GTM: never too late for another SC kit
09-24-2012, 07:04 AM
#121
I hear ya. I just assumed when I saw "Turn Key" kits, especially outfitted with a basic fuel systen...the parts of which usually already exist on any built DE, the intentions were for at least the stage one to be bolted on to a stock DE...with room to grow of course. I do think it is somewhat misleading how they list the HP ratings of the kits but I suppose anyone savvy in the FI game will understand the difference between expected HP and maximum potential HP.
Adding boost with this new kit isn't any different then any other kit on a stock block. The kit is more expensive up front then compared to a vortech (for example) but it is more complete and comes with a few extra things. As for the fueling, anyone with a vortech on stock block that wants it to run well have upgraded their fueling and tune. Here is a small comparison I made a while back for the benefit of the community from what I have learned from research and discussions, https://my350z.com/forum/9645201-post37.html
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09-24-2012, 09:13 AM
#122
Not trying to justify the decision i made to go with this kit but here is my thoughts on this.
Adding boost with this new kit isn't any different then any other kit on a stock block. The kit is more expensive up front then compared to a vortech (for example) but it is more complete and comes with a few extra things. As for the fueling, anyone with a vortech on stock block that wants it to run well have upgraded their fueling and tune. Here is a small comparison I made a while back for the benefit of the community from what I have learned from research and discussions, https://my350z.com/forum/9645201-post37.html
Adding boost with this new kit isn't any different then any other kit on a stock block. The kit is more expensive up front then compared to a vortech (for example) but it is more complete and comes with a few extra things. As for the fueling, anyone with a vortech on stock block that wants it to run well have upgraded their fueling and tune. Here is a small comparison I made a while back for the benefit of the community from what I have learned from research and discussions, https://my350z.com/forum/9645201-post37.html
09-26-2012, 08:11 PM
#123
I'm in complete agreement! Sorry if I came off to the contrary....I was just touching on classy's point for tempering "out of the box" expectations of HP for a stock DE. I would buy this kit in a heartbeat over the Vortech...The blower placement and belt design alone are worth the price of admission. No justification needed.
11-22-2012, 04:27 PM
#129
Delivery date
wow gabe..i remeber speaking with you the very first of the year when both our cars were there....GTM still hasn't finished yet? 1 year to install a blower? ...good luck bro....
11-22-2012, 04:39 PM
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Has to be some kind of mistake, OP u did get ur car back in between some of that time frame right??? U had to have ur car back in ur possession somewhere in between that and then sent it back to them right?
11-30-2012, 03:49 PM
#131
No it is not a mistake. The combination of my car being highly modified prior and the kit being new to the platform introduced a lot of variables that were unforeseen. However I'm keeping my chin up and will hopefully be able to post so good stuff for you guys soon. BTW, i've noticed you are on the-370z, do you have a GTM SC on your G37?
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11-30-2012, 05:04 PM
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OP if you don't get on people's asses things don't get done. I wonder how many assertive customers got GTM to do the work faster on their projects while yours sat there untouched. Squeaky wheel gets the oil.
11-30-2012, 06:31 PM
#133
From the outside looking in, I can see how some people might think it is ridiculous that it is taking this long but for those who have experience in engaging shops to do extensive custom work can feel and understand e pain. It is not as simple as slapping on an out of the box proven kit. Hopefully I don't sound like I am justifying myself, I am being a realist and have no problem admitting mistakes if I committed one. If it turns out that this project fails then I will update this thread accordingly.
12-03-2012, 08:48 AM
#135
Good memory, i'm usually over in Asia a little more than half of the year. It definitely lessens the anxiety but, trust me, it's still very painful knowing that you don't have your baby at home in your garage waiting for you to come home.
12-03-2012, 09:44 AM
#138
Is there some kind of caveat for others interested in this kit as it is already listed on their website as available? I know your car was heavily modified before this install, but is there something specific being done on your car that makes this less of a "bolt on kIt" than the three stages they have listed?
I know you went for the bigger blower but there has to be more to it.
I know you went for the bigger blower but there has to be more to it.
12-03-2012, 10:33 AM
#139
Haha, btw what car did you shift to?
Good to hear. Did you get a chance to install your driveshaft yet?
As far as I'm aware of GTM hasn't tested this on a stock car so if you buy this kit you will undoubtedly gain power but by how much is the caveat. From the way the kit is developed and installed it is a 100% "bolt on kit". So no custom work or special installation will be required to get the kit to fit.
One of the major factor that has impeded the progress rate was that the mockup kit was not fully completed yet when my car went there and my longblock setup was not suited for SCing. So a lot of trial and error has been done to not only obtain a solid kit but also to make sure my engine and the kit works optimally together. Sometimes two independently good things doesn't equate to one great thing.
I don't want to put words in GTM's mouth so I think the best thing to do if you are interested in getting a kit is to contact GTM directly.
Is there some kind of caveat for others interested in this kit as it is already listed on their website as available? I know your car was heavily modified before this install, but is there something specific being done on your car that makes this less of a "bolt on kIt" than the three stages they have listed?
I know you went for the bigger blower but there has to be more to it.
I know you went for the bigger blower but there has to be more to it.
One of the major factor that has impeded the progress rate was that the mockup kit was not fully completed yet when my car went there and my longblock setup was not suited for SCing. So a lot of trial and error has been done to not only obtain a solid kit but also to make sure my engine and the kit works optimally together. Sometimes two independently good things doesn't equate to one great thing.
I don't want to put words in GTM's mouth so I think the best thing to do if you are interested in getting a kit is to contact GTM directly.
12-03-2012, 10:44 AM
#140
Yeah I did realize most of the down time was because they were still doing the original fab work on the kit while your car was apart. I was just curious about it's current state with what appears to be a fully assembled product. It's the price you pay for innovation and being the test mule I suppose. I am anxious to see the results. Your car is sweet. BTW Did you ever install that trophy brake kit? Any Pics?