Is there such a thing as too cool?
03-28-2012, 06:33 PM
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Is there such a thing as too cool?
Drove over an hour and a half this morning in 60 degree temps and had 155-170 coolant and 100 oil temps.
On the way home in 70-90 degree temps it came up to the 190s and 130 ranges.
Soon it will be over 90 at all times so I am in no rush to do anything but I need to know where oil and coolant temps need to be (min to max)
On the way home in 70-90 degree temps it came up to the 190s and 130 ranges.
Soon it will be over 90 at all times so I am in no rush to do anything but I need to know where oil and coolant temps need to be (min to max)
03-28-2012, 07:02 PM
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I'm running OEM Rev-up Tstat but you can definitely try cover the oil cooler a bit.
you want your oil a little hotter so it can thin out specially in winter
you want your oil a little hotter so it can thin out specially in winter
03-28-2012, 09:21 PM
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aluminum foil over the oil cooler maybe? easy enough to try atleast to see if that helps bring up your oil temps a little and its not permanent so should take took long either way
03-29-2012, 05:59 AM
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I am running Castrol EDGE Ti 5-20 due to high pressures (the reason for the aftermarket oil pressure gauge) which is leaving because it is only good to 100psi.
Damn gauges are totally black until lit so I did not know they sent the wrong gauge until after it was on. I got the 140psi gauge yesterday but it uses totally different connectors/sensors so it will be a while before it goes in.
Damn gauges are totally black until lit so I did not know they sent the wrong gauge until after it was on. I got the 140psi gauge yesterday but it uses totally different connectors/sensors so it will be a while before it goes in.
03-29-2012, 06:25 AM
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A simple standard oil, for example a pure base stock, would be a single weight, like 30 weight. This pure oil would have no detergent additives to keep the engine clean. This oil would be relatively thick and difficult to pour at room temperature, and would thin out as the motor heated up. On a very cold day, say 10° below freezing, this oil would thicken to the point where you could not start your motor, and if you did, the oil pump could not pump the oil around to protect your motor. It used to be that to start their diesel trucks in the winter, truckers would add kerosene to their oil to thin it out. Then they had to hope the kerosene would burn off before it did any real damage. Today, synthetic oils that are rated 0W-40 flow normally down to 65° below zero and remove the need for engine block heaters or adding kerosene.
http://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/r...Engine_Oil.htm
http://www.audiworld.com/tech/eng96.shtml
"W"ratings- Motor oil essentially can be formulated within a range of thickness or thinness. That is to say, biased either thicker or thinner. Oil is known as a "Non-Newtonian fluid" whose viscosity changes as it's temp changes, unlike water that stays the same viscosity. A thin oil, like 5w-30, will flow great in cold when the engine is first started. In effect, it will not get too thick when cold but as the engine heats up, it will thin down as it reaches operating temp, ideally +212f (the temp it's SAE viscosity is measured). A thicker oil, like a 10w-40, will be significantly thicker in cold, to the point of inhibiting the engine from cranking and being lubed adequately as it warms up. That's how we arrive at the most common conventional grades of motor oil, 5w-30 and 10w-40. The "W" part just means that it passed a "cold cranking" test at very low temps.
Viscosity explained
http://www.upmpg.com/tech_articles/motoroil_viscosity/
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03-29-2012, 12:12 PM
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e30, you sure your gauge is reading correctly?
or maybe cause you dont have oil squirters that is preventing oil from getting hotter?
idk, just throwing out ideas
or maybe cause you dont have oil squirters that is preventing oil from getting hotter?
idk, just throwing out ideas
03-29-2012, 01:22 PM
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The cooler is a 12x6x5 three row Setrab. Nothing huge. I also have a big finned oil pan and am running a gigantic filter so there are almost 3 extra quarts. maybe I need less oil.
I just drove for about 20 minutes, parked in an underground lot and then drove slowly out through two levels. Water temp got to 207 oil to 170 it immediately came down to 190/120 when I got out into the street. Ambient was 87.
It is already 90 here by 1pm.
It made it to 97 in my backyard yesterday. Soon it will not be below 90 at 5am.
Since I am not throwing any codes I guess it is ok. By next winter I'll have it sorted.
I just drove for about 20 minutes, parked in an underground lot and then drove slowly out through two levels. Water temp got to 207 oil to 170 it immediately came down to 190/120 when I got out into the street. Ambient was 87.
It is already 90 here by 1pm.
It made it to 97 in my backyard yesterday. Soon it will not be below 90 at 5am.
Since I am not throwing any codes I guess it is ok. By next winter I'll have it sorted.
03-29-2012, 01:46 PM
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If you are worried about the oil temp they make temperature sensitive valves. Get one of those and only have it open when the oil gets hot enough, and then close when it gets too cool.
