motor.
You were warned.
Cheap crap. What do you really expect to get for under 1500? All that time and labor and all you will have is a poorly running car or a blown motor.
You were warned.
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01-28-2013, 12:41 PM
#10
A whole turbo kit for less than the price of a ball bearing Precision 6266 CEA?
It's gotta be absolute garbage. Apparently the OP doesn't believe the old adage "you get what you pay for". This is the kind of crap that happens when the Honda Civic demographic can afford a used 350Z: Caviar dreams on a tuna fish budget and no respect for the FI knowledge base or history on the platform.And LOL @ the thumb up pic with the "super intercooler". That intercooler is so small that I doubt it will be sufficient for anything beyond very brief runs at 350whp with plenty of cool down time in between.
01-28-2013, 02:52 PM
#16
Your turbo kit is missing a turbo.
Buy a masterpower turbo that fits. And get a bigger ebay intercooler. Ebay fmic's go for like 100bucks and usually are pretty decent.
You can definitely make one on a budget. Mine was cheap considering what my goal is. But the rest of my build was far from cheap.
EDIT:
I saw the turbo.
Replace that ****.
Buy a masterpower turbo that fits. And get a bigger ebay intercooler. Ebay fmic's go for like 100bucks and usually are pretty decent.
You can definitely make one on a budget. Mine was cheap considering what my goal is. But the rest of my build was far from cheap.
EDIT:
I saw the turbo.
Replace that ****.
01-28-2013, 03:07 PM
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the reason so many of us blow these threads out of the water is for cautionary reasons only.. we commonly see the end result of people who dont have the capacity for this kind of work themselves.. no ability to troubleshoot an FI car, and no pocketbook large enough to replace an engine in the case of disaster.
Its only the cheap and fun way if youre a guy who can install one of these for fun..
Im sure youd agree. At the end of the day, its all jsut car aprts, and everything a guy uses doesnt have to be HKS to not blow up... lol....but.. if thats you, more power to ya and my hats off certainly.
But is it realistic for 99% of the people who will never see their Z turned FI unless its a 2500 dolalr ordeal? Nope.. its still all you my man.
Thats all.. there will be no flaming here from me. Just a few pictures of someone who sent me "progress pics" by text earlier this year.. Same kit as youre installing.
Notice the progress includes blowing a large piehole in the block.
this guy ahd a spare engine laying around..
so yeah, if youre up to that task, youll certainly get no negative comment from me.. id sure as hell would have liked to ahve spent that little on FI for my car.. i certainy didnt need 650 hp lol.. but i have none of the above mentioned skills.. so i have to pay to overbuild so i dont have to worry as much in the future.
good luck man, and post all the ups and downs.. full disclosure! lol.
Last edited by bmccann101; 01-28-2013 at 03:13 PM.
01-28-2013, 04:11 PM
#20
Bmccann you quoted me, but was referring to the OP.....I could do a built motor and twins if i wanted to. Hell i can afford a BE GT-R. However, i love saving money...lol. Im anxious to see OP's finished build and how long everything will hold up. I got a build coming soon on my Z since I just bought an IS-F for my DD. Stay tuned...lol