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Interesting article about the Ft. Hood shooter and the POTUS
An interesting Op-ed piece from Ralph Peters of the NYP:
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Ft. Hood's 9/11
In the wake of the terrorist strike on our soldiers at Fort Hood, one individual’s still missing in action: Our commander in chief. The massacre’s 51 casualties, including 13 dead, were insufficient to drag President Obama away from the White House Happy Hour.
We just saw the worst terror attack on America since 9/11. And Obama couldn’t adjust his schedule to support our grieving troops.
Instead, we got his subtle defense of the perp: Unwilling to use the word “terror,” let alone the phrase “Islamist terror,” Obama warned us not to “rush to judgment.”
A Muslim fanatic, known to the FBI as a fan of suicide bombers and to colleagues as an opponent of our government, coolly buys weapons, heads to a military facilityhe knows will be packed with unsuspecting soldiers, waits for the crowd to thicken, then shouts, “Allah is great!” and guns down 51 patriots, calmly reloading among the dead and dying.
But don’t rush to judgment.
Imagine if, instead of Fort Hood, the massacre had gone down at a mosque in Detroit — carried out by a maddened Christian or Jew. Obama would’ve been aboard Air Force One before the pilots had time to file a flight plan and he would’ve been on site before the gun smoke cleared, hugging and boo-hooing and dispensing stirring rhetoric for the evening news.
But go out of his way to rally our butchered troops? Not a chance. It’s not like they’re real human beings with Ivy League degrees. When Obama got word of the attack, he didn’t even lose his fabled cool.
Obama may be shamed into visiting Ft. Hood at some point, but his priority since Thursday has remained socializing American medicine. What happens in Texas, stays in Texas.
Move on? Yes we can!
Of course, this act of Islamist terrorism has been an inconvenience to a president whose administration insists there’s no such thing. Those dead and wounded soldiers are such an embarrassment. If only a Baptist or Lutheran had been the shooter, things would’ve been so much tidier.
What’s next? The White House is going to bring heavy pressure on the FBI, through Attorney General Eric Holder, to play down investigative results confirming that Maj. Nidal Hasan was motivated by his Muslim beliefs.
Instead, we’ll hear even more about the “harassment” Hasan suffered as the media toe the line laid down by the vile lead editorial in Saturday’s New York Times and how this calculating terrorist contracted PTSD from his patients.
Let me kill the harassment myth right now: Political correctness rules in today’s Army. We even protect our enemies these days. Had any soldier harassed Hasan because of his Islamist nuttiness, that soldier would’ve disappeared faster than a Franklin on a Times Square sidewalk.
Any snarky remarks directed toward Hasan — if there were any — would’ve come in reaction to his railing against our government, our military’s mission and the monstrous injustice that, after grabbing an education in psychiatry worth hundreds of thousands of dollars from our military, he might have had to do his duty.
Far from being harassed himself, this creep was allowed to harass the soldiers he treated for stress disorders. According to colleagues, Hasan not only argued with his patients about our wars, but preached Islam to those under his care. (Just what troubled vets needed, no doubt.)
Prejudice? You bet. In this terrorist’s favor. Nobody in Hasan’s chain of command had the sense of duty to weed this pervert out. Why? Hasan would’ve accused them of discrimination. And the officer who brought charges against Hasan would’ve been the one whose career suffered.
Since writing on this travesty in the Post and speaking out on Fox News, I’ve been deluged with supportive messages — many from soldiers outraged at the politically correct treatment of this terrorist by the media, by senior military leaders — and by the president.
How many more Americans have to die, at home and in war, before our president admits that there is, indeed, such a thing as Islamist terror? Will he ever admit that it played a role in the tragedy at Fort Hood?
Not a chance. Islam’s a religion of peace. America’s the problem. And don’t you forget it.
I'm not sure why he's directing the majority of this at the POTUS, although I understand his point. I believe this is another example of how society has changed in the US to being so PC that we trample on common sense.
On a side-note, I hope this thread isn't looked at like the "homos and AIDS" thread that was closed last year.
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
blowing up government buildings does not mean you don't love the country. The reasons for doing so does, however. Just a thought...
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Now that would just be un-PC now wouldn't it. Muslims are all peace loving people and we can't offend anyone. Especially with that apologetic to everyone who hates America socialist in the White House right now.
An interesting Op-ed piece from Ralph Peters of the NYP:
I'm not sure why he's directing the majority of this at the POTUS, although I understand his point. I believe this is another example of how society has changed in the US to being so PC that we trample on common sense.
On a side-note, I hope this thread isn't looked at like the "homos and AIDS" thread that was closed last year.
Could you give us a link to the article please?
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Question- an article on yahoo I read on the day that it happened stated that he lodged a complaint with the police or security people in his apartment complex (can't remember exactly) saying that a bumper sticker which said "Allah is Love" (or something along those lines) was torn off his car and his car was keyed.
It's obvious he went off the deep end after this.
The article in the first post seems to insinuate that this was a "terrorist attack". This doesn't seem to me to be an attempt to terrorize the American people or the military, but a revenge against people who he thought were intolerant against his religion.
Anyway, Obama definitely acted like an ass with this- he should have come out within an hour with a serious statement about the situation. He's too worried about ruffling Muslim feathers abroad with strong word when strong words are called for.
Does that mean Christianity is the religion of hate?
Yes, because in the Bible, it suggests that Christians should kill all non-believers. Wait, did I say the Bible? I could be confused with another holy book. Can someone clarify?
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
blowing up government buildings does not mean you don't love the country. The reasons for doing so does, however. Just a thought...
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So because he is muslim he can't just be insane? Didn't he work for the military as a psych for years? Dude just flipped and killed a bunch of people. That isn't a terrorist attack, it is just a tragedy. For it to be a terrorist attack isn't there supposed to be some goal or organization? This was just murder to me.
Question- an article on yahoo I read on the day that it happened stated that he lodged a complaint with the police or security people in his apartment complex (can't remember exactly) saying that a bumper sticker which said "Allah is Love" (or something along those lines) was torn off his car and his car was keyed.
It's obvious he went off the deep end after this.
The article in the first post seems to insinuate that this was a "terrorist attack". This doesn't seem to me to be an attempt to terrorize the American people or the military, but a revenge against people who he thought were intolerant against his religion.
Anyway, Obama definitely acted like an ass with this- he should have come out within an hour with a serious statement about the situation. He's too worried about ruffling Muslim feathers abroad with strong word when strong words are called for.
good points.
Religion has done so much for the world lately......so much good that we should definitely keep it around.
Question- an article on yahoo I read on the day that it happened stated that he lodged a complaint with the police or security people in his apartment complex (can't remember exactly) saying that a bumper sticker which said "Allah is Love" (or something along those lines) was torn off his car and his car was keyed.
It's obvious he went off the deep end after this.
The article in the first post seems to insinuate that this was a "terrorist attack". This doesn't seem to me to be an attempt to terrorize the American people or the military, but a revenge against people who he thought were intolerant against his religion.
Anyway, Obama definitely acted like an ass with this- he should have come out within an hour with a serious statement about the situation. He's too worried about ruffling Muslim feathers abroad with strong word when strong words are called for.
+1............. its shameful that he didnt speak up
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So because he is muslim he can't just be insane? Didn't he work for the military as a psych for years? Dude just flipped and killed a bunch of people. That isn't a terrorist attack, it is just a tragedy. For it to be a terrorist attack isn't there supposed to be some goal or organization? This was just murder to me.
He is both muslim and insane. He killed 13 innocent people while shouting, "Allah ahkbar". This guy said that the war on terror is a war on islam and the action of suicide bombers are justified.
His goal was to kill non-believers, his organization is islam. It was murder and it terrorized everyone around him. He's a islamic terrorist.
What's so wrong with pointing out the obvious? Is it that society has trained you to not offend them?
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
blowing up government buildings does not mean you don't love the country. The reasons for doing so does, however. Just a thought...
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When you overuse labels like terrorist you make the meaningless. While there are lots of names you could describe him with, terrorist is inappropriate. Unless we find that he was something more than a single disturbed religious guy, he's just a murderer.
Yes, because in the Bible, it suggests that Christians should kill all non-believers. Wait, did I say the Bible? I could be confused with another holy book. Can someone clarify?
When you overuse labels like terrorist you make the meaningless. While there are lots of names you could describe him with, terrorist is inappropriate. Unless we find that he was something more than a single disturbed religious guy, he's just a murderer.
Unless you're being sarcastic... I am genuinely impressed jesse.
In case no one has noticed, Obama is extremely careful with what he says (sometimes to a fault, I'll grant you.) I think (hope) that's what we saw here. We saw what happened when he WASN'T careful (professor-gate), and this is much more serious IMO.
FWIW, and I know it'll come as no surprise, I agree with this comment posted about the article (unedited for clarity):
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I am disgusted. Am I the only one who can see the hate dripping off of this article? I do NOT mean hate for the shooter, he deserves all the hate he can get, I mean hate in general, hate for anyone of any kind of muslim decent. This is dangerous and frightening. This article quite literally comes to the conclusion that disagreeing with your government's policy is a large piece of evidence towards being a terrorist. The article then goes on to say many negative things about the Obama administration...therefore that's strike one against Mr. Peters here, he's doing the same thing that should have been a warning sign that the shooter was a terrorist, according to his article. I suppose it's perfectly fine for Ralph Peters to critique his government and not be a terrorist...because he's lucky enough to be caucasion. Articles like this are inspiring the hatred that is destroying our country. What happened on thursday was awful. I for one am going to focus on mourning the service men we lost rather than turning the issue into an opportunity to attack the democratic administation. The GOP have become shamless losers...can you not even take a moment to care about this tradgety with out trying to turn it in to a shamless political tool? SHAME ON YOU ALL.
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His goal was to kill non-believers, his organization is islam. It was murder and it terrorized everyone around him. He's a islamic terrorist.
Yeah dude. He was a service member for over twenty years slowly concocting his plan for world domination. When the time is right... HE WILL STRIKE! FOR ALLAH!
Actually, he just lost it and shot a bunch of people like an *******. When he wakes up, he should be put in front of a firing squad.
People invoke the name of "our" western God All|The|Time and do crazy ****. How many times have you heard of murderers that say "god told them to do it"?
You can try to turn this into whatever you want, but in the end, it is simply a man who flipped out. Crediting him as a terrorists is really doing a disservice to actual terrorists who put effort into their murders.
... haha, that's a pretty awesome statement I just made.
Yeah dude. He was a service member for over twenty years slowly concocting his plan for world domination. When the time is right... HE WILL STRIKE! FOR ALLAH!
Actually, he just lost it and shot a bunch of people like an *******. When he wakes up, he should be put in front of a firing squad.
People invoke the name of "our" western God All|The|Time and do crazy ****. How many times have you heard of murderers that say "god told them to do it"?
You can try to turn this into whatever you want, but in the end, it is simply a man who flipped out. Crediting him as a terrorists is really doing a disservice to actual terrorists who put effort into their murders.
... haha, that's a pretty awesome statement I just made.
Playing it down, ignoring the obvious...you're so part of the problem. Let me ask you this...is there a prominent Christian terrorist movement going on right now? Are we fighting two wars against Christians?
Then why try to compare the two? You people water it down because face value hurts your feelings.
Good job, you make our country suck more.
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
blowing up government buildings does not mean you don't love the country. The reasons for doing so does, however. Just a thought...
Evo VIII - AMS 2.3L Mivec Stroker, AMS GT3076, AEM Black, some bells, couple whistles - 432AWHP on pump
Interesting article about the Ft. Hood shooter and the POTUS
