Not a good sign for GM and the Camaro

[buzzardmountain]

Originally Posted by MarvinMartian

The QX56 was not introduced to adoring throngs desperate to see a venerable nameplate resurrected to reintroduce the glory days of a car manufacturer that is, indeed, nearing financial ruin and extinction.

If there was one car that GM needed to get right -- scratch that, perfect -- it was this car.

This isn't a car; it's Chevrolet Jesus.









And Chevrolet Jesus has swine flu, it appears . . .

[jackie chan]

there was a SS ast the auction this morning....double stack of "caliper" weights on it...

[BaZooKa]

WTF ! Weights on calipers ?

[DavesZ#3]

The problems only get worse...


Users on Camaro5 forum created a list of stuff to check before taking delivery of their cars --- disclaimer -- no on actually experienced every issue but these are a combined list of isolated experiences people had:



001. Loose Bolts that hold fluid back causing leaks (ex: on oil pan, tranny fluid)
002. Trunk Locking mechanism (issues with opening w/o adding down pressure to top of trunk first and/or emergency release appears to be loose keeping the trunk from locking properly)
003. Loose plastic paneling around the 4-gauges cluster, launch control, cigarette power plug as well as Left and Right A-Pillars Trim Loose, sill trim loose, and dash pannel where doors and dash meet popping open.
004. Loose Spoiler/installed correctly (Re-torque Spoiler bolts)
005. Wiper transmission cable overheating from engine causing a short circuit.
006. Matching Headlight Halos strength. (one defective being dimmer then the other).
007. Mismatched paint on parts of the vehicle (including gas door). As well as paint runs or clear coat runs. Paint Chips.
008. Loose Rocker Panel "Chevrolet" causing it to peel off.
009. Minor Problem With Window Indexing.
010. Ambient Lighting on doors defective.
011. Bad radiator (leaks).
012. Hood release/latch issues (won't unhook to open the hood).
013. Gap at base of ONStar Antenna.
014. Battery cable routing near the starter has been done.
015. Digital Speedometer is off. Also keeps going on and off.
016. Bottom pulley shakes and needs replacement per dealer.
017. Broken tranny.
018. Ignition Mechanism Issue with key getting stuck in car.
019. Non RS taillights installed on RS equipped cars (all 4 of them).
020. Rocker Panel aligned with body and clipped in correctly.
021. Bumper rubs with body
022. Trunk opens with switch and remote
023. Correct speedo/tach gauge ring color
023. Ambient lighting on drivers door as bright as passenger door
024. Doors gaps /alignment
025. Dirt/bubbles in rally stripes
026. Door panel not scratched from seat belt.
027. Shift knobs wearing out extremely fast could be faulty material
028. AC system stops blowing cold air in random durations, most likely blockage in AC drainage and/or AC draining into the car instead of beneath it
029. Clunking noise in changing gears
030. Trunk opens with remote and laser cut key
031. USB drive and aux port works
032. Squeaky Breaks
033. GFX installed correctly
034. Rims and tires in good condition (coming off carrier in bad condition/damaged)
035. Check for damage in the interior, basic procedure
036. Check the locking mechanism of both doors
037. Scraping sound for a second when backing up
038. SS emblem on trunk is loose
039. Loose interior windshield trim loose
040. The front GFX lip is not coming loose at the double sided tape
041. The front passenger brake rotors are not wearing with a dark colored groove
042. Hood latch handle on inside of cab doesn't retract properly (just hangs)
043. Scratches in seats
044. Oil cooler leaking
045. Once in every 10-15 times I unlock the car, the drivers side door is still locked, while
the locking knob on the door is in the "up" position
046. Faulty as gauge (improper readings)
047. Missing paint around the headlights
048. Bleed screw on clutch slave cylinder loose
049. Stickers on rockers peeling
050. Scratches on window pillars
051. Misaligned body & door panels as well as hood not centered properly (more to one side then the other)
052. Alignment of doors to dash interior the door interior seems to sag below the dash interior
053. Drivers side roof light( the one with the toggle switch) only works when its toggled over to the passenger side
054. Door sill decals peeling up
055. Paint swirls in driver/passenger door
056. Drive-shaft connection to the differential cracking when dropping the clutch
057. Tach Needle Sticking
058. Wiper motor wiring comes through bottom of the cowling-well in front of the driver. (The fix (decided upon between the dealer and myself) was to re-insulate the wires, cover the harness with a hard, slick plastic covering, drill a small hole in the bottom of the cowling-well (fill the hole with silicone) and use a cable tie down like the rest of the wiper harness uses to secure the harness to the floor of the cowling (the grommet will collapse downward with little force), far away from harm from the wiper arms.)
059. engine makes continuous clicking noise, starting roughly 5 seconds after engine starts
060. Door Sill plates wrinkled on outside edges (both sides)
061. Trunk gasket at bottom of rear window coming off
062. Uneven Dash (driver's side dash is lower then passenger's side)
063. Passenger/Driver's side Fender alignment off. (wheel cover well had to come off, then loosen fender bolt, and it pops right in place)
064. Key won't stay in folded position
065. Faulty Tail lights.
066. Weather stripping at back of rear windows loose (I can literally grab and peel it back).
067. Missing or peeling paint between trunk lid and spoiler (right rear section)—could possibly spread over time down the trunk lid.
068. Driver's seat makes clicking noises when set all the way back.

[gatti-man]

holy snap.

[Entaille]

jesus **** did they just slop the car together and rush it out the door or what?

[0jiggy0]

Holy Fukc GM, get it together.

[SFZ]

Sigh...that list is just plain sad.

[HyperKnight]

LOL I was supposed to get mine last month, but told the salesman I changed my mind. Of course they sold it for like 5k over msrp. Never buy a first year run just to be the first to have one.

[pearl350zzz]

I would consider to get mustang or camaro when they stop making V6..lol

[bassholic]

All first year cars have issues

[HDPDZO6]

Originally Posted by pearl350zzz

I would consider to get mustang or camaro when they stop making V6..lol

But yet you bought an M, even though BMW makes lesser versions...

[Divergent13]

Why am I not surprised? What a pos. Epic FAIL!

[SirSpeedyZ]

Originally Posted by NISMO_558

The camaro just keeps getting better and better, Challenger FTW

Challenger = overpriced, underpowered (for its size/weight) boat


Its sad when I read the comparo for america's muscle cars and the mustang with ~100 hp less than the camaro and ~60 than the challenger won....

Ford FTW????


Quality Control at GM obviously sucks donkey nuts

[SirSpeedyZ]

Originally Posted by HDPDZO6

But yet you bought an M, even though BMW makes lesser versions...

Don't really think the M versions are comparable to the standard versions, but I see your point

[gatti-man]

Originally Posted by bassholic

All first year cars have issues

True but that list is scary. I love the camaro but this is troublesome.

[cwerdna]

Originally Posted by DavesZ#3

The problems only get worse...

Users on Camaro5 forum created a list of stuff to check before taking delivery of their cars --- disclaimer -- no on actually experienced every issue but these are a combined list of isolated experiences people had:

001. Loose Bolts that hold fluid back causing leaks (ex: on oil pan, tranny fluid)
002. Trunk Locking mechanism (issues with opening w/o adding down pressure to top of trunk first and/or emergency release appears to be loose keeping the trunk from locking properly)
003. Loose plastic paneling around the 4-gauges cluster, launch control, cigarette power plug as well as Left and Right A-Pillars Trim Loose, sill trim loose, and dash pannel where doors and dash meet popping open.
...

I dug around on http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30865 and found that they decided to remove the list.

[Datona Jess]

Sorry, I am a Camaro guy through and through
I have had a few and still have my 87

I am sorry to see this...just sadens me really

[*Boose*]

Not going to lie but the 370z seems pretty solid so far. Also if your job was in jeopardy would you still bust ass or not give a ****?

[andycapp]

Originally Posted by 350Zenophile

I don't think it was nearly that bad, but there was a nice strip of weights on my 18" 350Z Track wheels to offset the TPMS.

I'm guessing the genius who mounted those tires must have put the heavy part of the tire direct over the TPMS so that more weights than necessary were needed.