Starter bikes

bbhiznors · 07-07-2008, 08:20 AM

So I was having a conversation with a good friend of mine the other day about a good bike to start on. I stated that a kawisaki 250 or a suzuki 650 sv would be great bikes to start on. I said that the kawi would be good for newbs because of the low power band and it has a more upright seating position. Also the suzuki would be good for a novice to intermidate rider due to the ease of riding...

AND What does my friend sugest...

A freakin hyabusa....he said it was a well rounded bike and was stable..wow..A bike that goes close to 200mph for a new rider...GREAT IDEA..

I let him know how assinine the statement was...Now neither of us ride at this point and this was just a conversation that we had...but it does not suprise me why some people get bikes that are way to powerful to start out

RxZ · 07-07-2008, 08:26 AM

The only thing I can suggest for someone interested in riding is to take the MSF course. They use 125cc bikes (some 250). I can tell you from experience, I took the course this weekend, if yo do not work all the controls just right even these very weak bikes will throw yo to the ground. One guy in our class high-sided three times going less than 20 mph!

Starting on something more powerful than this is just ludicrous, even if it is only for a few months to get your feet wet, you should start with something no more than the 650s or Ninja 650r, and I would say even smaller if possible.

Edit: Correct me if I am wrong, but in Europe (or maybe just England) by law don't you have to start out on a bike with less than 33 HP?

terrasmak · 07-07-2008, 08:47 AM

A friend of mine crashed during the MSF and put the footpeg thru the back of their calf. Yup it was only a 125

bbhiznors · 07-07-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by terrasmak

A friend of mine crashed during the MSF and put the footpeg thru the back of their calf. Yup it was only a 125

F that would hurt

Alberto · 07-07-2008, 09:00 AM

250cc IMO is too weak to comfortably commute on the highway. But for back road stuff for lighter/smaller riders they are tons of fun.

Bikes like SV650's and Ninja 650's are great starter bikes, but dont let that fool you into thinking they are weaksauce. In the right hands they are very capable bikes in the twisties. The SV's have a plethora of parts available, and the many different styles you can choose to mod them in is nice as well.

BTW-I didnt know some MSF's used 125cc bikes. We use 250's here in MD.

RxZ · 07-07-2008, 09:10 AM

Alberto, the class I took holds classes all over the state of Texas, and according to their website, and what I saw at my class (only 125 cc bikes), I bet over 90% of the bikes are 125's. But like I said, one guy crashed it three times, and there were several others that nearly crashed. All due to poor throttle/clutch control. Multiply the HP, and there probably would have been more crashes from nearly everyone.

Highway Riding · 07-07-2008, 09:38 AM

I started out a Yamaha YSR... It's all about how bad u want to learn

doug · 07-07-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Alberto

BTW-I didnt know some MSF's used 125cc bikes. We use 250's here in MD.

the class i took they had about 6 125's... 4 250's and 2 500's .. i took one of the 500's.. it was a yellow buel

07-07-2008, 08:20 AM	#1
bbhiznors Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas Tx Posts: 2,828 iTrader: (0)	Starter bikes So I was having a conversation with a good friend of mine the other day about a good bike to start on. I stated that a kawisaki 250 or a suzuki 650 sv would be great bikes to start on. I said that the kawi would be good for newbs because of the low power band and it has a more upright seating position. Also the suzuki would be good for a novice to intermidate rider due to the ease of riding... AND What does my friend sugest... A freakin hyabusa....he said it was a well rounded bike and was stable..wow..A bike that goes close to 200mph for a new rider...GREAT IDEA.. I let him know how assinine the statement was...Now neither of us ride at this point and this was just a conversation that we had...but it does not suprise me why some people get bikes that are way to powerful to start out __________________ Wolfmans got nards

07-07-2008, 08:47 AM	#3
terrasmak Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sin City Posts: 3,935 iTrader: (2)	A friend of mine crashed during the MSF and put the footpeg thru the back of their calf. Yup it was only a 125 __________________ Sure therapy, but screaming obscenities is cheaper.

07-07-2008, 09:00 AM	#5
Alberto SHIFT_Blah Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 19,735 iTrader: (12)	250cc IMO is too weak to comfortably commute on the highway. But for back road stuff for lighter/smaller riders they are tons of fun. Bikes like SV650's and Ninja 650's are great starter bikes, but dont let that fool you into thinking they are weaksauce. In the right hands they are very capable bikes in the twisties. The SV's have a plethora of parts available, and the many different styles you can choose to mod them in is nice as well. BTW-I didnt know some MSF's used 125cc bikes. We use 250's here in MD. __________________ 11.1@126mph old set-up low boost Wanna see my Z go 170+mph? Click Me *More Videos* Fixed & Tuned by PFSUPERCARS

07-07-2008, 09:38 AM	#7
Highway Riding Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North NJ Posts: 921 iTrader: (1)	I started out a Yamaha YSR... It's all about how bad u want to learn __________________ The Sun Rises In The EAST!

07-07-2008, 08:26 AM	#2
RxZ Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East Texas (Tyler Area) Posts: 1,973 iTrader: (0)	The only thing I can suggest for someone interested in riding is to take the MSF course. They use 125cc bikes (some 250). I can tell you from experience, I took the course this weekend, if yo do not work all the controls just right even these very weak bikes will throw yo to the ground. One guy in our class high-sided three times going less than 20 mph! Starting on something more powerful than this is just ludicrous, even if it is only for a few months to get your feet wet, you should start with something no more than the 650s or Ninja 650r, and I would say even smaller if possible. Edit: Correct me if I am wrong, but in Europe (or maybe just England) by law don't you have to start out on a bike with less than 33 HP?

07-07-2008, 09:10 AM	#6
RxZ Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East Texas (Tyler Area) Posts: 1,973 iTrader: (0)	Alberto, the class I took holds classes all over the state of Texas, and according to their website, and what I saw at my class (only 125 cc bikes), I bet over 90% of the bikes are 125's. But like I said, one guy crashed it three times, and there were several others that nearly crashed. All due to poor throttle/clutch control. Multiply the HP, and there probably would have been more crashes from nearly everyone.