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Old 09-18-2014, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by spooncer_DK
and btw my turbo is capable of making 20+ pounds of boost... but thats none of my business
Pics of your kit? What turbo are you using?
Old 09-18-2014, 05:20 PM
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Old 09-18-2014, 05:24 PM
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i'll admit it's not done but (still working out a few kinks) but i did the math and our goal is for it to do 15 pounds but be capable of doing 20. we'll probably be running it at 10 in my car tho and i dont have any pics of it right now

hey Taywan, how are you running 8psi but only getting 388whp, seems like it should be a bit more than that

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Old 09-18-2014, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by spooncer_DK
I think almost everyone is hostile here
Haha. I was just fooling around. Definitely not hostile. Show some pictures of what you have. Maybe everyone will take your thread more seriously. Gook luck man.
Old 09-18-2014, 05:51 PM
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Every motor is a little different..plus climate, fuel, dyno, etc.

I have a turbonetics kit..not the best for big power but great for stock blocks..plus im about maxed on fuel.

guess you think just bc turbo, it's going to be xxx hp amount per pound of boost etc...GL w the 800whp build..I'd love to see pics first, then 800whp later(I know you didn't say 'whp', so to crank is fine..like to see numbers)
Old 09-18-2014, 06:02 PM
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Yeah that would do it. There's no way you could get 800 hp with stock block and turbo. I'm gonna spend my time building the engine first. I wouldn't run 800 hp either, that's stupid fast. I would probably run it at 600. And it is kindof x boost = xxx hp. We have a program that tells the turbo what rpm to spin at to produce a certain amount of power. Makes tuning easy oh and each pound of boost adds about 7-8% more power, do the math it works

What do you mean by "maxed on fuel"? I don't know much about the fuel system on these cars

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Old 09-18-2014, 07:35 PM
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Still not a single damn serious post has been posted by thenop in this thread.
Old 09-18-2014, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaxter
A minimum of 4 electric turbos should meet your power goals. Be sure and run them in series. I ran mine in parallel and it spooled too quick and I couldn't get traction on my heckaflush 335s. To avoid parasitic losses I ran mine on 100% solar panels and then shimmed the rear for downforce. Lastly fill your tires with helium to reduce unsprung weight.


(Sorry, I wanted to play too)
I actually teared up a bit while laughing when I read this.

I'm definitely getting rid of my two PT6766 and going Quad Electric Turbo with solar panel GT spoiler. I've got to remember to run them in series cuz I want more top end power on the 1/4 mile.

My boy with his k24 Civic Hatch can't beat me anymore.

Thanx Bro!

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Old 09-19-2014, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by spooncer_DK
Yeah that would do it. There's no way you could get 800 hp with stock block and turbo. I'm gonna spend my time building the engine first. I wouldn't run 800 hp either, that's stupid fast. I would probably run it at 600. And it is kindof x boost = xxx hp. We have a program that tells the turbo what rpm to spin at to produce a certain amount of power. Makes tuning easy oh and each pound of boost adds about 7-8% more power, do the math it works

What do you mean by "maxed on fuel"? I don't know much about the fuel system on these cars
I'm guessing he means his factory returnless fuel system and/or injectors are maxed out. His turbo setup uses fuel and boost to make power. It's not as efficient as using boost only, but it's a personal choice.

How do those calculations work for boost and power? That's pretty cool. I have to admit, the shop that built my kit picked my turbo. I didn't know you could calculate it like that. What EMS are you going to use? Are you going to build the entire kit from scratch or start off with a Godspeed? What color car are you going to buy?
Old 09-19-2014, 05:29 AM
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You just take hp before boost and multiply it by 0.07 (this gives you the hp per pound of boost. Then multiply that by the pounds of boost and add it to your original hp. It's a rough estimate but it can still be pretty close
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Ok so guy running 388whp on 8psi and you're math would put him at 366 and you say he's low? How does that make cents.

287*.07= 20.09*8= 160.72 + 287= 447.72 * 235(basewhp) /287 (stock hp crank) = 366.6whp estimated

or 235*.07 = 16.45*8=131.6+235= 366.6

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Old 09-19-2014, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by iideadeyeii
Ok so guy running 388whp on 8psi and you're math would put him at 366 and you say he's low? How does that make cents.

287*.07= 20.09*8= 160.72 + 287= 447.72 * 235(basewhp) /287 (stock hp crank) = 366.6whp estimated

or 235*.07 = 16.45*8=131.6+235= 366.6
That's why all these short cuts are just plain bullchit. It may look like it works on paper, but in reality, there are too many variable for any of this to even be use as a guideline. Only way to know is to dyno.
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Like I said
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Like I said it's a rough estimate 7-8%
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Originally Posted by turboed350z
That's why all these short cuts are just plain bullchit. It may look like it works on paper, but in reality, there are too many variable for any of this to even be use as a guideline. Only way to know is to dyno.
^^^Exactly The size of the turbo also matters. Example. My buddy and I had the same cars. 1.8l with turbos. He had a smaller turbo, mine was bigger and boosted about 4000rpm his was around 2500rpm. At 7 psi he ran a 15.8quarter whereas at 4psi I ran a 15.2 quarter
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Originally Posted by iideadeyeii
^^^Exactly The size of the turbo also matters. Example. My buddy and I had the same cars. 1.8l with turbos. He had a smaller turbo, mine was bigger and boosted about 4000rpm his was around 2500rpm. At 7 psi he ran a 15.8quarter whereas at 4psi I ran a 15.2 quarter
Not to mention and factor in other mods. Anyone who rely soly on boost, has no idea how to build a car.
Old 09-19-2014, 06:13 AM
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Yes ^^ plus with a built engine with more hp it takes less boost to get the same hp
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Originally Posted by spooncer_DK
Yes ^^ plus with a built engine with more hp it takes less boost to get the same hp
You can't really count on a certain psi mean a certain gain hp. A smaller turbo like the ones on Evo will require like 20lbs to make 400 hp. Where as I'm at 400 hp and I'm only on 6 psi. Too many variable at play to have a guideline as to x amount of boost equal to y amount of power gained
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Originally Posted by spooncer_DK
Like I said
Originally Posted by spooncer_DK
Like I said it's a rough estimate 7-8%
That would put him at the high side of your calculations, so why would you say it's low?

366 + 7% = 391...
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I agree that you can't count on it as certain but I think as a rough guideline it's alright


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