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Old 11-03-2011, 02:02 PM   #1
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Default Light bulb blew up.. almost caught the house on fire

Hey guys, wanted to check here before heading down to the attorney firm..

Back in June, I bought some ceilings lights from Home Depot. It's a large chain store that sells construction/home products.. I don't have a receipt anymore. Today, my tenants called and said that one of the ceiling light bulbs blew up. The shards that landed on the carpet left black burnt marks. Some shards fell on the couch near by and the entire couch caught on fire. The white walls and roof have some black smoke color.. good thing my tenants were home and they put it out before the whole house went up..

Question... who should i contact first? the manufacture of light? Home Depot? an attorney? Do manufactures compensate for this type of problem? Light bulbs don't just blow up and catch things on fire.. this should be a manufacture's defect right?

the tenant wants us to fix this.. I am waiting to get off work soon and go there to take some pictures. I told the tenants to leave everything as is.

The ceiling light and the light bulb came together. I did not replace any new light bulbs
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The real question is.... Was it the original light that came with the fixture or did the tenant replace it and maybe used the wrong wattage bulb?
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Hey guys, wanted to check here before heading down to the attorney firm..

Back in June, I bought some ceilings lights from Home Depot. It's a large chain store that sells construction/home products.. I don't have a receipt anymore. Today, my tenants called and said that one of the ceiling light bulbs blew up. The shards that landed on the carpet left black burnt marks. Some shards fell on the couch near by and the entire couch caught on fire. The white walls and roof have some black smoke color.. good thing my tenants were home and they put it out before the whole house went up..

Question... who should i contact first? the manufacture of light? Home Depot? an attorney? Do manufactures compensate for this type of problem? Light bulbs don't just blow up and catch things on fire.. this should be a manufacture's defect right?

the tenant wants us to fix this.. I am waiting to get off work soon and go there to take some pictures. I told the tenants to leave everything as is.

The ceiling light and the light bulb came together. I did not replace any new light bulbs

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml11/11219.html

Check for recall on that bulb.

As for an attorney...........wow. Way to eager to go to litigation are we? Expecting a million dollar payout or something?

Clean the ceiling, replace the couch. It will be less time consuming that trying to take a large company to court.
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The real question is.... Was it the original light that came with the fixture or did the tenant replace it and maybe used the wrong wattage bulb?
I asked the tenant... they confirmed it was the original light bulb that came with the package..
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Clean the ceiling, replace the couch. It will be less time consuming that trying to take a large company to court.
No AAL is going to take this to court. There is no upside. It's at most a small claims action if Home Depot doesn't make the OP whole for his losses, provided it was a product fail.
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Everyone involved will blame the other guy. Your attorney will tell you to fight it, in which case their attorneys will make sure you spend forever in court proving that your house's electrical system is 100%, your tenant's didn't touch a thing, the light fixture was installed perfectly, etc, etc, etc.

Just pay your insurance deductible and write it off on your taxes. You'll spend more on attorney's fees + time lost than you will having your insurance company have a smoke damage mitigation company fix the problem. The renter's insurance should cover loss of their personal property, not yours.

but, if you have free time and tons extra cash on hand, good luck sticking it to those major corporations and their teams of attorney's
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http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml11/11219.html

Check for recall on that bulb.

As for an attorney...........wow. Way to eager to go to litigation are we? Expecting a million dollar payout or something?

Clean the ceiling, replace the couch. It will be less time consuming that trying to take a large company to court.
Im not trying to take the company to court or for any large sum of payments.. if it is their fault, I'd like my walls cleaned, my carpet replaced and a reasonable payment for my burnt couch? if Home Depot / Ceiling light company refuses, then it's lawyer time...

i just dont know where to start on this..
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Id start by "Getting real" and acknowledging that you are going to have a hard time to "win" this.

Read 98bird's post. Only the lawyer will win since he will get paid either win or lose. He will want to take your case.
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Im going to call my insurance first... see what they say..
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I know for most people home depot and lowes are some of the only options for buying household fixtures and electric products. So I'm not saying don't buy anything from there.

I work for an electrical supply house and have also worked for lowes so I have a very good understanding of how things work for these companies.

When a company like lowes or home depot offers to buy a product from a certain vendor. They tell the vendor "I want to spend X, you do what you have to to get me to that number" so for the vendors the only option is either lose out on millions of dollars or make a cheaper quality product to meet requested pricing. I can guarantee you 75% of the product in the lighting and tool section you will not find the exact same product anywhere in the world. You will find many product that look the same but the quality is just not there.

example: Dewalt cordless drills. How is it lowes sells them for less then a Dewalt store? Cheaper motors, gears, plastics etc.

Just something to keep in mind.

Support your local supply house. Not only do they offer knowledge but they offer piece of mind as well.
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I know for most people home depot and lowes are some of the only options for buying household fixtures and electric products. So I'm not saying don't buy anything from there.

I work for an electrical supply house and have also worked for lowes so I have a very good understanding of how things work for these companies.

When a company like lowes or home depot offers to buy a product from a certain vendor. They tell the vendor "I want to spend X, you do what you have to to get me to that number" so for the vendors the only option is either lose out on millions of dollars or make a cheaper quality product to meet requested pricing. I can guarantee you 75% of the product in the lighting and tool section you will not find the exact same product anywhere in the world. You will find many product that look the same but the quality is just not there.

example: Dewalt cordless drills. How is it lowes sells them for less then a Dewalt store? Cheaper motors, gears, plastics etc.

Just something to keep in mind.

Support your local supply house. Not only do they offer knowledge but they offer piece of mind as well.
Thanks for giving me some ideas. I was sitting around thinking about how much I hate Lowes and Home Depot but they always get my money because there is nowhere else.
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couple questions... Is the can light installed in a ceiling with an attic above? if so does it have insulation around it? and if so is it an IC rated housing?

what type of bulb is it? if it is a halogen bulb they cannot be touched when installing them, any fingerprints or oils on the bulb will cause them to burn out or crack, etc like yours did.

there are way to many variables involved with stuff like this so its a very far stretch to try and hold home depot liable. if anything the bulb manufacturer is most likely to blame i think.
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home depot isn't responsible for this unless the light bulb was manufactured by them
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after thinking about it more, I dont think home depot sells any remodel IC rated housings.. so if there was any insulation around the can light i think it comes down to installation error...

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Tell me more about this strange, magical sounding place.
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Pics of glass shards & burnt furniture/carpet?
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I was thinking the same thing.




Let me let you on this big secret nobody knows about this place that makes great coffee and latte's. They are a chain store and are really easy to find and sell millions of cups a day. It is a little expensive, but it stacks up fairly well to the mom and pop shops. It's called Starbucks. Shhhh don't tell anyone.



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I would sue the dumb *** that installed it (the light fixture that is).
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As for an attorney...........wow. Way to eager to go to litigation are we? Expecting a million dollar payout or something?

Clean the ceiling, replace the couch. It will be less time consuming that trying to take a large company to court.
+1 on all of the above.

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Im going to call my insurance first... see what they say..
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