New Pheno Spacer for Intake Manifold...
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New Pheno Spacer for Intake Manifold...
Recently, a friend of mine with a Celica GTS, brought to my attention this website selling pheno spacers for our VQ35's. If you dont know what a pheno spacer is check out the site for more info. I used to have a nice quality pheno spacer on my old car, and it definetely worked keeping the manifold cooler, unfortuantely I never dyno tested it. Anyways just wanted to bring this to everybody's attention, does anybody have this? Will it raise the plenum too much to fit with a stock strut bar? Id be interested in something like this, I have a Crawford plenum, so I dont have to worry about the strut bar, but I dont think it will work with the clearance issues with the hood.
On a side note my friend pointed me to some results he found online on these spacers(on another car), if you want to look at them and make a decision check this out
On a side note my friend pointed me to some results he found online on these spacers(on another car), if you want to look at them and make a decision check this out
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The site lists them as "NextGear Thermoshield Gaskets" so I doubt that they would be thick enough to significantly raise the intake. We'll never know until someone buys them. I doubt that they are going to do much in stop and go traffic to keep the uppper and lower collectors or the lower intake manifold any cooler. Nice find.
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Originally posted by DavesZ#3
It's not a spacer, it's an insulating gasket.
It's not a spacer, it's an insulating gasket.
It basically stops heatsoak in the manifold, although its not reallly considered a "spacer" it does increase the height of the manifold and could be used as a spacer. This is a very good product because it uses a medical grade material that is heat resistant, worked great on my HONDA, id take this material over the other metal any day. And are a lot cheaper too! $60.00
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not to mention it for a fwd vq35de, not the rwd thats in the Z.
not to mention it for a fwd vq35de, not the rwd thats in the Z.
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Originally posted by Wicked4u2c
Yes, and no... Its something I had arleady posted in another thread visit http://www.hondata.com/heatshield.html
It basically stops heatsoak in the manifold, although its not reallly considered a "spacer" it does increase the height of the manifold and could be used as a spacer. This is a very good product because it uses a medical grade material that is heat resistant, worked great on my HONDA, id take this material over the other metal any day. And are a lot cheaper too! $60.00
Yes, and no... Its something I had arleady posted in another thread visit http://www.hondata.com/heatshield.html
It basically stops heatsoak in the manifold, although its not reallly considered a "spacer" it does increase the height of the manifold and could be used as a spacer. This is a very good product because it uses a medical grade material that is heat resistant, worked great on my HONDA, id take this material over the other metal any day. And are a lot cheaper too! $60.00
I'd like to get a hold of some of that material, not just a small gasket sized piece.
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Its a ricer trick. Like selling the honda kids light weight nuts and bolts. Telling them its sapce grade, yadda, yadda, and you can get them in colors.
Your paying a 110 bucks for a gaskest that costs $2 something.
Your paying a 110 bucks for a gaskest that costs $2 something.
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Originally posted by Wicked4u2c
Yes, and no... Its something I had arleady posted in another thread visit http://www.hondata.com/heatshield.html
It basically stops heatsoak in the manifold, although its not reallly considered a "spacer" it does increase the height of the manifold and could be used as a spacer. This is a very good product because it uses a medical grade material that is heat resistant, worked great on my HONDA, id take this material over the other metal any day. And are a lot cheaper too! $60.00
Yes, and no... Its something I had arleady posted in another thread visit http://www.hondata.com/heatshield.html
It basically stops heatsoak in the manifold, although its not reallly considered a "spacer" it does increase the height of the manifold and could be used as a spacer. This is a very good product because it uses a medical grade material that is heat resistant, worked great on my HONDA, id take this material over the other metal any day. And are a lot cheaper too! $60.00
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Playing around last night with thermodynamics after posing the idea to someone else. We came up with a ruff estimate for heating air and how long would be needed to be heated. Give give you an idea it would take 500 BTU's to heat 1/4 of a liter air to a temprature of 200 degrees in half a second. I don't believe there is a N/A motor out there and very few turbo cars that produce this kind of intake manifold temprature. So another words it useless.
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Looks like this insulator is going between the lower plenum and the intake ports to the heads. It is not an upper plenum spacer. I ordered this thing and will install it with a phenolic 3/8" upper plenum spacer/insulator. With the two combined, the temp of the airstream should be significantly cooler/denser. The added volume from the upper plenum spacer should assist flow as well. I will dyno before and after to see if it does any good. Probably take me a few weeks to get done, but I will post results.
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Originally posted by FairladyZ
Its a ricer trick. Like selling the honda kids light weight nuts and bolts. Telling them its sapce grade, yadda, yadda, and you can get them in colors.
Its a ricer trick. Like selling the honda kids light weight nuts and bolts. Telling them its sapce grade, yadda, yadda, and you can get them in colors.
Regardless, I had a set on my Z. I paid $65 for a spacer between the lower plenum and intake manifold and a spacer between the throttle body and upper plenum. The kit also came w/ a throttle body coolant bypass kit, but I didn't install it.
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