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Old 05-02-2005, 11:45 AM
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Default APS lists their turbos for 04-05 Z's. Will work on 03?

yeah might be a stupid question, but why don't they list 03-05?
Old 05-02-2005, 11:49 AM
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I'm not sure...maybe they got it a year later than we did? I really don't know as the confirmation was that it will work on 2003 and pre 2004.5's but not 04.5+ 350Z's yet.
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Originally Posted by nis350ztt
I'm not sure...maybe they got it a year later than we did? I really don't know as the confirmation was that it will work on 2003 and pre 2004.5's but not 04.5+ 350Z's yet.
Where did you see or heard that the APS kit doesn't work on 2004.5-2005 models? Please clarify...

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Originally Posted by Madelinot
Where did you see or heard that the APS kit doesn't work on 2004.5-2005 models? Please clarify...

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Currently, they are unsure if it will work with the '05 ECU's...they are testing that this week.
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I heard somewhere that someone put the APS kit on either a 2004.5 or a 2005, but they were having problems with it running right.
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Peter (APS), can you confirm or deny this? What is the truth?

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by thawk408
I heard somewhere that someone put the APS kit on either a 2004.5 or a 2005, but they were having problems with it running right.
Brainstorm Performance has done an install on a 2005 and it is running with no problems. The head tech at APS is going out to California to see it in person.

They themselves got an '05 350Z (287HP engine) and a 2005 Infiniti G35 Coupe with the 300HP motor to do testing to confirm it will work.
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Originally Posted by Madelinot
Peter (APS), can you confirm or deny this? What is the truth?

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Hi Guys, Just a small post to let you know that APS's head tech has arrived in CA to verify both the fitment of the APS single turbo system and tuning data for the 05 model Z car.

If all goes to plan I will be able to confirm that the APS intercooled single turbo system is available for the 03, 04, and the 05 model Z car within the next 48 hours.

In addition Rob (our head tech at APS) will verify the fitment of the APS TT system on the new 05 model G35 with the factory 300 HP engine.

Testing of both products should be completed this week, the tuning data for the computer is critical to both the 05 single turbo system and the G35 TT system so with some luck we will be in a good position by week end.

I will keep you updated with any news as it comes to hand.

Thanks

Peter
This is the exact reason that APS sent it's head tech to CA, to find out that answer.

As of now all of the threads I've read say that there is no FI system that works on the 05 model Z car. APS has been informed by one of our US based APS dealers that the APS TT system does work fine on the 05 car, because of the uncertainty on the 05 model Z car APS's head tuning tech will verify the compability and the operation of the factory ECU with regard to correct interface with the APS computer this week.

I will certainly let you guys know what we find when the development work and testing is completed later on this week.

Thanks

Peter
The tuning for the single turbo system will be on the 05 model with the 287 hp engine and our head tech will also install and tune an APS twin turbo system on the new G35 with the 300 hp engine.

Peter
An 05 model APS twin turbo Z car (287 hp engine) has been verified by Brainstorm Performance, the APS intercooled Twin Turbo system was installed about 6 weeks ago and the engine runs perfectly and power was awesome after the dyno tuning work.

We at APS just want to double verify that the single and twin turbo system is compatible on the 05 model Z car (all cars produced after July 04 are considered to be 05 models) and Rob our head APS tech will also develop tuning maps for the 05 model Z car/single turbo system whilst he's in the US.

Thanks

Peter

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I know all this, but what about the 2004.5 ULEV2 engines?
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Originally Posted by sentry65
yeah might be a stupid question, but why don't they list 03-05?
Just an oversight on our behalf - the web site will be updated right now.

Thanks for bringing this issue to my attention.

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Originally Posted by nis350ztt
I'm not sure...maybe they got it a year later than we did? I really don't know as the confirmation was that it will work on 2003 and pre 2004.5's but not 04.5+ 350Z's yet.
Why do you guys quote a 2004.5 model Z car?

To the best of my knowledge this 2004.5 model does not exist.

From research we have conducted all Z cars produced between approx 7th month 03 to june 04 are 2004 model Z cars.

And all Z cars produced after 7th month 04 are 05 model Z cars, does this make sense to you guys?

The APS twin turbo system is compatible on 03, 04 model Z cars and at this time our head APS tech is in the US to verify fitment and tuning data on the 05 model Z car (all Z cars produced after 7th month 04).

Thanks

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Originally Posted by nis350ztt
Currently, they are unsure if it will work with the '05 ECU's...they are testing that this week.
Correct and I should be able to update you guys on this 05 model APS turbo fitment tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by thawk408
I heard somewhere that someone put the APS kit on either a 2004.5 or a 2005, but they were having problems with it running right.

I will confirm the 05 turbo fitment for you guys tomorrow - so far all looks good.

Peter
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Originally Posted by Madelinot
Peter (APS), can you confirm or deny this? What is the truth?

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I will be able to 100% confirm the 05 model Z car twin turbo and single turbo fitment tomorow.

Peter
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Peter, what about the new 300hp motor? When will this kit be available?
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Originally Posted by thawk408
Peter, what about the new 300hp motor? When will this kit be available?
Our tech is also installing an APS twin turbo system on a 300 hp G35 (05 model G35) so if the engine in the Z car is identical to the G35 (and I assume it will be) then the 300 hp engine will be doable virtually immediately.

I will let you know when I have confirmed information on the compatibility of the APS TT system on the 300 hp engine, most likey this Friday.

Peter
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Originally Posted by APS
Why do you guys quote a 2004.5 model Z car?

To the best of my knowledge this 2004.5 model does not exist.

From research we have conducted all Z cars produced between approx 7th month 03 to june 04 are 2004 model Z cars.

And all Z cars produced after 7th month 04 are 05 model Z cars, does this make sense to you guys?

The APS twin turbo system is compatible on 03, 04 model Z cars and at this time our head APS tech is in the US to verify fitment and tuning data on the 05 model Z car (all Z cars produced after 7th month 04).

Thanks

Peter
Nothing to do with what Nissan released...just something we have marked as "04.5". IIRC...the 2004.5's were when the suspension was updated and supposedly this is when they started using wideband O2 sensors vs. narrowband O2 sensors that were on pre-2004.5's.
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Originally Posted by APS
Why do you guys quote a 2004.5 model Z car?

To the best of my knowledge this 2004.5 model does not exist.
Peter,

There's two ECU versions on the 04's.

Early models = 2004
Later models w/ the new ECU = 2004.5
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Originally Posted by nis350ztt
Nothing to do with what Nissan released...just something we have marked as "04.5".
Gee no wonder some guys get confused with Z car models - there is no such thing as a 2004.5 model Z car, do you agree?

Originally Posted by nis350ztt
and supposedly this is when they started using wideband O2 sensors vs. narrow band O2 sensors that were on pre-2004.5's.
Are you sure about that? I always believed that Z cars produced after 7th month 03 (04 model cars) had wide band O2 sensors and Z cars produced before 7th month 03 (03 model cars) had narrow band sensors.

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Originally Posted by arcada
Peter,

There's two ECU versions on the 04's.

Early models = 2004
Later models w/ the new ECU = 2004.5
I'm not sure that's correct, here's the info I have from Nissan,

1) 04 model cars (cars produced between 7th month 03 to approx 7th month 04) have one computer model.

2) 05 model cars (cars produced after 7th month 04) have a new ECU, different to the 04 model Z car, does this make sense to you guys?

Peter


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