work advice needed

redblazerx · 10-30-2009, 06:06 PM

I have worked for a GM dealer for 11 years. On October 21st we were notified that the dealership was closing on Oct. 30th. I have passed out about 15 resume's and gotten a few calls.
Well today I got a call from the owner of the local dodge dealership and was presented with a job offer at his JD Byrider lot. This owner owns 6 dealerships in SC and is a down to earth guy.
Now the issue was when we discussed the salary. I will be making $9500 less per year if I take this job, but they do have good benefits. I was also told that I would get a review after being there 6 months and then again at 1 year.

Now I am transfering to another store within the auto group that I am in now but the fate of it has not been decided yet and no one knows how long it will last.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

FATPUBUS · 10-30-2009, 06:33 PM

Wow, that's a hard decision to make...given the fact that Dodge is not doing very well either. Who's to say that you wont be in the same situation again in the future?? If it were me, I'd take the transfer and hope for the best, but keep looking for new employment. At least you'll be making the same salary for the time being I guess? Good luck!

redblazerx · 10-30-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FATPUBUS

Wow, that's a hard decision to make...given the fact that Dodge is not doing very well either. Who's to say that you wont be in the same situation again in the future?? If it were me, I'd take the transfer and hope for the best, but keep looking for new employment. At least you'll be making the same salary for the time being I guess? Good luck!

Thats true, but this is a saturn dealership that I am transfering to. I dont know how long it will last with GM axing saturn. There is a chance to transfer to another department if I do take the new job.

FATPUBUS · 10-30-2009, 06:41 PM

Major city or small town? And what does the chance depend on...senoirity, or whoever decides they like you good enough.

redblazerx · 10-30-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FATPUBUS

Major city or small town? And what does the chance depend on...senoirity, or whoever decides they like you good enough.

Its a small town, 50K people. I have done learned that seniority doesnt mean anything these days. I take pride in my work and can do a vary well job.

FATPUBUS · 10-30-2009, 06:52 PM

I'd still take the transfer option rather than go with Dodge JDByrider...But still seek new employment. What's your line of work? Sales, or mechanic etc...?

redblazerx · 10-30-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FATPUBUS

I'd still take the transfer option rather than go with Dodge JDByrider...But still seek new employment. What's your line of work? Sales, or mechanic etc...?

Parts

But when I transfer they are adjusting everyones pay down.

Hraesvelg · 10-30-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by redblazerx

I have worked for a GM dealer for 11 years. On October 21st we were notified that the dealership was closing on Oct. 30th. I have passed out about 15 resume's and gotten a few calls.
Well today I got a call from the owner of the local dodge dealership and was presented with a job offer at his JD Byrider lot. This owner owns 6 dealerships in SC and is a down to earth guy.
Now the issue was when we discussed the salary. I will be making $9500 less per year if I take this job, but they do have good benefits. I was also told that I would get a review after being there 6 months and then again at 1 year.

Now I am transfering to another store within the auto group that I am in now but the fate of it has not been decided yet and no one knows how long it will last.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

SC housing prices are cheap as hell.

I lived in Columbia, SC. If you need help in relocation let me know.

kutnupe14 · 10-30-2009, 07:28 PM

JD Byrider? huh, I thought that was just an Indiana thing (its HQ'd here). FYI, those places stay busy, havent seen one fold yet. Solid used cars with good warranties and support.

CH³NO² · 10-30-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by redblazerx

Thats true, but this is a saturn dealership that I am transfering to. I dont know how long it will last with GM axing saturn. There is a chance to transfer to another department if I do take the new job.

I thought Saturn was already "toes up" when the Penske deal fell apart? I guess they will need to keep servicing the cars on the road tho?

surfcity40 · 10-30-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CH³NO²

I thought Saturn was already "toes up" when the Penske deal fell apart? I guess they will need to keep servicing the cars on the road tho?

ALL of the Saturn dealers near me are already gone. Just space waiting to be re-rented by another failed car company. But yes you are correct. there is no Saturn.

zpak · 10-31-2009, 01:21 AM

1) +1 to what everyone else is saying: Saturn's future is dim at best ("nonexistent", more accurately).

2) "$9500 less per year" is what percentage of the overall pay?

3) Will you have to move? And if so, can/will you be happy in your new location?

JEKL · 10-31-2009, 06:48 AM

Does that auto group have any import dealerships?

350ZTheStandard · 10-31-2009, 05:40 PM

Same as other posterZ, Saturn was $hit canned after Penske snaPPed and 86d the deal.

redblazerx · 10-31-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zpak

1) +1 to what everyone else is saying: Saturn's future is dim at best ("nonexistent", more accurately).

2) "$9500 less per year" is what percentage of the overall pay?

3) Will you have to move? And if so, can/will you be happy in your new location?

$9500 is about a 25% pay cut. I wont have to move but me and the wife can carpool b/c she works about 3 miles from there. I know he has like 6 or 7 dealerships including a Harley Davidson dealer.

The pay cut will hurt for a while but it is with what I think is a stable company. He also told me that all the managers including myself will fly to the JD Byrider HQ in indiana every quarter and to milwaukee every year for meetings. From what I have been told JD Byrider is very loyal to his dealers.

zpak · 10-31-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by redblazerx

$9500 is about a 25% pay cut. I wont have to move but me and the wife can carpool b/c she works about 3 miles from there. I know he has like 6 or 7 dealerships including a Harley Davidson dealer.

The pay cut will hurt for a while but it is with what I think is a stable company. He also told me that all the managers including myself will fly to the JD Byrider HQ in indiana every quarter and to milwaukee every year for meetings. From what I have been told JD Byrider is very loyal to his dealers.

So with all that info, I'd suggest to take the Dodge job (seems you were leaning that way anyway).

Between Dodge and Saturn, we all know that Saturn's days are numbered. Dodge still has an opportunity to turn things around (but they'll have to do so quickly).

A 25% pay cut is pretty significant, but not insurmountable. Some lifestyle changes/choices will definitely have to be made, but on the other hand, you'll get more "bonding type" with your wife.

Like you were saying, I'd trade away a higher income for more economic stability any day.

rlw222 · 10-31-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by redblazerx

$9500 is about a 25% pay cut. I wont have to move but me and the wife can carpool b/c she works about 3 miles from there. I know he has like 6 or 7 dealerships including a Harley Davidson dealer.

The pay cut will hurt for a while but it is with what I think is a stable company. He also told me that all the managers including myself will fly to the JD Byrider HQ in indiana every quarter and to milwaukee every year for meetings. From what I have been told JD Byrider is very loyal to his dealers.

I feel for you. This seems to be the norm now work for less. If I were you I would stay with the group you work for and look for a better paying job. From what you posted you are not making big bucks now and with that big of a cut all I can say is WOW. You will have one heck of a tough time living on 30k a year. After cost of living what would you have to spend on other bills? This is whats going on all over . Only gov workers get a pay increase the rest of us sloths have to forage in the dumpsters . You do not see middle class much anymore either rich or below 40k a year. I wish you the best of luck because it looks like you are going to need some.

redblazerx · 11-01-2009, 05:06 AM

Thanks guys, keep the advice coming. Right now i am at mid 30's for 52.5 hours a week and hardly no lunch.

Im not really worried about the house payment or my wife's car payment, its the credit cards that I am concerned about. I thought that if I take the job that I could call the credit car companies and have them put me on a hardship program for a while. Plus, I have one loan that gets paid by the loan company if I do become unemployeed b/c I took out the extra ins. for that.

I do know that it takes me a few weeks to adjust to a new job where ever I go. I do want to make a good impression and get my foot in the door and really impress the new boss, that is if I do take the job.

zpak · 11-01-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by redblazerx

Thanks guys, keep the advice coming. Right now i am at mid 30's for 52.5 hours a week and hardly no lunch.

Im not really worried about the house payment or my wife's car payment, its the credit cards that I am concerned about. I thought that if I take the job that I could call the credit car companies and have them put me on a hardship program for a while. Plus, I have one loan that gets paid by the loan company if I do become unemployeed b/c I took out the extra ins. for that.

I do know that it takes me a few weeks to adjust to a new job where ever I go. I do want to make a good impression and get my foot in the door and really impress the new boss, that is if I do take the job.

If you don't mind my asking, how much credit card debt do you have, roughly?

redblazerx · 11-01-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by zpak

If you don't mind my asking, how much credit card debt do you have, roughly?

Somewhere around 23K

10-30-2009, 06:06 PM	#1
redblazerx Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: upstate Posts: 33 iTrader: (0)	work advice needed I have worked for a GM dealer for 11 years. On October 21st we were notified that the dealership was closing on Oct. 30th. I have passed out about 15 resume's and gotten a few calls. Well today I got a call from the owner of the local dodge dealership and was presented with a job offer at his JD Byrider lot. This owner owns 6 dealerships in SC and is a down to earth guy. Now the issue was when we discussed the salary. I will be making $9500 less per year if I take this job, but they do have good benefits. I was also told that I would get a review after being there 6 months and then again at 1 year. Now I am transfering to another store within the auto group that I am in now but the fate of it has not been decided yet and no one knows how long it will last. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

10-30-2009, 06:33 PM	#2
FATPUBUS R.I.P. KC 67-94 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Spring, Tx. Posts: 125 iTrader: (6)	Wow, that's a hard decision to make...given the fact that Dodge is not doing very well either. Who's to say that you wont be in the same situation again in the future?? If it were me, I'd take the transfer and hope for the best, but keep looking for new employment. At least you'll be making the same salary for the time being I guess? Good luck! Last edited by FATPUBUS; 10-30-2009 at 06:34 PM.

10-30-2009, 06:41 PM	#4
FATPUBUS R.I.P. KC 67-94 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Spring, Tx. Posts: 125 iTrader: (6)	Major city or small town? And what does the chance depend on...senoirity, or whoever decides they like you good enough. Last edited by FATPUBUS; 10-30-2009 at 06:42 PM.

10-30-2009, 07:28 PM	#9
kutnupe14 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 13,418 iTrader: (0)	JD Byrider? huh, I thought that was just an Indiana thing (its HQ'd here). FYI, those places stay busy, havent seen one fold yet. Solid used cars with good warranties and support. __________________ *Gun Totin' Liberals: Left of Center But Always* on Target**

10-31-2009, 06:48 AM	#13
JEKL Bomaye! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 2,239 iTrader: (20)	Does that auto group have any import dealerships? __________________ ni bheidh mo leitheid aris ann

10-30-2009, 06:52 PM	#6
FATPUBUS R.I.P. KC 67-94 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Spring, Tx. Posts: 125 iTrader: (6)	I'd still take the transfer option rather than go with Dodge JDByrider...But still seek new employment. What's your line of work? Sales, or mechanic etc...?

10-31-2009, 01:21 AM	#12
zpak Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: P.V. to the O.C. Posts: 4,175 iTrader: (0)	1) +1 to what everyone else is saying: Saturn's future is dim at best ("nonexistent", more accurately). 2) "$9500 less per year" is what percentage of the overall pay? 3) Will you have to move? And if so, can/will you be happy in your new location?

10-31-2009, 05:40 PM	#14
350ZTheStandard Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: NEW AMERICA Posts: 7,283 iTrader: (1)	Same as other posterZ, Saturn was $hit canned after Penske snaPPed and 86d the deal. __________________ ZZZ's a lifestyle Team Anti-DNF down with furious clickety clackers

11-01-2009, 05:06 AM	#18
redblazerx Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: upstate Posts: 33 iTrader: (0)	Thanks guys, keep the advice coming. Right now i am at mid 30's for 52.5 hours a week and hardly no lunch. Im not really worried about the house payment or my wife's car payment, its the credit cards that I am concerned about. I thought that if I take the job that I could call the credit car companies and have them put me on a hardship program for a while. Plus, I have one loan that gets paid by the loan company if I do become unemployeed b/c I took out the extra ins. for that. I do know that it takes me a few weeks to adjust to a new job where ever I go. I do want to make a good impression and get my foot in the door and really impress the new boss, that is if I do take the job.

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