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Old 11-07-2008, 09:07 AM   #61
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the more i look at it im not sure thats a different lip in that first pic. im not sure what that is showing
I think the first pic shows a piece of plastic that sticks to the top of the air dam and the second pic is the lip.


I think the nismo body kit is kind of freaky looking. Hopefully the other companies bring out more simple designs.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:53 AM   #62
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This is all starting to make more sense now. When I saw the increase in weight over the years for the Z33 I was quite surprised. 150+ lbs is alot and for the 07+ to gain that much from +03 using the same chassis I found weird. Especially since the base didn't really gain that much in features so I had no idea where that weight came from. The HR couldn't have been that much heavier since it even has a composite intake manifold now.

But from a marketing stand point it makes perfect sense. Slightly increase weight to cover the weight of the 370Z to make it look like a weight loss and since the HR got a bump in HP so people won't mind.
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Old 11-07-2008, 04:23 PM   #63
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Celldude: Exactly. In reality, the 370Z won't be much/if at all lighter than the 350Z. But it sure as hell will be faster. =P
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Old 11-07-2008, 05:20 PM   #64
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I guess Ill be the first and maybe only one to say this...That body kit is nasty...Do not want......




I lol'd at that big-a$$ front lip...

I do think the back looks sick!

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Old 11-07-2008, 05:24 PM   #65
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I lol'd at that big-a$$ front lip...
That front lip is a multi-use lip. It'll clean snow if you're driving through snow in the winter.





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Old 11-07-2008, 05:32 PM   #66
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I doubt that will happen. In 38 years, the Z car has never had more or less than 6 cylinders.
Yeah, and no one thought the M3 would come with anything other than an in-line 6.

Now we have 414bhp V8 ;-)

I think a 400 hp V8 is not out of the question... I hope it's not japan only. But then the car would need AWD to get any traction..
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Old 11-07-2008, 05:36 PM   #67
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When the specs come out, let's keep an eye on gearing. I think that will be key to any serious improvements in acceleration time - IMO
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Old 11-07-2008, 06:26 PM   #68
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Yeah, and no one thought the M3 would come with anything other than an in-line 6.

Now we have 414bhp V8 ;-)

I think a 400 hp V8 is not out of the question... I hope it's not japan only. But then the car would need AWD to get any traction..
You don't need AWD to get traction from a 400bhp car.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:33 PM   #69
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Yeah, and no one thought the M3 would come with anything other than an in-line 6.

Now we have 414bhp V8 ;-)
You make an excellent point. I guess I'm just hoping they don't, because I probably couldn't afford one with a V8.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:53 PM   #70
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I'm gonna' have to butt in and say that my theory was correct the whole time. The weights between the 03-05, 06, and 07-08 Zs haven't changed much. I've mentioned this many times before, but my 06 Touring weighed 3250 stock with all fluids full. Gooey's 07 Enthusiast weighed about 30lbs less than mine. I recall 03-06 base Zs weighing under 3200lbs, so if these numbers are accurate, the 370Z has actually gained weight.

My theory is that Nissan intentionally BSes their weight numbers for the 350Z so that when it comes time to announce the 370Z officially, they can say that the car's shed weight over the 350Z, which was a bloated figure to begin with. We shall see...
I don't get your theory when they lopped off a chunk of the chassis. What would make the 370Z not weigh less? People are saying the engine is bigger but how is it larger or heavier? They just changed the bore and stroke of the vq35hr in the 350Z engine.

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I don't get your theory when they lopped off a chunk of the chassis. What would make the 370Z not weigh less? People are saying the engine is bigger but how is it larger or heavier? They just changed the bore and stroke of the vq35hr in the 350Z engine.
Excellent point. The engine could not weight THAT much more, the upgraded interior could not weight THAT much more.... Also the doors and hatch are made of the new composite that makes them lighter than the Z33.

I am still a bit dumbfounded by the weight..... We will see.
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I don't get your theory when they lopped off a chunk of the chassis. What would make the 370Z not weigh less? People are saying the engine is bigger but how is it larger or heavier? They just changed the bore and stroke of the vq35hr in the 350Z engine.
First, you seem to be missing the official weight numbers for the 370Z posted in the brochure. My theory makes sense because we've now discovered that the 370 doesn't weigh less than the 350Z. And as for how could it not weigh less? Take a look at that interior, quality of materials definitely looks better than our current cars now - much of it seems ripped right out of the Maxima and G35. Furthermore, a 4 inch cut from the chassis doesn't guarantee a weight loss. We don't know what kind of suspension components Nissan is using for the 370Z, which often add a lot of weight, in addition to a whole bunch of other, specifically the sound deadening.

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First, you seem to be missing the official weight numbers for the 370Z posted in the brochure. My theory makes sense because we've now discovered that the 370 doesn't weigh less than the 350Z. And as for how could it not weigh less? Take a look at that interior, quality of materials definitely looks better than our current cars now - much of it seems ripped right out of the Maxima and G35. Furthermore, a 4 inch cut from the chassis doesn't guarantee a weight loss. We don't know what kind of suspension components Nissan is using for the 370Z, which often add a lot of weight, in addition to a whole bunch of other, specifically the sound deadening.
Actually, I think the new transmission is going to add some weight. Just guessing. But we will see when the U.S. specs come out. I see people are referring to the chart. Where is it?

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Actually, I think the new transmission is going to add some weight. Just guessing. But we will see when the U.S. specs come out. I see people are referring to the chart. Where is it?
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First, you seem to be missing the official weight numbers for the 370Z posted in the brochure. My theory makes sense because we've now discovered that the 370 doesn't weigh less than the 350Z. And as for how could it not weigh less? Take a look at that interior, quality of materials definitely looks better than our current cars now - much of it seems ripped right out of the Maxima and G35. Furthermore, a 4 inch cut from the chassis doesn't guarantee a weight loss. We don't know what kind of suspension components Nissan is using for the 370Z, which often add a lot of weight, in addition to a whole bunch of other, specifically the sound deadening.

Still a good improvement over the current base when you consider the additional power.

Power to weight, assuming the 370Z will have approximately 335hp and the 350Z 306hp.

350Z: 306 hp/3,339 lbs = .0916
370Z: 335 hp/3,256 lbs = .1029
Porsche Cayman S (manual, auto weighs more): 295 hp /2976 lbs = .0999

Or you could look at it by the amount of weight per horsepower.

350Z: 10.911
370Z: 9.719
Cayman S: 10.088

Here is a list of most power to weight ratios.

http://www.aspecpro.com/browse.php?car=Porsche
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Yeah, and no one thought the M3 would come with anything other than an in-line 6.

Now we have 414bhp V8 ;-)

I think a 400 hp V8 is not out of the question... I hope it's not japan only. But then the car would need AWD to get any traction..
The difference being that while the M3 is most known for having an I6, it started out with a 4 cylinder. The Z has NEVER had anything other 6 cylinders.

I'm not saying that Nissan won't change that formula in the future, I'm just saying your example is flawed.
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First, you seem to be missing the official weight numbers for the 370Z posted in the brochure. My theory makes sense because we've now discovered that the 370 doesn't weigh less than the 350Z. And as for how could it not weigh less? Take a look at that interior, quality of materials definitely looks better than our current cars now - much of it seems ripped right out of the Maxima and G35. Furthermore, a 4 inch cut from the chassis doesn't guarantee a weight loss. We don't know what kind of suspension components Nissan is using for the 370Z, which often add a lot of weight, in addition to a whole bunch of other, specifically the sound deadening.

I think your missing the point. On Nissans site the LIGHTEST model 2008 350Z comes in at an official 3320lbs, thats a base and manual tranny car. If Nissan lists the 2009 370Z at 3260lbs for the base model then the car IS lighter. Its not accurate to compare the 2009 370Z to a 2003 350Z because they are not consecutive model years. The 2008 350Z is a better performing car with a number of updates over the 2003 350Z, the 370Z is going to be lighter,more powerful, and updated car over the 2008 350Z. So yes the new Z is lighter and more powerful then the outgoing model.
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Still a good improvement over the current base when you consider the additional power.

Power to weight, assuming the 370Z will have approximately 335hp and the 350Z 306hp.

350Z: 306 hp/3,339 lbs = .0916
370Z: 335 hp/3,256 lbs = .1029
Porsche Cayman S (manual, auto weighs more): 295 hp /2976 lbs = .0999

Or you could look at it by the amount of weight per horsepower.

350Z: 10.911
370Z: 9.719
Cayman S: 10.088

Here is a list of most power to weight ratios.

http://www.aspecpro.com/browse.php?car=Porsche
You're not understanding what I'm saying. How could the current base weigh 3300+lbs when a stock Enthusiast 07 was weighed by a forum member at less than 3250lbs? Again, my 06 Touring weighed in at almost exactly 3250lb stock (full tank), and after all of my mods now weighs less than 3200lbs. Base model 06s, 07s, and 08s still weigh close 3200lbs despite what Nissan says. Us numerous owners who have weighed the cars independently have proven this.

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I think your missing the point. On Nissans site the LIGHTEST model 2008 350Z comes in at an official 3320lbs, thats a base and manual tranny car. If Nissan lists the 2009 370Z at 3260lbs for the base model then the car IS lighter. Its not accurate to compare the 2009 370Z to a 2003 350Z because they are not consecutive model years. The 2008 350Z is a better performing car with a number of updates over the 2003 350Z, the 370Z is going to be lighter,more powerful, and updated car over the 2008 350Z. So yes the new Z is lighter and more powerful then the outgoing model.
Read the post above. I'm not comparing only 2003s. This holds applicable to 2006+, as well. The weights have not changed between the 03-05, 06, and 07-08s as much as people think. The only truly heavy Z out there is the 07+ Nismo Z, which DOES weigh in at 3330lbs and is also made evident by its lower trap-speeds, but that's due to a variety of new suspension components and body pieces added to the car that have given it an extra 100lbs.

Edit: Take it from someone who is in the marketing world...this seems to be Nissan's angle. They haven't dropped much, if any weight off the car. They saturated numbers for the later 350Zs, and will be using that to their advantage with the 370Z.

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