FI bug has bit, going Vortech
05-03-2016, 04:05 PM
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Tom - I believe 13.1 is the latest version for the non standalone (up to the ProZ33) model...They released a new firmware for the standalones. I've downloaded the newest and it's not compatible with my plat-pro harness.
Are you talking about cutting fuel/spark via a 2d or 3d table? I thought you could cut either or at a specified RPM in the settings.
Terra - are you looking to keep this car DOT street legal and/or do you have to pass emissions testing? I think it was V35JDM Jeff that told me the haltech standalones will not pass emissions (as I am going through this adventure right now).
Are you talking about cutting fuel/spark via a 2d or 3d table? I thought you could cut either or at a specified RPM in the settings.
Terra - are you looking to keep this car DOT street legal and/or do you have to pass emissions testing? I think it was V35JDM Jeff that told me the haltech standalones will not pass emissions (as I am going through this adventure right now).
Last edited by bealljk; 05-03-2016 at 07:46 PM.
05-03-2016, 04:35 PM
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Tom - I believe 13.1 is the latest version for the non standalone (ProZ33) model...They released a new firmware for the standalone.
Are you talking about cutting fuel/spark via a 2d or 3d table? I thought you could cut either or at a specified RPM in the settings.
Terra - are you looking to keep this car DOT street legal and/or do you have to pass emissions testing? I think it was V35JDM Jeff that told me the haltech standalones will not pass emissions (as I am going through this adventure right now).
Are you talking about cutting fuel/spark via a 2d or 3d table? I thought you could cut either or at a specified RPM in the settings.
Terra - are you looking to keep this car DOT street legal and/or do you have to pass emissions testing? I think it was V35JDM Jeff that told me the haltech standalones will not pass emissions (as I am going through this adventure right now).
Going to run Street and modified class time attack with it for a while
05-03-2016, 07:46 PM
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^I believe what I will be fighting on thursday is that I removed my MAF sensor and it's going to tag my ECU as 'not ready' which will fail my car ... it may be as simple as re-wiring it for ***** and giggles simply to pass the test.
But, furthermore, the standalone ECU's (I believe) will not register those emissions controls and prompt the system as 'not ready' which would fail the test. So, I guess what I'm saying is, if you can afford the platinum pro harness (piggyback) that'd be best in my mind.
Another thing I did after my build was tap-in a AN-4 fitting off my plenum to a vacuum block and ran everything that required a vacuum signal off the vacuum block.
Since TCode is in on this thread, he'll tell you to run a very small vacuum signal line to an external MAP sensor and hook that up to the Haltech ... an electronic signal travels much faster than a vacuum signal, Right T?
But, furthermore, the standalone ECU's (I believe) will not register those emissions controls and prompt the system as 'not ready' which would fail the test. So, I guess what I'm saying is, if you can afford the platinum pro harness (piggyback) that'd be best in my mind.
Another thing I did after my build was tap-in a AN-4 fitting off my plenum to a vacuum block and ran everything that required a vacuum signal off the vacuum block.
Since TCode is in on this thread, he'll tell you to run a very small vacuum signal line to an external MAP sensor and hook that up to the Haltech ... an electronic signal travels much faster than a vacuum signal, Right T?
Last edited by bealljk; 05-03-2016 at 07:49 PM.
05-03-2016, 11:01 PM
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Another thing I did after my build was tap-in a AN-4 fitting off my plenum to a vacuum block and ran everything that required a vacuum signal off the vacuum block.
Since TCode is in on this thread, he'll tell you to run a very small vacuum signal line to an external MAP sensor and hook that up to the Haltech ... an electronic signal travels much faster than a vacuum signal, Right T?
James, I can't find newer firmware for Pro Plug-in units on Haltech site. Have you seen it?
Edit:
It seems there are no traction control function in Pro Plugin
http://forums.haltech.com/viewtopic.php?t=10766
Last edited by tcode; 05-03-2016 at 11:33 PM.
05-04-2016, 01:46 PM
#65
You can set up traction control with wheel slip vs ignition retard and it works very well. I have it triggered only to be active when VDC is on. There is no individual cylinder cut unfortunately (which would allow for a better traction control strategy than just retard).
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05-04-2016, 04:06 PM
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I have a version of the 1.14 for the standalone proz33 that I'll send you if you want to try it out but it didnt work on my PnP harness...
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05-04-2016, 04:57 PM
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1.13.2 is the latest for the standalone version. From what I am told, haltech is not really expanding on the old piggyback versions.
http://www.haltech.com/downloads-2/e...ware-firmware/
(haltech calls the 350z a z33 when referring to a standalone and a 350z when referring to a piggyback)
Traction control is all tuner programmed. Ask your tuner about it.
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05-05-2016, 08:20 AM
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^ I think this is it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fk24ouu2tb...fault.zip?dl=0
for the masses ... I havent opened this in a while ... Cux might be right on 13.2, I thought it was 14...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fk24ouu2tb...fault.zip?dl=0
for the masses ... I havent opened this in a while ... Cux might be right on 13.2, I thought it was 14...
05-05-2016, 02:37 PM
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tcode is right, you can raise EGTs and start melting metals by retarding timing too much and too often. However if you pull a few degrees (up to max 10-15) for just a few tenths of a second to allow the wheels to catch again, it will be ok. This is the way most traction control and rev limiters work until it is time for a hard ignition or fuel cut.
I do agree that cutting individual cylinders on a rotating basis would be ideal but sadly they never got around to implementing that (it was asked for). Now only the Elite series has it...
It is possible to simulate an individual cylinder fuel cut (use the cylinder fuel trim and set up 2D axes based on wheel slip and mph), but I always worry about a severe lean condition (you can set fuel to -100% but I am not certain that is actually zero fuel for the entire engine cycle or it could interpolate to some averaged value), which also will raise EGTs.
I do agree that cutting individual cylinders on a rotating basis would be ideal but sadly they never got around to implementing that (it was asked for). Now only the Elite series has it...
It is possible to simulate an individual cylinder fuel cut (use the cylinder fuel trim and set up 2D axes based on wheel slip and mph), but I always worry about a severe lean condition (you can set fuel to -100% but I am not certain that is actually zero fuel for the entire engine cycle or it could interpolate to some averaged value), which also will raise EGTs.
Last edited by rcdash; 05-05-2016 at 02:39 PM.
05-05-2016, 02:39 PM
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tcode is right, you can raise EGTs and start melting metals by retarding timing too much and too often. However if you pull a few degrees (up to max 10-15) for just a few tenths of a second to allow the wheels to catch again, it will be ok. This is the way most traction control and rev limiters work until it is time for a hard ignition or fuel cut.
I do agree that cutting individual cylinders on a rotating basis would be ideal but sadly they never got around to implementing that (it was asked for). Now only the Elite series has it...
I do agree that cutting individual cylinders on a rotating basis would be ideal but sadly they never got around to implementing that (it was asked for). Now only the Elite series has it...
And since the older haltechs don't let you pull more than 10 degrees and you get to set the rate at which it pulls timing via a 2d map, you shouldn't have melted valve problems. Unless you set the car to plateu -10 degrees immediately as soon as X% wheel spin is detected. You want to ramp it up, and use that to help you learn to pedal the car. That's going to get the car pulling the least amount of timing, and keep the most power down.
Otherwise if you're looking for dumbass proof "oh **** i got wheelspin, lets just keep it floored" get a racelogic tcu.
Last edited by Resmarted; 05-05-2016 at 02:41 PM.
05-05-2016, 02:43 PM
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^ I think this is it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fk24ouu2tb...fault.zip?dl=0
for the masses ... I havent opened this in a while ... Cux might be right on 13.2, I thought it was 14...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fk24ouu2tb...fault.zip?dl=0
for the masses ... I havent opened this in a while ... Cux might be right on 13.2, I thought it was 14...
Last edited by rcdash; 05-05-2016 at 02:47 PM.
05-05-2016, 04:54 PM
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05-05-2016, 08:54 PM
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One more NA track event and the car is done with its current state