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Old 08-23-2016, 03:59 PM
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Default Getting 300hp out of my stock HR

What's up guys,

Been reading up on here about getting around 300hp out of my HR with bolt on's.

I read PPE headers, exhaust, CAI, tune etc would do it. I wanted to see if I could accomplish around 300hp with the following:

- Art Pipes w/stock exhaust or maybe some headers with the Art pipes?
- CAI
- Uprev tune

Now with the ART pipes, would the tune possibly fix the yearly smog check issue or would I have to swap out my ART's with the stock cats for the smog?
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it depends on dyno and tuner, but i doubt it

mine had intakes, art, tdx2, and tune which got me 286 on a mustang dyno
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Originally Posted by travlee
it depends on dyno and tuner, but i doubt it

mine had intakes, art, tdx2, and tune which got me 286 on a mustang dyno
Good to know, how bout the smog question ?
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i know in texas as long as you didnt have a check engine light you are good. the tuner put the downstream sensors in a state, think it was not ready or something. here you can have 2 not ready (or whatever it was) sensors

do y'all have a visual inspection, tailpipe rape, or just obd2?
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terrasmak would be a good source of info for ya, think he lives out there in that area
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No cats not going to pass unless they dont look and just use your obd2 info and the 02 extender works to keep your code off... Soooo if you need to pass a yearly inspection you might wanna keep some cats.
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^^Agreed. Depending on the dyno and how it's operated, OP may or may not see 300 hp. My HR powered race Z has test pipes, single outlet muffler and was UpRev tuned on 100 octane race fuel over 40 pulls. It still "only" made 290 hp. And yes, the ART pipes would need to be replaced with cats to pass emissions (depending on whether Nevada standards are anything close to Colorado).
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Originally Posted by dboyzalter
No cats not going to pass unless they dont look and just use your obd2 info and the 02 extender works to keep your code off... Soooo if you need to pass a yearly inspection you might wanna keep some cats.
with a tune he wouldn't need the extenders. his only concerns would be visual or sniffer test
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Our inspection here if your 02 sensors are not ready or whatever the hell you will automatically fail and you car could get flagged for a super special inspection... Massachusetts is not modified car friendly. Actually last time I asked the guy said 1 not ready and you might pass still if the technician wants to be nice.
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Great info guys, thanks.

So in Nevada they just do the OBD2 check. No visual nothing
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Made 292 WHP


Moral of the story is round up
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But crank hp thats the number everyone loves.
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Originally Posted by dboyzalter
But crank hp thats the number everyone loves.
That's the mistake a lot of Z owners make, "Oh I have 300hp stock"....then a stock GTI takes u out. An your like what the hell.
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Originally Posted by HRMoneyPit
Made 292 WHP


Moral of the story is round up
That's what I'm looking for, what's your setup?
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290 - TDX2 - Art Pipe - Stillen CAI - Tune
315-320 - TDX2 - PPE headers - E85 - GTR Injector - Ported upper and lower manifold - 3" CAI - Tune
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Originally Posted by John_B
290 - TDX2 - Art Pipe - Stillen CAI - Tune
315-320 - TDX2 - PPE headers - E85 - GTR Injector - Ported upper and lower manifold - 3" CAI - Tune
Great info, thank you

I have a set of DeatschWerks 600 injectors from my old SC build. Ill probably throw those in as well along with the CAI , ART pipes, TDX2, tune.

See what kind of WHP I can pull off with my HR.

Thanks again
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my bet is going to be..... 294
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Originally Posted by NeoGixxer
Great info, thank you

I have a set of DeatschWerks 600 injectors from my old SC build. Ill probably throw those in as well along with the CAI , ART pipes, TDX2, tune.

See what kind of WHP I can pull off with my HR.

Thanks again
No Problem. Tune and dyno on a DynoJet. Elevation will also affect the results, just an FYI.
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Every HR I have seen with berk HFCs and a dual exhaust always pulls 295-300. (80-90deg in FL)
I've never seen a intake/exhaust bolt on car with test pipes hit 300.(Just a CAI not porting or 3")

I wish I had money to test it my self, but something tells me these engines hate test pipes, and really hate 2.25"->2.5" step ups in the cat area (90% of all test pipes). There is far to much consensus about mods. Everything needs to be set up to work with each other.

LTH are a great example of this. Are they better than stock cats? You bet. But I never see them make more power then Berk HFCs. EVERY high power NA Z I have seen (Sashas 400+HP car included) Have a mid length header. The ones that Motordyne had up at Zdays were like this as well. Motordynes ART pipes are also properly sized for stock headers, just like the Berks.

Flow doesn't matter if you hemorage velocity. Bigger isn't always better.

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Originally Posted by NiLL
Every HR I have seen with berk HFCs and a dual exhaust always pulls 295-300. (80-90deg in FL)
I've never seen a intake/exhaust bolt on car with test pipes hit 300.(Just a CAI not porting or 3")

I wish I had money to test it my self, but something tells me these engines hate test pipes, and really hate 2.25"->2.5" step ups in the cat area (90% of all test pipes). There is far to much consensus about mods. Everything needs to be set up to work with each other.

LTH are a great example of this. Are they better than stock cats? You bet. But I never see them make more power then Berk HFCs. EVERY high power NA Z I have seen (Sashas 400+HP car included) Have a mid length header. The ones that Motordyne had up at Zdays were like this as well. Motordynes ART pipes are also properly sized for stock headers, just like the Berks.

Flow doesn't matter if you hemorage velocity. Bigger isn't always better.
There's so many opinions on BERks HFC vs ART Pipes...as far as gains, rasps sounds, etc. What's the life span on a BERK HFC cause a lot people are selling used ones for cheap. Also would u come across smog issues with a BERks HFC compared to ART pipes


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