[08 Nismo] Clutch stuck to the floor, line doesn't look to be bleeding.
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[08 Nismo] Clutch stuck to the floor, line doesn't look to be bleeding.
Halfway down the road my clutch started to get strangely soft, like barely laying my foot down would send it 80% of the way down. It still let me engage the clutch and shift for the 5 minutes it took to get back to work. When I stopped moving it went the whole way down, and I now can't engage the clutch at all. It pretty easily falls the entire way to the floor, and doesn't give me any return pressure.
From my research, it looks to be any of the following:
-fluid lines (checked fluid it's fine, checked underneath couldn't find any bleeding
-Master/slave cylinder
-Pivot ball (honestly not too sure what this is, will look a bit more into it)
-Retaining pin somewhere that can snap?
If i'm going to have to drop the transmission for this, I'd like to get everything done at once down there. I have 110k on the car and have been meaning to start renewing parts and putting in quality aftermarket, but money has been tight lately.
So, as it stands, I'm waiting on a check from the Army that they've been piddle****ing around with for quite awhile, and it's for $1k, which i'd like to stay within.
I do NOT want to take it to a shop, I doubt I can afford it, and i'd rather to the work myself. I have a buddy who is a qualified mechanic and has worked on tons of Z's, and has a tranny lift and all the tools at his house.
I also have this pedal sitting around, picked it up on the last group buy. Anything special i need to look for that wouldn't work with it?
http://rjmperformance.com/350z--g35-...G35/p/65861576
I could have sworn someone had a good combo kit for this, I thought it was z1 but I can't find it. Could really use a hand, as I'm in a tight spot and this is my only vehicle.
Thanks!
edit - found the kit, option at the bottom to add the csc elim kit.
https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...bo-p-5384.html
Is this a proper choice for me? It's my daily driver, and while I do plan on tracking her eventually, right now I just need to make sure i can reliably geto to work, while still not screwing myself later when I want to upgrade by puttin in oem parts.
From my research, it looks to be any of the following:
-fluid lines (checked fluid it's fine, checked underneath couldn't find any bleeding
-Master/slave cylinder
-Pivot ball (honestly not too sure what this is, will look a bit more into it)
-Retaining pin somewhere that can snap?
If i'm going to have to drop the transmission for this, I'd like to get everything done at once down there. I have 110k on the car and have been meaning to start renewing parts and putting in quality aftermarket, but money has been tight lately.
So, as it stands, I'm waiting on a check from the Army that they've been piddle****ing around with for quite awhile, and it's for $1k, which i'd like to stay within.
I do NOT want to take it to a shop, I doubt I can afford it, and i'd rather to the work myself. I have a buddy who is a qualified mechanic and has worked on tons of Z's, and has a tranny lift and all the tools at his house.
I also have this pedal sitting around, picked it up on the last group buy. Anything special i need to look for that wouldn't work with it?
http://rjmperformance.com/350z--g35-...G35/p/65861576
I could have sworn someone had a good combo kit for this, I thought it was z1 but I can't find it. Could really use a hand, as I'm in a tight spot and this is my only vehicle.
Thanks!
edit - found the kit, option at the bottom to add the csc elim kit.
https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...bo-p-5384.html
Is this a proper choice for me? It's my daily driver, and while I do plan on tracking her eventually, right now I just need to make sure i can reliably geto to work, while still not screwing myself later when I want to upgrade by puttin in oem parts.
Last edited by Unicus; 02-08-2017 at 01:03 PM.
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I would NOT use OEM slave cylinder as replacement. Same thing will happen.
The two "upgraded" options available are both by Z Speed Performance:
- HD CSC (concentric slave cylinder) - same installation as OEM unit and has been the tried and true upgrade solution for HR/VHR (all 2007+) equipped Zs.
I just installed this (along with a new clutch, both of which I had sitting in my garage for my Nismo's eventual clutch upgrade) on my son's HR and all is good. Along with a new master, car runs great.
Found here: http://www.zspeedperformance.com/ZSp...SC-zsp2006.htm
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- A newer option from them is the ZSP CMAK (clutch movement alteration kit) which essentially externalizes all the hydraulic pieces and uses time honored clutch fork and standard T/O bearing. Think of this as a "backdate" or "conversion" to the set up on a DE engine. I've no personal opinion on this as I've not used but reviews have been encouraging.
http://www.zspeedperformance.com/ZSp...e-ZSP-CMAK.htm
Either way, the curse of the dropped pedal should disappear with these solutions.
The two "upgraded" options available are both by Z Speed Performance:
- HD CSC (concentric slave cylinder) - same installation as OEM unit and has been the tried and true upgrade solution for HR/VHR (all 2007+) equipped Zs.
I just installed this (along with a new clutch, both of which I had sitting in my garage for my Nismo's eventual clutch upgrade) on my son's HR and all is good. Along with a new master, car runs great.
Found here: http://www.zspeedperformance.com/ZSp...SC-zsp2006.htm
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- A newer option from them is the ZSP CMAK (clutch movement alteration kit) which essentially externalizes all the hydraulic pieces and uses time honored clutch fork and standard T/O bearing. Think of this as a "backdate" or "conversion" to the set up on a DE engine. I've no personal opinion on this as I've not used but reviews have been encouraging.
http://www.zspeedperformance.com/ZSp...e-ZSP-CMAK.htm
Either way, the curse of the dropped pedal should disappear with these solutions.
Last edited by MicVelo; 02-08-2017 at 04:12 PM.
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EDIT: Ooops, redudancy alert! Didn't see the above post. My bad....
Last edited by MicVelo; 02-08-2017 at 04:21 PM.
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when i was helping a buddy install one, in the instructions it recommended that you adjust it every oil change. i was intrigued by it when it first came out, but after seeing it i was turned off by it. i would rather do one of the zspeed setups.
also didnt like all the calculations and shimming it required
also didnt like all the calculations and shimming it required
Last edited by travlee; 02-09-2017 at 03:53 AM.
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I'll change out the clutch either at 60k or when the one I have now fails completely. It acts up about once a month, I bleed the line and it's fine for another month. The OEM French slave design on the HRs is utter crap.