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View Poll Results: do you want BO to fail, regadless?
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Old 03-02-2009, 07:33 AM   #1
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Default Do you want BO to Fail regardless?

So, People wonder why they make Rush such a big deal, the fact is as it can be clearly seen on this forum in general his views are very well the same as what some here say.


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funny in 06 he said “I’m getting so sick and tired of people rooting for the defeat of the good guys,”

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This question isnt intended at one party, or as a call out. THis question isnt also specific to a single particular topic.
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I don't think anyone in their right mind wants the bailout to fail. I don't agree with the bailout but I do like the intent. I want to see a strong economy and things going well. I don't think that the bailout is the correct way to go about it but I don't want it to fail just to prove a point.
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Old 03-02-2009, 07:50 AM   #3
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I don't think anyone in their right mind wants the bailout to fail. I don't agree with the bailout but I do like the intent. I want to see a strong economy and things going well. I don't think that the bailout is the correct way to go about it but I don't want it to fail just to prove a point.
I has a lot of tax cuts, so its not just a one way method. Did you voted?
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Wanting it to fail = stubbornness. Not a good trait to have.


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I voted 'yes' because I want the socialist agenda to fail. Nothing personal towards BO.
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socialist... lol.
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This is a terrible poll. Regardless of what? I want his socialist agenda to fail, yes. I like that he wants to pull out of Iraq though.
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This is a terrible poll. Regardless of what? I want his socialist agenda to fail, yes. I like that he wants to pull out of Iraq though.
ok, just for you:...vote yes or no.

do you want the economy to keep taking to..lets say dow 4000 points, unemplyment 15%....just to prove your point



Actually just vote overall, overall you gotta be able to tell youserlf based on how much you agree or dissagree if you answer is YES or NO. LIke, for example i am pretty sure "theonewhowillnotbenamed" is definatly hoping non of his ideas work, or AOG....do you also hope for the same...
I am also pretty sure there is no middle ground for you on the economy, but what about all ther other issues?
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ok, just for you:...vote yes or no.

do you want the economy to keep taking to..lets say dow 4000 points, unemplyment 15%....just to prove your point



Actually just vote overall, overall you gotta be able to tell youserlf based on how much you agree or dissagree if you answer is YES or NO. LIke, for example i am pretty sure "theonewhowillnotbenamed" is definatly hoping non of his ideas work, or AOG....do you also hope for the same...
I am also pretty sure there is no middle ground for you on the economy, but what about all ther other issues?
Wat? Have you and Eazzy been hanging out again?
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do you want the economy to keep taking to..lets say dow 4000 points, unemplyment 15%....just to prove your point
Everybody who disagrees with you doesn't want the world to fall into chaos to prove a point. Just because we think the government has no business getting involved in the financial markets doesn't mean we want people cooking shoe leather for dinner.

The difference between me and you is that I see the underlying causes of this meltdown being created by the government. The government kept interest rates artificially low and created an investment environment which favored real estate over other things. This created a bubble that fooled people into investing in real estate where it appeared profitable because of the artificial interference. You blame the corporate douchebags who took advantage of the situation, I blame the situation.

NO, of course I don't want feral bands of orphans wandering the streets, but there MUST be a cost to bad investment decisions. Without it, you're creating an environment where it actually become profitable to make bad decisions.
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it is always the government. people taking advantage of interest rates (somehow equals over leveraged banks and derivatives products) = not their fault, it's the government. you are going to tell me the best and the brightest didn't have an idea what they were doing? they were duped into it with low interest rates.

I thought we were all for personal responsibility here?

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I don't think anyone in their right mind wants the bailout to fail. I don't agree with the bailout but I do like the intent. I want to see a strong economy and things going well. I don't think that the bailout is the correct way to go about it but I don't want it to fail just to prove a point.
There are definitely other alternatives. Frankly, the bailout has already been proven ineffective, and not regulated enough.

Frankly, I hope this "bailout" works, but it is highly unlikely it will do anything but delay the inevitable...
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Moreso than anything, I like the fact that he making the tough decisions and having those summits to get the best minds in the same room to come to a common goal. I hope he and the bail-out succeeds, only because our economy needs it more than me being an Obama supporter.
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There are definitely other alternatives. Frankly, the bailout has already been proven ineffective, and not regulated enough.

Frankly, I hope this "bailout" works, but it is highly unlikely it will do anything but delay the inevitable...
explain to me how the bailout has been proven ineffective? I'll wait.
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imho, obama has alot on his plate, especially because hes the first african american president (not trying to play the race card here but its inevitable). i strongly believe that he can do this nation good, hence the reason i voted for him. guess we just have to wait and see
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it is always the government. people taking advantage of interest rates (somehow equals over leveraged banks and derivatives products) = not their fault, it's the government. you are going to tell me the best and the brightest didn't have an idea what they were doing? they were duped into it with low interest rates.

I thought we were all for personal responsibility here?
Who's saying it's not their fault? I JUST said that these companies need to suffer the consequences of their poor decision making.
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Who's saying it's not their fault? I JUST said that these companies need to suffer the consequences of their poor decision making.
The corporate 'douchebags' created the situation, not the government. that is like blaming a gun manufacturer for a shooting. low interest rates are fine on their own. They don't lead to over leveraged banks, complex financial products that they circumvent regulations to get AAA rated... etc etc etc. The corporations should and I think ARE suffering the consequences of their actions... banks at a tenth of their market cap they had a year ago... shareholders being wiped out (and more to come hopefully). bank lending rates aren't set by the government. interbank lending rates aren't set by the government. not to say that the fed doesn't bear part of the blame for this mess, of course. there is a lot of fail to go around.
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Tricky poll here QS, I truly do not believe that his fiscal agenda works in the real world (especially not in a huge diverse country like the USA). I know for a fact that his gun grabbing agenda does not work and is blatantly unconstitutional.

If his trillion-dollar bailout economy recovery works, I'll obviously be happy and enjoy the benefit but I honestly do not see it working.

I can't support something that I believe is wrong or incorrect.
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Anyone hear the Buffett report today? He was not quite the lil ball of sunshine about the market for 2009 and into 2010. Not that his opinion is what will guide the market, but I was thinking the same thing for some time. I just don't see how it will work. Don't take that as I don't want it to work, because I do. I/we will see what turns out, although, I think it is going to take a few years if not more to see the true results.

That being said, how long till we see the negative effects (if any) of the bail out?
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