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Old 12-03-2008, 08:17 AM   #21
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I think the Ferrari analogy completely went over your head.
I'll second that notion.
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:15 AM   #22
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Um, I have the stupid luck of having both a 03 350Z and a 08 E93 M3 convertible sitting in my driveway and while I only have 800 miles on the M3, I have 60K on the Z, so I figure I can speak with some knowledge.

Sitting in a car and not driving it doesn't really allow one to form a very substantive impression.

However, I agree with you that the engine, when cold, does not sound entirely "pleasant." The same has been said of the M5, many have described it as sounding like a diesel. Personally, I like the chatty, lumpy sound. Besides, once the engine is warm and pulling 5500 rpm (I'm still limited during break in), it sounds pretty damn good. Really really good actually.

I also partly agree with you in terms of the interior. Keep in mind that the car does NOT have the interior of a 60-70K car. It basically has the interior of a 40K car, ie. the 328. The leather is better quality and there may be more of it, but the plastics on the dash I believe are the same, as are the instruments. The wheel and trim are different though. I think a similar analogy would be that (I presume), the ZR-1 has pretty much the same interior as a base Corvette.

Regardless, the Z and the M are entirely different. I have never driven an E46 M3, although I have ridden in one so I cannot really say how the two are different. I have driven a 335 which supposedly compares well to the old M3 and I can say that the 335 and E93 are very different.

I would recommend that you make a second opinion after driving the car, or better yet, after driving somebody's car that's been fully broken in. I imagine it would be a different one.
That a pretty unbiased review right thurr and it's spot on!

can't wait to test drive it. I'll also TD the 335 and the evo X
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:34 AM   #23
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Huh? Twin Turbo S4? There is no NEW S4 with twin turbos. The newest revision, the B8, will be supercharged.
Correct....sorry, I keep forgetting that......that's the old B4's that had the TT V6. Still, the SC version can be tweaked for mucho fun too
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:49 AM   #24
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I guess the interior is all a matter of personal preferance, rouxeny is right that the M3 interior is pretty much the same as a 335 or other 3 series with very slight changes. And I agree with his Corvette analogy.

But for me coming from 350z---> 996---> to E92 M3 I really like the E92 interior . I have been in the C63 and still prefer the look of the E92 interior, well besides the seats...which are amazing in the c63. again this is personal preference.

I can say that the engine and exhaust sound amazing once the car is warmed up, it does have a "different" sound when the car is starting as rouxeny said.

here are some comparisons of C63 vs E92 M3 interior.

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Old 12-03-2008, 11:43 AM   #25
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I like the steering wheel on the Benz but neither interior looks deserving of 60K. If you want see one deserving of 60k see below:

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I guess the interior is all a matter of personal preferance, rouxeny is right that the M3 interior is pretty much the same as a 335 or other 3 series with very slight changes. And I agree with his Corvette analogy.

But for me coming from 350z---> 996---> to E92 M3 I really like the E92 interior . I have been in the C63 and still prefer the look of the E92 interior, well besides the seats...which are amazing in the c63. again this is personal preference.

I can say that the engine and exhaust sound amazing once the car is warmed up, it does have a "different" sound when the car is starting as rouxeny said.

here are some comparisons of C63 vs E92 M3 interior.

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For comparison, this is the interior of the IS-F, since they're technically in the same class. Personally, I like black leather better on the IS-F.
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I to think the is-f interiors looks the best out of these 3 or at least special compared to the is350. None of these interiors has anything on the s5's interior.
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yeah the ISF is technically in the same class but i doubt someone who buys the isf would conisder the m3 or vice versa. The isf is not competition for the m3 imo.
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^ why not?
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^ why not?
Having driven both they are substantially different drives. Even though they are in the same "class" of cars they offer very different results. The ISF is a boring drive imo. It is smooth and has alot of cooshy stuff where as when i drove the m3 it felt far more race inspired and sporty. Sure the isf is sporty too but not like the m3. In other words

M3=sporty sedan with a splash of luxury
ISF=luxury sedan with a splash of sport

This is all imo but before you call me out go test drive them and see for yourself.
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