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However I do not really see the point of knee dragging. Why not just lean and be done with it.
I would think it was only for fun, but I see the proriders doing it.
Is it to prevent oneself from going down too far, and prevent the pegs from scraping, or is it kinda like a surfer dragging his hand in a wave.
Is it necessary to do this to get the full lean angle of the bike or is it simply just safer?
At some point if you go over far enough you'll have no option but to drag your knee, I'm a somewhat faster rider (so I hear) and when it comes to street riding, while I don't have any chicken strips on my 1000s rear tire, I've NEVER had to touch my knee on the ground. You really need a perfect road to get that low.
Now, keep in mind, I see people riding on major roads doing the speed of traffic fully leaned over as if they're ripping through the gears, I've also see people take turns and stick their knees out as far as they can with hopes (I think) of touching the ground.
I copied this from your link, this is a good explanation to your question.
"Doing it correctly allows greater speed per given lean angle. This is safer, as it allows you to remain away from the limit of the bike for a given speed, and it allows more throttle input coming out of the turn."
This is not something I would ever think of doing on the street,do some track days
and the first time you get that knee down will be exhilarating.
I copied this from your link, this is a good explanation to your question.
"Doing it correctly allows greater speed per given lean angle. This is safer, as it allows you to remain away from the limit of the bike for a given speed, and it allows more throttle input coming out of the turn."
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I believe when he mentioned this he was referring to staying on the bike in the lean versus hanging off it like a monkey.
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Yikes....please tell me you don't have an R1 or equivalent and have this little riding knowledge.
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I am ********ting. Lets see if you all catch on. I want to see how many get all indignant and call me stupid etc. I have a ZZR 600
I really scared to getting my knee scrapping to the ground but I do stick my knee when going for corner since sometimes,especially when going fast into the corner since the bike will be easy to going through the corner....if not it feel kinda heavy & always likely to go straight....
BTW,thnx for the link...& I think its great if you can knee dragging at right time,place & moment....it will end up with style as you take out the curve....
Go to the track, drag knee all day long and have no worries.
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I believe when he mentioned this he was referring to staying on the bike in the lean versus hanging off it like a monkey.
Hanging off like a monkey can keep the bike up straighter, IE. more rubber on the track or road or what ever. More rubber = More grip = Higher speeds. The track pic Jeff posted he is so low he can not even get off the bike.
In this video you can see they are hanging off like monkeys and the bike could go over much much more.
dragging knee is a tool you can use to gauge how far you are leaned over. That is all.
^^^this
Most racers will actually pull their knee off the ground once they touch after reaching max lean angle for a turn. If not, you would go through a set of knee pucks damn near every session/race.
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I watched some old 1 hour video about 500cc - MotoGP that was pretty detailed on the Rossi - Biaggi wars at the time. They mentioned that riding style was made to help go around corners faster. According to them, putting the knee down, and therefore your weight, helped you pivot the bike on that. Sounds weird, but they said you obviously can't turn the steering wheel the way you like so this would help "turn" the bike.
Now you got Rossi putting out his foot upon braking. He claims that it helps him brake harder (mental thing where he thinks his foot can prevent him from overbraking). I've seen him do it with his right foot so he's only braking with his front brakes. Crazy.
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I can't wait to start dragging a knee but only going to use it at the track. I laugh my ass off when you see idiots in t-shirts and jeans sticking a knee out like they have the intention of dragging a knee.
Most racers will actually pull their knee off the ground once they touch after reaching max lean angle for a turn. If not, you would go through a set of knee pucks damn near every session/race.
I keep mine down thru the corner, but there is very little pressure on the puck. In 3 years of racing and being an idiot on the street i only went thru 4 sets of pucks.
My first set of pucks went fast, i thought it was cool and tried to grind them as hard as possible. I guess its part fo the learning curve.
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At some point if you go over far enough you'll have no option but to drag your knee, I'm a somewhat faster rider (so I hear) and when it comes to street riding, while I don't have any chicken strips on my 1000s rear tire, I've NEVER had to touch my knee on the ground. You really need a perfect road to get that low.
Now, keep in mind, I see people riding on major roads doing the speed of traffic fully leaned over as if they're ripping through the gears, I've also see people take turns and stick their knees out as far as they can with hopes (I think) of touching the ground.
it could also be how tall you are.. with being 6'3 with pretty long legs i can get my knee pretty close to the ground... Alberto's knees should pretty close too.. however my cornering technique i don't leave the bike.. i've done it hanging off the bike.. but i like to stay on the bike
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Most racers will actually pull their knee off the ground once they touch after reaching max lean angle for a turn. If not, you would go through a set of knee pucks damn near every session/race.
exactly. When mine hits the deck, it comes right back up.
Point of Knee Dragging?
