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Old 06-25-2004, 10:01 PM   #1
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I work at Loews Cineplex here in Pittsburgh. It's one of those huge new theatres with 22 auditoriums, a restaurant, cafe, vip seating etc. Anyway, Farenheit 911 came out today and man I have never seen such a long line to get into the movie theatre. I didn't work there for Star Wars or Lord of the Rings but this line went all the way down the huge hallway , around the corner and damn near out of the door. It was pretty insane, guys were like in the theatre handing out anti bush fliers and had to be told to stop like 3 times. I didn't even think this movie was gonna be in the theatre because it is so politically charged, but it was there in full force. If this is any indication of how this movie is opening around the country, then Bush is all out of luck. I didn't see it myself but there were sooo many enthusiastically liberal people there, that it really made me feel good about the city I live in and it's inhabitants. Like I said in a different thread, there don't seem to be many republicans who live in the city, I suppose all of them are clustered in their suburban wonderlands. Anyway just wanted to share this, because I think it is really good news if the movie is anything like what I expect it to be. Michael Moore is a genius regardless of if you think he's correct or incorrect in his political standpoint, you've got to admit that he's really nailed it on the head this time. Judging by the number of people there, I'd say he definetely has the potential to sway as many as 5 or 6 percent of the nation to his side, and even if it's only 1 or 2 percent that really makes a HUGE differance in an election this close. I think all kinds of big independent film makers are going to follow suit and start using their films as an extremely powerful tool to reel people into their cause. Bush is really f*cked now though cause I don't think there are any conservatives creative enough to make any sort of documentary or film, halfway worth watching. This reminds me of how Frank Sinatra helped JFK win his election, it must really be something to weild that kind of power with only your creative genius. Writers will never come close to getting the sort of target audience Michael Moore has zero'ed in on here, he's just hit the political jackpot if you ask me.
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that was perhaps the worst movie i have ever seen, every one who has seen that movie is now stupider. His entire thesis was wrong and all of his evidence was circumstantial and extremely weak. He showed images of Iraqi children dieing after American bombs fell on them, then in the very next shot he has a bunch of US soldiers talking about how they like to listen to “Let the Bodies Hit the Floor.” The conclusion that I drew from this was that the American Soldiers were bad for attacking the Iraqi people and that they are responsible for these children suffering. Then he shows this women who’s house was bomb and she is asking for God to attack the Infidels and revenge her family members deaths. Every one in the theater was silent at this part and I think most people felt guilt for this, while I was like well that too bad for you women it’s a war people die maybe if ur country men didn’t support terrorism we would have had to do this. All this movie did was make me think that Michael Moore hate America more. It also made me want to go out and make sure that Bush gets reelected and John Kerry never holds another political office.
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Woodyear, all you've proven is that the people of Pittsburg are pissed off at Bush for dropping the tariffs against foreign steel. Most people (liberals included) are intelligent enough to know the difference between propaganda (which F9/11 is) and a fact-based documentary (which F9/11 is not).
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I cant believe that some people can call themselves americans but cant even support our nations leader in a time of war. Go ahead, talk your **** but you couldnt any better. What do you think we should do?, let Iraq continue to threaten countries until one day they do more damage than 9/11. Be Real.
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Countries threaten other countries man, that's what countries do. Get over it, can't just go take over whatever countries we don't like out of fear, that's what almost caused the end of the civilized world during the Cold War. It's a primitive solution at best. Moreover Carlos, you say that you felt no guilt about the lady whos house got blown up and her family was all killed because it's war and people die? Well then I guess you just blew it off when those 2 american fellows got their heads sawed off too, because that's war and it's what happens. Nah, quite the contrary, I bet you were one of the guys crying about how we should nuke them and get it over with. Maybe we should nuke people like you instead.
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>> Maybe we should nuke people like you instead.

Wow, great comeback. You sound more and more intelligent with every post.
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sooooooo? are you saying its cool that Iraq is threating us. Thats ok cuz they just do that. I guess we should just let sadam go too.
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I work at Loews Cineplex here in Pittsburgh. It's one of those huge new theatres with 22 auditoriums, a restaurant, cafe, vip seating etc. Anyway, Farenheit 911 came out today and man I have never seen such a long line to get into the movie theatre. I didn't work there for Star Wars or Lord of the Rings but this line went all the way down the huge hallway , around the corner and damn near out of the door. It was pretty insane, guys were like in the theatre handing out anti bush fliers and had to be told to stop like 3 times. I didn't even think this movie was gonna be in the theatre because it is so politically charged, but it was there in full force. If this is any indication of how this movie is opening around the country, then Bush is all out of luck. I didn't see it myself but there were sooo many enthusiastically liberal people there, that it really made me feel good about the city I live in and it's inhabitants. Like I said in a different thread, there don't seem to be many republicans who live in the city, I suppose all of them are clustered in their suburban wonderlands. Anyway just wanted to share this, because I think it is really good news if the movie is anything like what I expect it to be. Michael Moore is a genius regardless of if you think he's correct or incorrect in his political standpoint, you've got to admit that he's really nailed it on the head this time. Judging by the number of people there, I'd say he definetely has the potential to sway as many as 5 or 6 percent of the nation to his side, and even if it's only 1 or 2 percent that really makes a HUGE differance in an election this close. I think all kinds of big independent film makers are going to follow suit and start using their films as an extremely powerful tool to reel people into their cause. Bush is really f*cked now though cause I don't think there are any conservatives creative enough to make any sort of documentary or film, halfway worth watching. This reminds me of how Frank Sinatra helped JFK win his election, it must really be something to weild that kind of power with only your creative genius. Writers will never come close to getting the sort of target audience Michael Moore has zero'ed in on here, he's just hit the political jackpot if you ask me.
Are you Insane? This movie will sway some votes to the bleeding heart liberal camp but to think it will Sway enough votes to the democrats to ensure that "bush is all done" is insane.

You are the worst kind of liberal with outlandish clamis such as "I don't think there are any conservatives creative enough to make any sort of documentary or film, halfway worth watching" how would you back this wild claim up with any kind of evidence or line of reasoning??

How do you come up with an idea like your city doesnt have any republicans living in it?? Obsurd.

Its obvious to me that you dont pay attention to any facts or logical thought processes which is no wonder you are a democrat. Anybody that watches that movie and believes it is a "documentary" may want to have their head examined
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sooooooo? are you saying its cool that Iraq is threating us. Thats ok cuz they just do that. I guess we should just let sadam go too.
Who said Iraq is threating us? The 9-11 attackers were not Iraqis and WMD are still not found (not that Iraq will use it on us now even if they did exist) The Bush Administration made it seem that Iraq is the threat so that we can go to war. (guess you and alot of american brought it, at the time I did too)

But back to the topic, Seems like ALOT of movie critics like the movie.

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I cant believe that some people can call themselves americans but cant even support our nations leader in a time of war. Go ahead, talk your **** but you couldnt any better. What do you think we should do?, let Iraq continue to threaten countries until one day they do more damage than 9/11. Be Real.


"let Iraq continue to threaten countries until one day they do more damage than 9/11"?!?!



uhm, you do realize that the majority of the highjackers were Saudi nationals?
right?
furthermore, you understand that there was not a single Iraqi highjacker involved in the events of 9/11?


and please spare us your BS about supporting our nations' leader in time of war...
i'll quote a REAL President regarding criticism of the office.

"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

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I'm gonna see it tonight.
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I know quite a few conservatives who went to see Moore's movie. And believe it or not, they took undecided voters with them to see it. So far, four more votes for Bush in November here in St. Johns County, Florida.
So, I ecourage all non-liberals to go see this movie, and take some of your intelligent friends who haven't yet selected a Presidential candidate. You might be pleased with the results.
Skooly, I'd be interested to hear your opinion of the movie after you see it.
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I'm sure it will provide me with something to foam at the mouth about.

In all seriousness, I don't think I'll agree with EVERY argument he makes in his film, such as the loose business ties between Bush and Bin Laden. But we'll see..........
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i'll quote a REAL President regarding criticism of the office.

"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

Teddy Roosevelt
I read that 20 years ago. It was true to me then and remains true to me now.

Teddy Roosevelt walked softly but carried a big stick. More importantly, he knew when to use that stick and when NOT to use the stick. Bush would have been better served to have studied Teddy's foreign policy. Actually, he would have been better served to have spent as much time in the classroom when he was a kid as he did on the day of the 9/11 attack.
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bush = 169% pWned

"There's an old saying in Tennessee, uhh.. I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee...that says, fool me once, shame on, uhh... shame on you. Fool me, uhh... you can't get fooled again".

and some quotes from theatre go-ers...
"spit it out idiot".
"ughh".

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I read that 20 years ago. It was true to me then and remains true to me now.

Teddy Roosevelt walked softly but carried a big stick. More importantly, he knew when to use that stick and when NOT to use the stick. Bush would have been better served to have studied Teddy's foreign policy. Actually, he would have been better served to have spent as much time in the classroom when he was a kid as he did on the day of the 9/11 attack.
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Woodyear, I will probably never see this movie. I find it distasteful to pay someone for dispensing hate in conjunction with deceipt. I foolishly saw his earlier piece of crap and see no indication that this one is any different.

But that's not why I'm here. I have you on my ignore list and I want to apologize for that. Your first posting on this site really turned me off. My view of you based on your postings was pretty low, down there near whale ****. I chose to turn you off. For what it's worth, you were the first and only on my ignore list.

I've had a little time to think about it and I've concluded it was pretty weak of me to "ignore" you. If I can figure out how to do it, I plan to take you off my ignore list. I'm sure it doesn't matter to you, but just thought I should fess up.
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I've had a little time to think about it and I've concluded it was pretty weak of me to "ignore" you. If I can figure out how to do it, I plan to take you off my ignore list. I'm sure it doesn't matter to you, but just thought I should fess up.
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Thanks, I appreciate it. That's why I hired you.

I would like to think I would have been able to figure that one out, but maybe not.
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'Fahrenheit 9/11' Tops $8M in First Day

LOS ANGELES - "Fahrenheit 9/11," Michael Moore's assault on President Bush, took in $8.2 million to $8.4 million in its first day, positioning it as the weekend's No. 1 film, its distributors said Saturday.

Based on Friday's numbers, "Fahrenheit 9/11" was on track for an opening weekend that would surpass the $21.6 million total gross of Moore's "Bowling for Columbine," his 2002 film that earned him an Academy Award for best documentary.

"Bowling for Columbine" holds the record for highest domestic gross among documentaries, excluding concert films and movies made for huge-screen IMAX theaters.

Friday grosses for "Fahrenheit 9/11" ran about $1.5 million ahead of its closest competitor, the Wayans brothers comedy "White Chicks." The performance of "Fahrenheit 9/11" was even more remarkable considering it played in just 868 theaters, fewer than a third the number for "White Chicks."

"Fahrenheit 9/11" benefited from a flurry of praise and condemnation. Supporters mobilized liberal-minded audiences to see it over opening weekend to counter efforts by some right-wing groups to discredit the film.

"It always helps when there's a group out there that says, 'Don't go see this movie. It's bad for you,'" said Jonathan Sehring, president of IFC Films, one of the film's distributors.

"Fahrenheit 9/11" paints Bush as a neglectful president who ignored terrorism warnings before Sept. 11, then stirred up fear of more attacks to win public support for the Iraq war. The movie won the top honor at the Cannes Film Festival in May.

The film has ridden a wave of publicity since just before Cannes, when Moore began assailing Disney for refusing to let subsidiary Miramax release "Fahrenheit 9/11" because of its political content.

Miramax bosses Harvey and Bob Weinstein bought back the film and hooked up with Lions Gate Films and IFC to distribute it.

The fury over "Fahrenheit 9/11" resembled the firestorm created by Mel Gibson "The Passion of the Christ," which rose to blockbuster status amid debate over whether it was anti-Semitic.

"It's like how 'The Passion of the Christ' redefined what a certain genre of movie could do at the box office, 'Fahrenheit 9/11' is doing the same thing," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office tracker Exhibitor Relations. "This blows away any conceivable record for box office of a documentary.
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There they go again, throwing around that word, "documentary." MM will be out of luck at the Oscars this year. They don't have a category for Best Political Propaganda.
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