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Jane Drury voted last year in an election in Stonington, Conn. The only problem is, she died eight years ago.
Her daughter, Jane Gumpel, thought someone must have goofed.
“I was surprised because this is not possible,” she said.
But it did happen. The town clerk’s record clearly shows Drury’s vote, marked by a horizontal line poll workers put next to her name. And it turns out Drury isn’t the only voter who apparently cast a ballot from the grave.
The issue of dead voters showing up on ballot records continues to be a problem for election administrators across the country.
Journalism professor Marcel Dufresne of the University of Connecticut led a class investigation into dead voters and said his group of 11 students discovered 8,558 deceased people who were still registered on Connecticut’s voter rolls. They said more than 300 of them appeared somehow to have cast ballots after they died.
“We have one person who appeared to have voted 17 times since he died,” Dufresne told FOX News.
Dufresne said there is no evidence of any election fraud, but the number of dead voters “shows the system is vulnerable, and it shows that people who are clever and have a little cooperation in the town level, you could use this and get people to vote for people who died.”
Yet Connecticut Secretary of State Susan Bysiewicz is adamant that “actually no dead people voted.”
“I want to be very clear about that,” she said, explaining that while votes were cast and counted in the names of the dead, “there was no voter fraud at all in the state of Connecticut.”
“Did we have clerical errors where the wrong voter was crossed off? Yes,” she said.
But ballots cast in the names of the dead were counted in her state and in others. In the 2004 governor’s race in Washington state, officials confirmed 19 votes were cast by people who were dead. Republican Dino Rossi lost that election by only 133 votes.
“It was the closest governor’s race in U.S. history. After the fact we found a number of dead people voted. I don’t know how they voted — you have to talk to Shirley MacLaine about that,” Rossi said.
While in Connecticut, officials say poll workers confused the names of dead people with real voters, some of the dead votes were absentee ballots apparently filled out illegally by relatives.
Removing the names of the deceased from voter rolls could solve the problem of post-mortem voting, but local election officials like registrar Andrea Eppling say that’s not as easy as it might appear.
“The reason why is that if you go into a nursing home in the next town and you die there — we’re not going to find out.” Eppling said that such information isn’t shared by towns and among the states — something Connecticut’s top election official Secretary Bysiewicz says is changing.
“It’s critical that we have clean and accurate voting lists especially as we go into this very high turnout in November,” Bysiewicz said.
Connecticut removed 5,000 of the deceased from its voter rolls in the last two months.
And since the last presidential election, more than 2 million dead people have been identified, and dropped, from the nation’s voting rolls.
Presumably, Jane Drury won’t be voting again, even as her daughter remains stumped that a ballot was cast in her mother’s name in the first place.
“I couldn’t imagine because I didn’t think she voted — it was an impossible situation to me,” she said.
Officials say when it comes to dead voters, most of the problems are simply mistakes, not political corruption. But they admit that as long as the deceased remain registered to vote, the potential for fraud is alive and well.
You mean to tell me you thought you had a say in who is our next president?
Electoral college what? Popular vote is what they manipulate to make it appear as though its what WE want.
You mean to tell me you thought you had a say in who is our next president?
Electoral college what? Popular vote is what they manipulate to make it appear as though its what WE want.
Being from Lake County, Indiana, and working in Chicago, doens't surprise me at all. Dead people vote Democrat around here all the time. I think it's the only way Mayor Daley (Chicago) is still mayor. Seeing how sales tax in Chicago is going to go up to 10.25% in November (city, Cook County, and of course, Illinois are all taking their ample share), I don't see how this man keeps getting elected.
Oh, it's because of the great roads. No, wait, that's wrong, I destroyed the shocks on my DD last winter. Maybe it's because of the great public transportation. No, wait, they're raising fares and still about to go bankrupt... Oh, because they're going to spend billions of dollars to try to get the Olympics to Chicago. Because we want that?
And why, during the Indiana primary, did all of the other counties have their votes in that evening, but Lake County didn't submit theirs until 6am the next morning? CNN was laughing at us, implying we were stuffing the ballot box (for Obama, of course). It's embarrasing.
<--- really hates the corrupt politics in this region.
My grandmother lived in Chicago and hasn't missed voting Democrat in 40 years - of course she's been dead nearly 30 of those year but being the true patriot she still manages to make each election.
It is actually ILLEGAL to ask for and ID when you vote. I know the name of everyone up and down the street and could just walk in and say I'm Mr. Gonzales and cast his vote. Among the dumbest laws in the nation the requirement to be a US citizen to cast a vote is no longer enforced. There are tables of people set up in front of every local market place soliciting passer-bys to register to vote. They NO NOT ask if you're a citizen prior to registering you. My Thai wife is asked all the time to register by these guys - they get paid for each one they get so they're not concerned about looking for citizens.
It's super that we allow those from other countries who might not have the chance to vote in their elections to vote in ours.
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Voting is a sacred institution that no organization would ever try to rig or exploit in any way. To assume or suggest otherwise is a tinfoil conspiracy.
Voting is a sacred institution that no organization would ever try to rig or exploit in any way. To assume or suggest otherwise is a tinfoil conspiracy.
Your sarcasm got old a long time ago. You should consider starting to offer something useful, or choosing not to post.
In Wisconsin, the Republicans have been attempting to get a voter ID bill passed for over 10 years. The Democrats, including our socialist pinhead Governor, have obstructed and opposed it the entire way.
That is all anyone needs to know regarding just which party is benefitting from voter fraud.
Leave it to CT to make the pinpoint of the article haha. Stupid dead Democrats. They were stupid casting blue votes when they were alive, let alone dead.
haha that's the first thing that popped into my head too. All i can see is that cack head Gary Busey talking about how his dad and grand dad died during war and were unable to vote but somehow did.
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Her daughter, Jane Gumpel, thought someone must have goofed.
“I was surprised because this is not possible,” she said.
“I couldn’t imagine because I didn’t think she voted — it was an impossible situation to me,” she said.
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Yet Connecticut Secretary of State Susan Bysiewicz is adamant that “actually no dead people voted.”
“I want to be very clear about that,” she said, explaining that while votes were cast and counted in the names of the dead, “there was no voter fraud at all in the state of Connecticut.”
“Did we have clerical errors where the wrong voter was crossed off? Yes,” she said.
Wow... those are gems. Either these people need some sarcasm emotes or they're really friggin stupid...
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Your sarcasm got old a long time ago. You should consider starting to offer something useful, or choosing not to post.
In Wisconsin, the Republicans have been attempting to get a voter ID bill passed for over 10 years. The Democrats, including our socialist pinhead Governor, have obstructed and opposed it the entire way.
That is all anyone needs to know regarding just which party is benefitting from voter fraud.
Yup - a lot of fraud going on with the Democrats up here. My dad has been voting in Milwaukee for a long time now, and had many times believed that his vote did not count ("broken" voting machine, shady characters working the voting booths, etc). Then when the Sheriff's Dept did an investigation they found many cases of fraud, yet the Dems don't want to do anything about it.
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Dead people can still vote in this country!!
