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Old 12-03-2008, 08:34 AM   #61
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And I force my boys to work out 2 times a day and make them guzzle protein shakes...all ofcourse while I polish the spike collar for my deadly PIT BULLS
you should be in a cage... not having dogs and children



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Old 12-03-2008, 08:43 AM   #62
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And I force my boys to work out 2 times a day and make them guzzle protein shakes...all ofcourse while I polish the spike collar for my deadly PIT BULLS


Reminds me of this commercial:

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Old 12-03-2008, 08:55 AM   #63
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I always wondered where to find them. Now I know. The idiots living out their "look at my macho dog" fantasies on this thread. If you really loved animals instead of your fantasies of what you think they say about you (you think your dog says "look at me, I'm cool! I own the worlds baddest dog and only I control him!" when what it really says is "look at me! I'm an insecure loser! Come too close and he'll bite the face off your toddler!") you wouldn't pervert animals through breeding like this.

Pathetic. You make me sad for the poor dogs, and angry at and and sorry for you, all at the same time.

Somehow I really can't help but envision all of you as manipulative control freak losers who are compensating for some personal inadequacy through your dogs.

There are a few points here that I agree with.

Anyone breeding a dog should do it through the breed standards.
Although Mateo is a great looking dog, I highly doubt he qualifies for showing.
Now if you are looking for a loving companion, get whatever dog you want. But if your plans include breeding, make sure you are staying with the breeding standards, not just trying to 'engineer' a dog to your liking.
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There are a few points here that I agree with.

Anyone breeding a dog should do it through the breed standards.
Although Mateo is a great looking dog, I highly doubt he qualifies for showing.
Now if you are looking for a loving companion, get whatever dog you want. But if your plans include breeding, make sure you are staying with the breeding standards, not just trying to 'engineer' a dog to your liking.
Uh can you show me where any of this douchebag sanderman's supposed "points" addressed breeding to the standards?
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Old 12-03-2008, 05:15 PM   #66
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Back yard breeding should be illegal imo. If you don't care enough to breed to standard you shouldn't associate your dog with the breed. Your dog is really just a mutt.
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Back yard breeding should be illegal imo. If you don't care enough to breed to standard you shouldn't associate your dog with the breed. Your dog is really just a mutt.
OUCH!!!
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Old 12-03-2008, 07:22 PM   #69
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Back yard breeding should be illegal imo. If you don't care enough to breed to standard you shouldn't associate your dog with the breed. Your dog is really just a mutt.
have you read the hole thread
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I wouldnt even go as far as calling him a mutt... If his background is what he says it is, he could drop lbs. and do shows, that can NEVER happen with a mutt. If you read my original post you'll see what i was talking about in terms of breeding. Any breeder who has done those specific testings and passed, is not a byb.... imho
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:26 PM   #72
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Back yard breeding should be illegal imo. If you don't care enough to breed to standard you shouldn't associate your dog with the breed. Your dog is really just a mutt.
LOL!!!!! You should tell all the people that pay $2500 for my dogs that they are buying mutts it would only be fair that they know they are not getting the real deal.

My dogs are DNA profiled AKC Amstaffs and APBTs that are genetically profiled.

My dogs have some of the most desired pedigrees around today, if you can read pedigrees you see NOTHING BUT - AKC/UKC Champions show dogs along with purple ribbon dogs and Grand Champion dogs.



Pedigree for Soul Vendetta owned by Cornerstone Kennels
Blue Fawn female APBT


















































Sire
XK-9's Iron Fox
Blue Brindle
(littermate to GRCH Iron Bear Booda)
Sire
AKC/UKC CH Tonkawa Gray Fox
Blue Brindle
Sire
AKC CH Tonkawa's Big Tex OFA
Red Fawn White
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AKC CH Tonkawa Chief Red Cloud OFA
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AKC CH McIntyre's White Rock Blu Ms
Blue Brindle/White
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AKC CH Rounders Blueberry Hill CDX, OFA
Blue Brindle White
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AKC CH Tonkawa's Big Tex OFA
Red Fawn White
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AKC CH Rounder's Precious Gem
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Dixielands Saphire Lace of Ferris
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AKC CH Cirkle C's Blue Thunder
Blue
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AKC CH Cirkle C's I'm a Blueberry
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Chelsea Blue
White Blue
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Cypress BH Snooter Joe
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Tiftowns Galant Di
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AKC/UKC GRCH FL Sunshine's Senor Cirus
Blue Brindle
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Blue Brindle
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AKC CH Tonkawa Big Tex OFA
Red Fawn White
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AKC CH Rounders Blueberry Hill CDX, OFA
Blue Brindle White
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AKC/UKC Gaff's Christy Love
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AKC/UKC CH Sierra Lil' Percy Penny Packer
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AKC/UKC GRCH Gaff's CA Zima
Mahogany Brindle
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CH Sunny Skies Sweet Kisses
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Gaff's CA Blue Ice
Blue Brindle
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AKC/UKC Gaff's Bakala the First/Gaff's Bakala
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:32 PM   #73
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This is Matteo's, AKA Mighty MUTT Pedigree. His 3rd sire was a NATIONAL GRAND CHAMPION

BTW, Matteo is the first EVER UKC Purple Ribbon Mutt, YESSSSS, Ive made history....

And as far as backyard breeding, your right the breeding does take place in my back yard, Im guilty

Pedigree for Mighty Matteo of Cornerstone Kennels
Blue Fawn White Male-
















































Sire
XK-9's Cold Blue Steel

Blue Brindle
Sire
Miracola's Goodfella Gino

Blue Brindle White
Sire
AKC/UKC GRCH FL. Sunshine's Senor Cirus

Blue Brindle White
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AKC/UKC CH Tonkawa Gray Fox

Blue Brindle White
Dam
AKC/UKC Gaff's Christy Love

Blue Fawn White
Dam
Miracola's Goodfella's Bella Blue

Blue Brindle White
Sire
CJ's Black Satan Timex

Black White
Dam
CJ's Rhino's Blue Sky

Blue
Dam
A New Dynasty

Blue Brindle White
Sire
AKC/UKC CH Tonkawa Gray Fox

Blue Brindle White
Sire
AKC CH Tonkawa's Big Tex OFA

Red Fawn White
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AKC CH Rounder's Blueberry Hill CD CDX CGC OFA

Blue Brindle White
Dam
'PR' Rogue's Cheyenne DNA-P

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CH 'PR' Devenport's Coolhand Luke

Brown Black
Dam
GRCH Knowlwood's CA Kellsey

Tan White

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XK-9's Moonshine
Black Brindle White

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Maximus of IBK

Blue Brindle White
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GRCH Iron Bear Booda

Blue White
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AKC/UKC CH Tonkawa Gray Fox

Blue Brindle White
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Dixielands Sapphire Lace of Ferris

Blue Brindle White
Dam
GRCH 'PR' Showstars Destiny's Child

Red Fawn
Sire
GRCH 'PR' Gaff's CA Primetime

Blue Fawn White
Dam
CH 'PR' Nevada Be My Valentine

DNA-P

Brindle
Dam
'PR' Angel Eyes of IBK

Fawn White
Sire
CH 'PR' FL Sunshine's Larum Titano

Brindle White
Sire
NGRCH GRCH 'PR' Larum's Hustlin' Hercules

Black Brindle White
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GRCH 'PR' Shadytown's Li'l Miss Kiana

Fawn White
Dam
GRCH Gaff's Calif Great Athena

Fawn White
Sire
GRCH 'PR' Gaff's Calif. Top Gun

Brown Black
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CH Northern CA Gaff's Kiss Me Kate

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I don't really care who the sire or dam were, even geniuses can have retards as children. Sale price does not determine the quality of dog. Hell, people buy Labradoodles for $2500, that doesn't suddenly make the Labradoodle a breed.

Breeding for traits that don't conform to the breed standard harms it. You obviously are breeding for the extreme qualities of your dog and you own both the sire and dam which tells me you're probably going to breed them several times. Soul Vendetta may make you a lot of money, but you're being unethical because you're selling them as a certain breed of dog when the dogs most likely won't conform to the standard at all. If the dog doesn't conform to the standard, it's nothing more than an expensive mutt.
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Damn!!!!
Amstaffs with the best blood lines can be had for about $1000 here in California. Dogs that are bred to exacting standards and will actually win shows.
I just spent a year researching before buying my dog.The MOST expensive one I looked at was $2500, And he was SchIII, scent, detection, and protection trained at the age of 22 months.



Maybe we should set up a business shipping and selling dogs. I could probably get you 20 per month. And at $1500 profit per puppy . . . . . .. . . . . . .
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I don't really care who the sire or dam were, even geniuses can have retards as children. .
Your right, your a prime example of that and Im sure your parents were not even geniuses



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Breeding for traits that don't conform to the breed standard harms it. If the dog doesn't conform to the standard, it's nothing more than an expensive mutt.
If my dogs didnt "conform to the standard" they wouldnt be AKC/UKC Grand Champions, Champions, and Purple Ribbon Dogs, but I would expect you to know that since even geniuses can have retards as children.

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If my dogs didnt "conform to the standard" they wouldnt be AKC/UKC Grand Champions, Champions, and Purple Ribbon Dogs, but I would expect you to know that since even geniuses can have retards as children.

Have a nice day
I know you're proud of your dogs as most dog owners are, but if you haven't shown your dogs, as you said in post #8, your dogs aren't champions and passing them off as champion quality is dishonest. Really all it means is you were smart enough to pick a dog with a good pedigree, congrats. Any reputable breeder will tell you the same thing I'm telling you. If you actually care about the breed, you should not breed these two extreme dogs. If you're in it for the money, you should take up rglbegl's offer.
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Vendetta and Matteo have been bred as of last week, pups should drop very soon !!!!!!!
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Pups will be here in 2 weeks
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