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10 to 12 of his cabinet were lobbyist . Another one of his lies . But lets not focus on what he told us he was going to do when he got in office......IT isnt important ! lol
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People who believe in Obama do so with the utmost trust and sincerity, believing they are the ones who are correct on the issues. They do so because the were brought up in a reality where everything they say about Obama is true, and the counter points you (Gr8grz and Booger) make are completely disgusting lies.
The liberal education system, the liberal media, they all portray themselves, and the DNC as something that it is not. Liberal voters cling to their Democratic status because they perceive reality in a way that anyone in their "right mind" would choose to be democratic as well. They continue to cling to the hope that the DNC and its members will one day deliver on all those "promises" they have been promising the masses for generations. Many people thought when Obama was elected that these promises would come to fruition, but the threads are beginning to come undone. One by one people will recognize that politicians are politicians, and campaign promises are for campaigning. Once you get elected, it's the real world. Regardless of party, politics has gotten so out of hand in the recent years.
Bush was a failure in conservative terms, and a complete disaster in liberal terms. He failed to meet or address many conservative issues and completely ruined the conservative name for most Americans. Bush's shortcomings where a wake up call to Conservatives that conservative Ideals had been watered down overtime. Conservatives recognize that it is time to re-new the conservative spirit and clean up the mess the George Bush made.
Liberals on the other hand have been dreaming of a chance to have a Liberal President, and be unrestrained by having a liberal congress as well. Liberals have also lost their way. Instead of offering different solutions and opinions to counter the conservatives, they have drifted so far to the left, they have forgotten American principles and ideals, choosing to follow failed ideas already tried elsewhere around the world.
I wish Obama the best of luck for all of our sakes and for this Country as well. However, looking at his track record, his cabinet selections and the people he chooses to surround himself with, I don't not know for sure how this will all turn out.
I believe Obama may be the wake up call that liberals need, just like Bush was for conservatives. We must regain our strength in this country by renewing the principles from which this country was founded, Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Freedom and equality for all.
Life, in that all should be given the chance to live, Liberty in that we should be alowed all of our rights entitled to us in the constitution. The pursuit of happiness in that we should be able to pursue our hopes and dreams without "caps" or "limits" on how high we can succeed. Freedom, to succeed, and freedom to fail. People must have the risk of failing or else there are no consequences of making poor choices. Equality in that all people should be given fair and equal opportunities. No one should be given precedence over another, nor should anyone be held back for someone else to benefit.
Our two party system has failed us, offering us as choice between two evils. We must demand more honest and responsible officials each time it comes to elect new ones. Both parties have caused the Federal government to become so large that it interferes with almost every aspect of life. Remember, anything the government gives you, it can take from you. That includes money, health care, and food. The more power the government has, the less you as an individual have to control your own life.
Your words are my thoughts exactly . If the ways of both parties continue , a 3rd party should and will rise to lead this country back on the track we have drifted away from .
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10 to 12 of his cabinet were lobbyist . Another one of his lies . But lets not focus on what he told us he was going to do when he got in office......IT isnt important ! lol
You are wrong and you cannot name the 10 lobbyist cabinet members...
I'll be waiting...
As I said. You cannot and will not name 10 of 12 cabinet members that were lobbyists.
You are off to a bad start this Sunday morning......
I see your day as the one that hasnt a good start.....Im having a great day watching you try to get me into a debate with you !
A debate has to start with a sentence explaining a thought . A good debater then takes each word of that sentence and explains why his meaning of that word differs from the other debator . In the prosses the real thought or sentence is lost and the debators are left with only words that have no relation to the thought they started to debate in the first place. The winner is the guy that can explain each WORD better .
And that sir .....is your life .....you want to debate to make your self fell good .
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Timothy F. Geithner
Obama Cabinet Position: Treasury Secretary
Political Party: Democrat
Career: Ford Foundation, Kissinger and Associates (Major Lobbying Firm), IMF, Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Under Secretary of Treasury under Larry Summers and Robert Rubin.
Member: Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission
Notable Events: In 2007, he brokered the sale of Bear Stearns to JP Morgan using taxpayer money.
Spouse: Carole M Sonnenfeld, Lobbyist
Larry Summers
Obama Cabinet Position: White House’s National Economic Council
Political Party: Democrat
Career: Council of Economic Advisers under President Reagan, World Bank, Deputy Secretary of the Treasury under Robert Rubin (Clinton Administration). Harvard University, D. E. Shaw & Co (New York-based hedge fund)
Member: Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission
Notable Events: World Bank Pollution Memo in which Summers argued that developed countries ought to export more pollution to developing countries because these countries would incur the lowest cost from the pollution.
Summers’ opposition at Harvard: March 15, 2005, members of Harvard’s Faculty passed 218–185 a motion of “lack of confidence” in the leadership of Summers
Rahm Emanuel
Obama Cabinet Position: White House Chief of Staff
Political Party: Democrat
Career: Israeli Army, Wasserstein Perella (Investment Bank), Board of Directors of Freddie Mac, US Congress.
Member: Israeli Lobby: Rahm is an influential member of AIPAC (American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee), which is the right wing Israel lobbying group.
Notable Events: Supports The War in Iraq and The Patriot Act.
Rahm’s father: Benjamin, was a member of the Irgun, the terrorist organization that coined a new word as they blew up hotels, train stations, and other buildings in Palestine in the 1930s and 40s. They took credit for the King David Hotel bombing.
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Obama Cabinet Position: Secretary of State
Political Party: Democrat
Career: Rose Law Firm (Legal/Lobbyist). Board of Directors TCBY, Walmart, & Lafarge
Member: Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission
Spouse: Bill Clinton
Voting Record: Voted FOR the invasion of Iraq. Voted FOR the Patriot Act.
Tom Daschle
Obama Cabinet Position: Health and Human Services
Political Party: Democrat.
Career: Former US Senator from South Dakota
Member: Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission
Lobbyist: Senior Policy Advisor with K Street Lobbying firm Alston & Bird.
Clients: CVS Caremark, National Association for Home Care and Hospice, Abbott Laboratories and HealthSouth
Spouse: Linda Hall, Lobbyist
Voting Record: Voted FOR the invasion of Iraq. Voted FOR the Patriot Act.
Eric Holder
Obama Cabinet Position: US Attorney General
Political Party: Democrat
Previous Office: US Deputy Attorney General (Clinton), Federal Judge in DC appointed by Reagan.
Member: Council on Foreign Relations Attorney/Lobbyist: Covington & Burling in Washington, D.C which is a major legal and lobbying firm.
Clients: Merck, National Football League, Chiquita Brands. The firm also served as “corporate affairs consultants” to Philip Morris.
Spouse: Sharon Malone, MD
6/10 isn't 10/10 but i need to go check out a new fairwood at golf galaxy for now
Yep. My life won't be complete until you backup your claim that you clearly pulled out of your azz...
I'll give you until the end of the day to come up with the 10 cabinet members....
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What you want is for me to search for is something that has been in the news with every person B. O-Liar has appointed that have had a past of being a lobbyist . It might take me a half hour to name them all or a half a day...dont know . But it sure isnt worth my time to please you .
If you feel you are smarter because I will not waist my time with something every one knows is true . That Barack O-Liar lied when he said he would not appoint lobbyiest to his cabinet . Then you can have it ........you win the debate we never had , you are smarter !!!!!! lmfao !<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
BurnMac decided to go through the trouble . But you know who they are and you want to debate who is and who isnt.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
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Thanks Burnmac. I had it at 5, but it surely isn't 10. Tom daschle isn't in his cabinet. He was only a nominee and Larry Summers is not a cabinet member. Rahm Emanuel is iffy because he is not a member of the cabinet, but he does have cabinet level rank.
What booger doesn't know is that there are 16 cabinet officers, not 12. That's for starters. And yes, some of his appointees were previous lobbyists.
Obama flip flopped on this and relaxed his "no lobbyists" pledge soon after becoming President-Elect.
I love it when people can produce facts and not simply talk out their azz.......
Thanks...however that was with only 1 search for about 2 minutes....I can probably turn up more...I guess my biggest issue is I realize that all politicians lie and sadly we have had to come and accept that...its just that it seems Obama has lied an aweful lot to get into position AND people are writing it off as "excusable or well its because Bush blah blah blah" instead of owning up to the fact that he is not the savior the media (and himself) was made out to be and that he has already gone back on(or spun off) almost everything he promised.....and it doesn't help when he surrounds himself with alot of really shady figures
[quote=Sizzle;7047173]Thanks Burnmac. I had it at 5, but it surely isn't 10. Tom daschle isn't in his cabinet. He was only a nominee and Larry Summers is not a cabinet member. Rahm Emanuel is iffy because he is not a member of the cabinet, but he does have cabinet level rank.
What booger doesn't know is that there are 16 cabinet officers, not 12. That's for starters. And yes, some of his appointees were previous lobbyists.
Obama flip flopped on this and relaxed his "no lobbyists" pledge soon after becoming President-Elect.
I love it when people can produce facts and not simply talk out their azz.......[/quote
Who said there was 12 cabinet officers ? wasnt me ...I said there were 10 to 12 Lobbyist . You could think of 5 of the six he came up with [ so you say ] . I knew of four and was watching Glen Beck and he reported that there were 12 . I didnt want to look them up for you . It isnt going to take much to find all of them and you know it . For me to jump because you want me to....lol please . So you see sir.....your internet EGO isnt impressing any one .
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Please learn how to properly quote. Your posts are hard on the eyes.
Like I said , you can't and won't name them. Until you do, you fail at facts. regurgitating Glenn Beck's BS is all you've done here. Just as I suspected by the way.
And so far we only have 3. 3 of the folks Burn named aren't in Obama's cabinet. I know of 2 more...
Please learn how to properly quote. Your posts are hard on the eyes.
Like I said , you can't and won't name them. Until you do, you fail at facts. regurgitating Glenn Beck's BS is all you've done here. Just as I suspected by the way.
And so far we only have 3. 3 of the folks Burn named aren't in Obama's cabinet. I know of 2 more...
Your EGO hurts my eye
You havent named any names and havent came up with one fact . And Im suppose to go search for all 12 of the names because you asked ? And you of course [ like all good wacko left wingers ] down play my source of info as BS .
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