***** AAM Competition's 350Z Twin Turbocharger System *****
07-28-2014, 07:01 PM
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In response to your questions
1 - Correct, no relocation or deletion of the windshield washer reservoir
2 - We replace the bulky OEM aluminum mounts with our own laser cut stainless mounts to allow for additional space, but the configuration does not change at all
3 - Correct, no modification to the front fascia grill
4 - The solenoids are standard and you shouldn't have any issue here
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Let me know if you have any additional questions
1 - Correct, no relocation or deletion of the windshield washer reservoir
2 - We replace the bulky OEM aluminum mounts with our own laser cut stainless mounts to allow for additional space, but the configuration does not change at all
3 - Correct, no modification to the front fascia grill
4 - The solenoids are standard and you shouldn't have any issue here
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Let me know if you have any additional questions
Some follow up questions.
Are the new engine mounts solid, or do they have a bushing?
I can't tell from the render, but is the PCV hose routed to the drivers side turbo inlet piping with a welded fitting? The GTM kit uses a pipe thread fitting into very thin wall piping, not my favorite solution.
I can see the MAF mount on the intercooler to plenum piping, is there an easy block out plate for those running a MAP sensor instead?
07-28-2014, 08:51 PM
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I'm very far from local, and getting it to you would counter any savings I'd make for being in the R&D program. Just dropped a ton on a new body kit and moved to a new/bigger house last month. Pregnant wife wouldn't be too happy about this right now with third child on the way...but that's not to say I can't do it if I get rid of my current setup!
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07-29-2014, 07:10 AM
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What kind of bearings do these turbos use and are they oil lubricated and coolant cooled?
How did you deal with the turbo lub return oil? Your write-up says there is no modifying to the oem system except an oil pan spacer.
+ there are 2 air filters so I assume the OEM MAF is eliminated. AT cars need the MAF sensor in place to operate correctly....?
++ I see the CATS are deleted....What about emissions?
How did you deal with the turbo lub return oil? Your write-up says there is no modifying to the oem system except an oil pan spacer.
+ there are 2 air filters so I assume the OEM MAF is eliminated. AT cars need the MAF sensor in place to operate correctly....?
++ I see the CATS are deleted....What about emissions?
We have provisions in the spacer for AN fittings for that purpose. On each side. The drains hook up there.
Regarding the MAF sensor:
Maf in charge pipe and is retained and utilized.
Regarding Emissions:
Catted Downpipes are an option.
Regarding the Bearings:
Ceramic ball bearings and specialized race materials make up the Ball Bearing system
The bearings are oil cooled and the bearing housing castings are water cooled
Great questions!
07-29-2014, 07:12 AM
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07-29-2014, 07:20 AM
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Thanks for the quick reply. Having new engine mounts is a great touch, grinding down the factory mount sucked.
Some follow up questions.
Are the new engine mounts solid, or do they have a bushing?
I can't tell from the render, but is the PCV hose routed to the drivers side turbo inlet piping with a welded fitting? The GTM kit uses a pipe thread fitting into very thin wall piping, not my favorite solution.
I can see the MAF mount on the intercooler to plenum piping, is there an easy block out plate for those running a MAP sensor instead?
Some follow up questions.
Are the new engine mounts solid, or do they have a bushing?
I can't tell from the render, but is the PCV hose routed to the drivers side turbo inlet piping with a welded fitting? The GTM kit uses a pipe thread fitting into very thin wall piping, not my favorite solution.
I can see the MAF mount on the intercooler to plenum piping, is there an easy block out plate for those running a MAP sensor instead?
we only replace the bracket and not the engine mounts - OEM mounts are retained
Good eye not seeing the fitting in the render because it's not included in the renderings.
But there is a welded on AN fitting on driver intake tube. We have not designed a block off plate for the maf. But if it's something people are requesting it could be done.
07-29-2014, 12:12 PM
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07-29-2014, 12:46 PM
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^ the JWT kit utilizes 'pull thru' maf placement. This kit along with most others utilize 'blow thru' placement, in the pressurized air before the TB which IMO is superior for MAF tuning on this platform. It doesn't matter how many filters you have on a blow thru setup with DE.
07-29-2014, 02:07 PM
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^ the JWT kit utilizes 'pull thru' maf placement. This kit along with most others utilize 'blow thru' placement, in the pressurized air before the TB which IMO is superior for MAF tuning on this platform. It doesn't matter how many filters you have on a blow thru setup with DE.
A few years later-
One of my DIY mods was to go to a 2 filter setup however Hal (Dynosty) stated that the automatic transmission needs the MAF signal for load sensing so I scraped the idea and plan on using the OEM MAF in addition the MAP.
I'm still a little vague on this but if Hal states I need the MAF I will take his word for it.
07-29-2014, 02:15 PM
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so a $10k kit? Looks nice and the turbos are cool.
AAM, you know that the market has changed for the 350z. The last guy on here wanting to sell a kit for 10k failed. Guys on here are looking for CHEAP everything. Hell, most of them bought their Z's for under 10k and threw some busted *** wheel/tire/springs and think they should be on magazines.
They are driving the cost of used aftermarket parts into the dirt and expecting 110% performance.
Its a tough market, kudos if you can make it.
AAM, you know that the market has changed for the 350z. The last guy on here wanting to sell a kit for 10k failed. Guys on here are looking for CHEAP everything. Hell, most of them bought their Z's for under 10k and threw some busted *** wheel/tire/springs and think they should be on magazines.
They are driving the cost of used aftermarket parts into the dirt and expecting 110% performance.
Its a tough market, kudos if you can make it.
so the kit is 10K + ...so who is going to do the install and if the install is not local how will the kinks be worked out?
Install price?
Decent EMS???
This will need a brake upgrade....wheels...tires...suspension...
Seems to me one will be pushing $20K pretty fast.
Don't get me wrong...the kit looks gorgeous and excellent but I have found very few competent installers/tuners (actually only one) and support is everything.
07-30-2014, 05:19 AM
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07-30-2014, 05:26 AM
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THIS
so the kit is 10K + ...so who is going to do the install and if the install is not local how will the kinks be worked out?
Install price?
Decent EMS???
This will need a brake upgrade....wheels...tires...suspension...
Seems to me one will be pushing $20K pretty fast.
Don't get me wrong...the kit looks gorgeous and excellent but I have found very few competent installers/tuners (actually only one) and support is everything.
so the kit is 10K + ...so who is going to do the install and if the install is not local how will the kinks be worked out?
Install price?
Decent EMS???
This will need a brake upgrade....wheels...tires...suspension...
Seems to me one will be pushing $20K pretty fast.
Don't get me wrong...the kit looks gorgeous and excellent but I have found very few competent installers/tuners (actually only one) and support is everything.
This is part of the reason we focused so much effort during development to manufacture a true "OEM" style (fitment) twin turbo system. We anticipate the installation to only take around 8 hours (our techs take between 6-9) once the engine is out. With no "custom fabrication" required or relocation of any OEM parts by the installers we are hoping that shops realize this and it becomes their kit of choice (of course the performance numbers will back everything up as well)
We are doing the install on all of our R & D kits but also have a dealer program which shops can take advantage of during this last phase of development.
07-30-2014, 07:46 AM
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^ the JWT kit utilizes 'pull thru' maf placement. This kit along with most others utilize 'blow thru' placement, in the pressurized air before the TB which IMO is superior for MAF tuning on this platform. It doesn't matter how many filters you have on a blow thru setup with DE.
07-30-2014, 09:54 AM
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Even without drivetrain/suspension/brake upgrades I agree that you'd be looking at an EASY $15-$20k out the door price once you factor in necessary supporting mods like clutch, exhaust, EMS, tuning (HPX MAF as well), gauges, and what not. Then add labor for install of the kit and each supporting mod... then add tax... and in the end you're still running an OEM block on borrowed time...I've been down this road more than once lol. Add forged engine internals and additional fuel system upgrades and you're past $30k - more than twice the value of most DE cars. Oh, and Brakes, suspension and drivetrain upgrades now we're at $40k + the cost of the car. All of this keeping in mind you can get used Greddy Z's fully built and ready to go for $20k or less...
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so the kit is 10K + ...so who is going to do the install and if the install is not local how will the kinks be worked out?
Install price?
Decent EMS???
This will need a brake upgrade....wheels...tires...suspension...
Seems to me one will be pushing $20K pretty fast.
Don't get me wrong...the kit looks gorgeous and excellent but I have found very few competent installers/tuners (actually only one) and support is everything.
so the kit is 10K + ...so who is going to do the install and if the install is not local how will the kinks be worked out?
Install price?
Decent EMS???
This will need a brake upgrade....wheels...tires...suspension...
Seems to me one will be pushing $20K pretty fast.
Don't get me wrong...the kit looks gorgeous and excellent but I have found very few competent installers/tuners (actually only one) and support is everything.
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07-30-2014, 08:59 PM
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It's blow back from the early boost era when cats spent gazillions of dollars just to blow their motors! The rushed and high horsepower goals of the earlier owners has left a deep womb!