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Just posting this up for anyone who has either not heard of it, or never been to it. Robert Spencer, along with the other bloggers, do a great job of recognizing and commenting on "Jihad" terrorist events around the world. And Robert Spencer is either a guy you love or hate - but he is very, very educated on the subject. But JihadWatch has been doing a great job fighting back against our current administration's attempt to whitewash the use of the term "jihad" from any of it's statements.
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Jihad Watch is dedicated to bringing public attention to the role that jihad theology and ideology play in the modern world and to correcting popular misconceptions about the role of jihad and religion in modern-day conflicts. By shedding as much light as possible on these matters, we hope to alert people of good will to the true nature of the present global conflict.
from what i read, it basically says in there numerous times that we (america) are really not doing much to stop the terrorists and that these ismalic nations have the wrong perception of israel as well ad other western cultures. it also states that not all muslims are bad or supports terrorists. i searched the site looking for how our current administration has been whitewashing the use of the term but came up with a bunch of references, mostly that "whitewashing" is saying that they do not exist. kind of different than what the current administration has said and why i have been deployed there to fight against terrorism. seems if we was truly "whitewashing" it there would be no troops in iraq or afghanistan since there woudl be no one there to fight.
Because non-Muslims in the West, as well as in India, China, Russia, and the world over, are facing a concerted effort by Islamic jihadists, the motives and goals of whom are largely ignored by the Western media, to destroy their societies and bring them forcibly into the Islamic world -- and to commit violence to that end even while their overall goal remains out of reach. That effort goes under the general rubric of jihad.
from what i read, it basically says in there numerous times that we (america) are really not doing much to stop the terrorists and that these ismalic nations have the wrong perception of israel as well ad other western cultures. it also states that not all muslims are bad or supports terrorists. i searched the site looking for how our current administration has been whitewashing the use of the term but came up with a bunch of references, mostly that "whitewashing" is saying that they do not exist. kind of different than what the current administration has said and why i have been deployed there to fight against terrorism. seems if we was truly "whitewashing" it there would be no troops in iraq or afghanistan since there woudl be no one there to fight.
Sorry - by "whitewashing", I and they meant in the media. Homeland Security put out a statement saying that Washington should not use the term "jihad" in any of their addresses to the media.
Political correctness at it's finest. We are too afraid to incite the Muslim community by using terms such as "jihadists". We must say "terrorists", as if their action has nothing to do with the Islamic faith.
I think those at JihadWatch are quite happy with the military action that is being taken. Their fear is the effect of the softness at home and in the media .
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btw, muslim here... and jihad (this coming from a muslim born a bread in an arabic muslim country all his life) does not mean holy war or all that other bullsh!t, it just means struggle, its cause the damn media brainwashed everyone into thinking that that word actually means to wage war or has anything of holy nature... GOING TO SCHOOL IS CONSIDERED JIHAD !!! cause jihad (as a word in the arabic dictionary) means struggle. FULL STOP....
please.. no ignorant replies to this post, im just a person who knows more about a certain topic, here to inform those who know less...
Just as we in the west have a 'crusade' against cancer, or aids, or whatever, its a turn of phrase. The Word 'Crusade' and the word 'Jihad' are the same, its just a matter of relgious ideology. The both mean the same thing, kill the 'infidels'.
Just as we in the west have a 'crusade' against cancer, or aids, or whatever, its a turn of phrase. The Word 'Crusade' and the word 'Jihad' are the same, its just a matter of relgious ideology. The both mean the same thing, kill the 'infidels'.
Just as we in the west have a 'crusade' against cancer, or aids, or whatever, its a turn of phrase. The Word 'Crusade' and the word 'Jihad' are the same, its just a matter of relgious ideology. The both mean the same thing, kill the 'infidels'.
i dont think you understand what i'm saying. No i dont consider the iraq war a crusade. I'm talking about a crusade as in the christan invasion of the holy lands in the middle ages, that was a crusade. And when the arabs reclamed it, that was a Jihad, a war in the name of relgion.
We use the term 'crusade' now in other phrases, not as a holy war, but as huge effort to do/fight something, Diesase, illitercy, poverty, drugs..ect. The arabs only say use the phrase jihad as it was orginally intented to mean, a muslim holy war. We in the west dont use the term much anymore outside of our own countires, as the stigma or christan proscuetion againsts muslim and in rare cases Jews, gives it a bad aura.
The only thing in recent memory that was openly called a crusade and was a war would be the invasion of europe during WW2. But its very policatly stupid to use the term when dealing with arabs, who view the word 'crusade' as most people view the word 'jihad', a war fough 'in the name' of god. Westerners (well, intellegent ones anyway) would rather not have the idea of slaughter and forced conversion thrust into the middle east. The arabs, on the other hand, dont seem to mind at all, hence their mideval style thinking for the most part.
btw, muslim here... and jihad (this coming from a muslim born a bread in an arabic muslim country all his life) does not mean holy war or all that other bullsh!t, it just means struggle, its cause the damn media brainwashed everyone into thinking that that word actually means to wage war or has anything of holy nature... GOING TO SCHOOL IS CONSIDERED JIHAD !!! cause jihad (as a word in the arabic dictionary) means struggle. FULL STOP....
please.. no ignorant replies to this post, im just a person who knows more about a certain topic, here to inform those who know less...
So do you believe in Sharia law, and spreading it around the world? Not sure what year, but at one point 60% of Muslims in England polled wanted to live under Sharia law.
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i dont think you understand what i'm saying. No i dont consider the iraq war a crusade. I'm talking about a crusade as in the christan invasion of the holy lands in the middle ages, that was a crusade. And when the arabs reclamed it, that was a Jihad, a war in the name of relgion.
We use the term 'crusade' now in other phrases, not as a holy war, but as huge effort to do/fight something, Diesase, illitercy, poverty, drugs..ect. The arabs only say use the phrase jihad as it was orginally intented to mean, a muslim holy war. We in the west dont use the term much anymore outside of our own countires, as the stigma or christan proscuetion againsts muslim and in rare cases Jews, gives it a bad aura.
The only thing in recent memory that was openly called a crusade and was a war would be the invasion of europe during WW2. But its very policatly stupid to use the term when dealing with arabs, who view the word 'crusade' as most people view the word 'jihad', a war fough 'in the name' of god. Westerners (well, intellegent ones anyway) would rather not have the idea of slaughter and forced conversion thrust into the middle east. The arabs, on the other hand, dont seem to mind at all, hence their mideval style thinking for the most part.
I've never heard them crusade to improve Christian lives...So why mess with the word jihad when you know crusade is just as misinterpreted? double standard? Jihad's original meaning was in that article I posted...didn't you read it?
I've never heard them crusade to improve Christian lives...So why mess with the word jihad when you know crusade is just as misinterpreted? double standard? Jihad's original meaning was in that article I posted...didn't you read it?
ok, now i'm not understand you. I read your article, but i think we are on two different pages/ideas
I've never heard them crusade to improve Christian lives...So why mess with the word jihad when you know crusade is just as misinterpreted? double standard? Jihad's original meaning was in that article I posted...didn't you read it?
So you believe everything you read huh?
Regardless, this is an Islamic holy war for the "terrorists". No matter how we refer to them, the term we use needs recognize that.
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It doesn't really matter the rosy tint you attempt to place on the word 'jihad', which is known to be an inner spiritual struggle. What matters is what it has become in the Muslim world - because that's the only type of jihad worth speaking of to any Westerner.
It doesn't really matter the rosy tint you attempt to place on the word 'jihad', which is known to be an inner spiritual struggle. What matters is what it has become in the Muslim world - because that's the only type of jihad worth speaking of to any Westerner.
And that type of jihad wants us all dead.
The "rosy tint" was the original meaning and intent of what was supposed to be done. There's plenty of good jihad, like getting an education or taking care of family(which happens all the time), but the media just loooooves to highlight the bad. Go figure
The "rosy tint" was the original meaning and intent of what was supposed to be done. There's plenty of good jihad, like getting an education or taking care of family(which happens all the time), but the media just loooooves to highlight the bad. Go figure
Perhaps you ought to consider that if such a large and unstopped segment of your own culture religion wasn't actively creating the news which is highlighted, it wouldn't be an issue.
We've had this discussion already: Muslims and muslims countries are doing exactly as much about Islamofascism in their culture as blacks are doing about their own black on black crime problem.
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