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Old 09-13-2009, 01:07 PM   #1
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Default Which Engine Mgmt for NA, and future FI?

Currently my car is NA, and it is running lean from simple bolt on modifications. I want to get an aftermarket engine management system so my car can be tuned for a bit more power. Most importantly though, I want to make sure and pick one that is good/usable for my future goals of going turbo. I don't plan on doing the tuning myself, I'll probably have to find a shop (Z Car Garage or someone) to do it for me. Which engine management systems would be most suitable for what I'm looking for?
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Old 09-13-2009, 01:11 PM   #2
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that is the most vague request ive ever heard of so:

Haltech
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pick one.
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Old 09-13-2009, 04:26 PM   #3
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Get the tubo first. Everything else is an accessory.
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Old 09-13-2009, 04:29 PM   #4
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If you have money haltech. But if not, i will go with uprev for sure.
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that is the most vague request ive ever heard of so:

Haltech
Uprev
Cobb
Utech


pick one.
Uh.. thanks, I am guessing Haltech is the best since it is a stand-alone ECU? I guess I really want something that is most useful for FI engine management in the future when I do go turbo, but in the mean time will tune out the current leanness of my NA motor with it's mere bolt-ons.

Can't go turbo yet, still waiting on my active duty orders... soon as Uncle Sam gives me my O-1e pay I can buy lots and lots of toyz.
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how do you know you are going lean? have you logged some pulls? do you even have a wideband? What are you considering lean? A NA car should be in the low 13s at WOT near redline with stock timing.

simple mods will not lean out the car. the stock ecu can control a very wide range of AFRs

The UTEC with a good tuner would be sufficient
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how do you know you are going lean? have you logged some pulls? do you even have a wideband? What are you considering lean? A NA car should be in the low 13s at WOT near redline with stock timing.

simple mods will not lean out the car. the stock ecu can control a very wide range of AFRs

The UTEC with a good tuner would be sufficient
Did some pulls on my local shops dyno with a baseline dyno, and after some common bolt ons... bassani exhaust, motordyne 5/16 spacer, JWT intake the car lost hp/tq all throughout the entire powerband although it did gain peak power. They didn't hook up the wideband o2 sensor though so I'm not entirely sure, but the loss of low-mid range power makes me think this is what's happening. Either way I could benefit from a tune though I'm sure.
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leaner makes more power, esp on a car that was tuned rich from the factory. a poor mixture of bolt-ons loses power.

either way, Up-rev reflash is the best for a NA car. UTEC is an ok compromise between NA and FI.
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there is no "best" - the ideal choice for you, is whatever your intended tuner is most comfortable tuning with, coupled with what unit affords you the features you want.
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Adam you said it perfect.
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leaner makes more power, esp on a car that was tuned rich from the factory. a poor mixture of bolt-ons loses power.

either way, Up-rev reflash is the best for a NA car. UTEC is an ok compromise between NA and FI.



I dont think he has a poor mixture of bolt-ons, though.
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