helldorado

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Oh, and the 2JZ-GE, the one used in the Supra and SC300. That was used in about 7 or 8 different cars by Toyota, including the Lexus IS300 and GS300. Who cares that the base engine was used in multiple cars?

Dr. Venture

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haha...same engine sitting sideways for FWD is the same engine man.

VQ35DE
The VQ35DE engine installed in a 2007 Nissan Maxima
Cylinder head of VQ35DE

The 3.5 L (3498 cc) VQ35DE is used in many modern Nissan vehicles. Bore and stroke are 95.5 mm and 81.4 mm. It uses a similar block design to the VQ30DE, but adds variable valve timing. It produces 231 PS (228 hp/170 kW) to 302 PS (298 hp/222 kW) of power and 246 to 268 ft·lbf (334 to 363 N·m) of torque.

The VQ35DE is built in Iwaki and Decherd, TN. It was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list from 2002 through to 2007. It features forged steel connecting rods, a microfinished one-piece cast camshaft, and Nissan's nylon intake manifold technology. It has low-friction molybdenum-coated pistons and the intake is a high-flow tuned induction system.

A modified version of the VQ35DE, called the S1, is produced by Nismo (Nissan's motorsports and performance division) for the Fairlady Z S-Tune GT. It produces 300 PS (296 hp/221 kW) at 7,200 RPM, a higher rev-limit than that of the original VQ35DE. The 350Z GT-S concept has a VQ35DE equipped with a switchable Novidem supercharger, producing around 382 PS (377 hp/281 kW) with the supercharger switched on. The engine may possibly be referred to as the VQ35DER if the GT-S goes into production.

It is fitted to the following vehicles: North American

* 2001–2004 Nissan Pathfinder (240 hp)
* 2001–2004 Infiniti QX4 (240 hp)
* 2002–2004 Infiniti I35 (255 hp)
* 2002–present Nissan Altima (240 to 270 hp)
* 2002–present Nissan Maxima (255 to 290 hp)
* 2003–2006 Nissan 350Z (287 to 296 hp)
* 2003–2006 Infiniti G35 sedan (260 to 298 hp)
* 2003–2007 Infiniti G35 coupe (280 to 298 hp)
* 2003–present Infiniti FX35 (275 to 303 hp)
* 2008–present Infiniti EX35 (297 hp)
* 2003–present Nissan Murano (Z50) (245 to 265 hp)
* 2004–present Nissan Quest (240 hp)
* 2006–present Infiniti M35 (275 hp)

JDM and other markets

* 2000–present Nissan Elgrand 240 PS (237 hp/177 kW)
* 2001–present Nissan Stagea 272 PS (268 hp/200 kW) and above
* 2001–present Renault Vel Satis 241 PS (238 hp/177 kW)
* 2002–present Nissan Skyline (V35) 272 PS (268 hp/200 kW) and above
* 2003–present Nissan Teana/Cefiro (350JM-J31) 231 PS (228 hp/170 kW)
* 2003–present Nissan Presage
* 2003–present Renault Espace 241 PS (238 hp/177 kW)
* 2004–present Nissan Fuga 280 PS (276 hp/206 kW)
* 2005–present Nismo Fairlady Z S-Tune GT 300 PS (296 hp/221 kW) (VQ35DE S1 engine)
* 2006–present Renault Samsung Motors SM7 217 PS (214 hp/160 kW) (Neo VQ35)
* 2008–present Renault Laguna Coupé 241 PS (238 hp/177 kW)


manifold is different, exhaust and motor mounting and starter location is different. Hence creating a different cast of the block for the mounting locations for the sideways sit. That is about it besides changing the cams for the 35 ans edition.

Dr. Venture

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http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...ar/?car=131923

http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...ar/?car=108020

if you like to research then there u go.



And Bruddahmatt i was only referring to the DE.

Zyclone Z

iTrader: (1)

I Heard they were going to make a 4.5 two years from now... Just what I heard don't hold me aganist it ...

bruddahmatt

Which makes absolutely no sense. If this was 2004 and you were complaining about the Z sharing its engine with the Maxima, you'd have a legitimate arguement. But it's 2009 and the HR replaced the DE in the Z in '07.

No RWD Nissan/Infiniti Passenger cars use the DE anymore, hence my point that your complaining about the Z sharing its powerplant with "lesser Nissans" is a moot one. All of the Nissan passenger cars that sit under the Z are FWD and all of the V6 powered vehicles use a transversely mounted DE. All RWD Nissans and Infinitis as of 2009 now use some form of the HR (either the 3.5L VQ35HR or the 3.7L VQ37VHR) making the Z's engine exclusive to the car when placed alongside the rest of Nissan's passenger car lineup.

Read: THE Z DOESN'T SHARE IT'S ENGINE WITH OTHER NISSAN PASSENGER CARS. DE an HR is NOT. All these two motors share in common is their basic architecture and bore spacing. The internals, intake layout, valvetrain and not to mention VVEL on the 3.7 all differentiate these motors from one another. Hence the difference in compression ratio duh. Even the dipstick on the HR is in a different spot than it is on the DE and is further evidence that Nissan isn't planning on putting the HR into a FWD vehicle anytime soon.

Dr. Venture

iTrader: (19)

I along with many 03-05 owners have the DE which shares its engine. This is the model that i was referring to about sharing. Not the HR. But even the HR shares.

Some info for you.

VQ35HR
VQ35HR

Nissan updated the VQ line for 2007 with the addition of the 3.5 L VQ35HR (for "High Revolution" or "High Response"). It produces 315 PS (311 hp/232 kW) at 6,800 RPM and 36.5 kg·m (358 N·m/264 ft·lbf) at 4,800 RPM, using a compression ratio of 10.6:1. It has NDIS (Nissan Direct Ignition System) and CVTC with hydraulic actuation on the intake cam and electromagnetic on the exhaust cam. Redline is 7,500 RPM. The intake is a high-flow tuned induction system.

It is fitted to the following vehicles:

* 2007–present Infiniti G35 sedan
* 2007–present Nissan Skyline V36 350GT Sedan
* 2007–present Nissan 350Z
* 2008–present Infiniti EX Crossover SUV
* 2009–present Infiniti FX Crossover SUV
* 2009–present Infiniti M35

[edit] VQ37VHR
VQ37VHR

The VQ37VHR is a 3.7 L (3696 cc) engine with an increased compression ratio of 11.0:1, with a 95.5 mm bore and 86 mm stroke, while redline remains at 7500 rpm. It is rated at 333 PS (328 hp/245 kW) at 7,000 rpm and 37 kg·m (363 N·m/268 ft·lbf) at 5,200 rpm. Although the engine gains only 0.5 kg·m (5 N·m/4 ft·lbf) over the VQ35HR in peak torque, the torque curve itself is improved and flattened for better response. It marks the first use of Nissan's VVEL (Variable Valve Event and Lift) system on a production vehicle.

It is fitted to the following vehicles:

* 2008–present Infiniti G37
* 2008–present Nissan Skyline V36 370GT Coupe
* 2009–present Infiniti FX37
* 2009–present Infiniti EX37
* 2009 Nissan 370Z
* 2009 Nissan Fairlady Z (Z34)

newtkindred

Are you kidding? The only difference between Nissan and the other manufactures is that Nissan advertises that they use the same engine among their models.

The vast majority of auto manufacturers swap engines across platforms and even across manufactures. Let me asks you this, who cares if they do? It would be dumb to do otherwise. They are in business to make money. Everyone does it, even Porsche, Ferrari, down to Hyundai.

In your examples of manufactures using engines exclusively you site the use of the Honda F-series, Mitsubishi 4G series and finally the Subaru EJ engines. Not only are these engines used in many of the cars from their own car manufacturer but used in other products for other car brands as well. The complete list is too long to show here. But this short list might clear things up for you.

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Honda

# F-series

* 1988 2.0 L F20 (Accord) VTEC
* 1990-1996 2.2 L F22 (Accord/Prelude/CL/Odyssey/Isusu Oasis/Isuzu Aska) VTEC & Non-VTEC
* 1998 2.3 L F23 (Accord/CL/Odyssey/Isuzu Oasis) ) VTEC

# F20C

* 2000 2.0 L F20C (S2000) VTEC

# F22C

* 2004-06 2.2 L F22C (S2000) VTEC



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Mitsubishi

"Its turbocharged variant, 4G63T (also sometimes referred to simply as the 4G63), has powered Mitsubishi vehicles in World Rally Championships for years in the Mitsubishi Galant VR-4, Lancer Evolution, Carisma GT and Lancer WRC04. It was the powerplant of the Lancer Evolution when Tommi Mäkinen won his four sequential WRC championships in his lancer"

Applications

* 1984–1987 Dodge Colt Vista
* 1988 Mitsubishi Cordia
* 1988 Mitsubishi Tredia
* 1988–1992 Dodge Colt Vista
* 1989–1992 Mitsubishi Galant
* 1989–1992 US-spec Mitsubishi Galant
* 1990–1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse
* 1990–1998 Eagle Talon
* 1990–1994 Plymouth Laser
* 1982–1990 Mitsubishi Starion (Australia)
* 1992–1998 Hyundai Sonata
* 1993-1998 Mitsubishi Montero
* 1994–1998 Mitsubishi RVR X3 Turbo
* 1994-1998 Mitsubishi Delica 2WD version (Japan)
* 1992-2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
* 2001-2006 Mitsubishi Airtrek Turbo
* 2001-2006 Mitsubishi Outlander Turbo
* 2004-present Brilliance BS6

The longitudinal 4G64 is the second largest variant, at (2350 cc). Early models were 8-valve SOHC, but a later 16-valve SOHC and DOHC version was also produced. All used MPFI with an 86.5 mm bore and 100 mm stroke. The 4G64 was also available with gasoline direct injection. The version used in the Chrysler Sebring/Stratus coupes produced 152 hp (110 kW) at 5500 rpm with 162 ft·lbf (214 N·m) of torque at 4000 rpm. The Chrysler version features fracture-split forged powder metal connecting rods. The 4g64 is an interference motor like the 4g63.

Applications:

* 1987–1990 Mitsubishi Sapporo
* 1988–1990 Mitsubishi Van
* 1990–1992 Mitsubishi L200
* 1990–1992 Dodge Ram 50
* 1989–1991 Hyundai Sonata
* 1990–1996 Mitsubishi Mighty Max
* 1996–1998 Mitsubishi Magna
* 1994–2003 Mitsubishi Galant
* 1994–2006 Mitsubishi Spacegear (2WD Version)
* 1996–1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder GS
* 2000–2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS & GS
* 2001–2005 Chrysler Sebring coupe/Dodge Stratus coupe
* 2003 Mitsubishi Outlander
* 2004-present Brilliance BS6
* 2005 Mitsubishi Zinger

The 16-valve DOHC 4G67 displaced 1836 cc. Bore x Stroke [mm]: 81.5 x 88

Applications:

* Mitsubishi Mirage
* Mitsubishi Galant
* Mitsubishi Lancer
* Hyundai Elantra

he 4G69 is a 2378 cc version built in Shiga, Japan. Bore is 87 mm and stroke is 100 mm. Output is 162 hp (119 kW) at 5750 rpm (160 in the Sportback Wagon) with 162 ft·lbf (219 N·m) of torque at 4000 rpm. It has a cast iron engine block and aluminum SOHC cylinder heads. It uses multi-point fuel injection, has 4 valves per cylinder with roller followers and features forged steel connecting rods, a one-piece cast camshaft, and a cast aluminum intake manifold. The 4G69 incorporates Mitsubishi's MIVEC Variable Valve Timing technology. Applications:

* 2003–present Mitsubishi Grandis
* 2004–2006 Mitsubishi Lancer (Ralliart and Sportback Wagon only)
* 2004–present Mitsubishi Galant
* 2004–present Mitsubishi Outlander
* 2006–present Mitsubishi Eclipse
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Suburu

The Subaru EJ engine is a series of automotive engines manufactured by Subaru, a division of Fuji Heavy Industries introduced mid 1989 for the 1st generation Legacy. The engine was designed by Masayuki Kodama, Takemasa Yamada and Shuji Sawafuji of FHI Ltd. Engines of this series are 16 valve flat-4 horizontal, with configurations available for SOHC and DOHC, natural aspiration and turbocharged. These engines are commonly used in light aircraft, kit cars and engine swaps into air cooled Volkswagens, but it's also popular as a swap into the wasserboxer engined Volkswagen Type 2.

Late model EJ20Gs are the same general design as the EJ20K 3a q3t Usage:

* Legacy RS 89-93
* Legacy RS-RA 89-93
* Legacy GT 89-93
* Impreza WRX 92~96
* Impreza WRX Wagon 92~98
* Impreza WRX STi 94~96

EJ15

1.5 Litre SOHC

Usage:

* Impreza (JDM only, though often seen in gray market exports to eastern Europe and Russia.)

[edit] EJ16

1.6 Litre SOHC, 90 hp (67 kW) @ 5600 rpm.

Usage:

* Impreza 93-94 (JDM only)
* Impreza 93-06 (Europe & Middle East)
* Impreza 93-97 (Australia)

[edit] EJ18

1.8 Litre SOHC 110 hp (82 kW) @ 5600 rpm.

Usage:

* Impreza 93-99
* Legacy (non-USDM) 90-96

[edit] EJ20

2.0 Litre SOHC or DOHC

[edit] EJ20T

This is not actually a valid code from Subaru, but is mostly used by enthusiasts (and can be seen in such context on webforums such as rs25)& also mechanics to describe the entire line of 2.0 litre turbocharged engines that have been available over time. When referring to the EJ20T, one is speaking of one of the following:

[edit] EJ20G

EJ20G fall in to 2 categories -early engines 1989-9/1996 -late wagon and automatic sedans from 1994/1996 and later



to identify an early EJ20G

* Coil on plug
* Divorced idle air wer q

Late model EJ20Gs are the same general design as the EJ20K 3a q3t Usage:

* Legacy RS 89-93
* Legacy RS-RA 89-93
* Legacy GT 89-93
* Impreza WRX 92~96
* Impreza WRX Wagon 92~98
* Impreza WRX STi 94~96

[edit] EJ20K

to identify an EJ20K

* Wasted spark coil pack on center of manifold
* Inlet under manifold
* Divorced idle air controller

Usage:

* Impreza WRX & STi 9/96~9/98

[edit] EJ205

This engine series is used for non-Japanese marketed WRX models in the world market as of 1999. The Japanese WRX models use the EJ207 from 1999~2001, except the 5-door wagon which also uses the EJ205. After 2001, all WRXs use the EJ205. to identify an EJ205:

* Coil on plug
* idle air integrated into throttle body

Usage: Impreza WRX

* 99~01 (JDM Wagon Body only)
* 01~current (all JDM)
* 02~05 (USDM)
* 99~current (all other markets)

[edit] EJ207

to identify an 9/99-9/2000 EJ207

* Wasted spark coil pack off center of manifold
* Inlet under manifold
* Red manifold

Usage:

* Impreza WRX STi 1998~present (JDM, specifically Homologation models for World_Rally_Championship)

2.0L Quad Cam Twin-turbo from JDM 1996 Subaru Legacy GT

[edit] EJ20TT

This can refer to one of the 2.0 Litre DOHC Sequential Twin Turbo and intercooled engines (EJ20H/EJ20R/EJ206/EJ208). Yet like EJ20T, it is not actually a valid code used by Subaru themselves.

Usage:

* Legacy GT, RS & B4 (JDM)

[edit] EJ20H

Usage:

* Legacy BD/BG5 JDM GT's (183 kW manual & auto) and GTB's (190 kW auto)

[edit] EJ20R

Usage:

* Legacy BD/BG5 JDM RSB and GTB's (205 kW Manual)

[edit] EJ206

Usage:

* Legacy BE/BH5 JDM GT's, GTB's and B4's (190 kW Auto)

[edit] EJ208

Usage:

* Legacy BE/BH5 JDM GT's, GTB's and B4's (205 kW Manual)

[edit] EJ22

Dr. Venture

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I'm not arguing the fact of the manufacturers sharing. I'm simply stating that it kinda sucks to me knowing that many other vehicles share my engine and on the road can keep up with my "sports car".

newtkindred

Just saying that everyone does it. But the thing is you can tune the same series motor to do different things. Changing the stroke, cams, crank, etc. makes a big difference. Then the vehicle weight, gearing, tire size, etc. makes a big difference too. The V series engines from Nissan are some of the best out there so why complain?? It is a nice motor. The FM platform is also a good one.

Dr. Venture

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Indeed, im not putting the motor down nor was i really complaining. Just saying as well that it shares it's engine. Other posters arguing that it didn't.

bruddahmatt

You were complaining.

No one was arguing that the VQ isn't shared with other Nissan vehicles. WE ALL KNOW THAT. The point is you were being fussy about the Z's engine being shared with "lesser Nissans" yet the HR isn't used in any Nissan below the Z. In other words, complaining about the Z sharing its engine with lesser cars became moot after 2006 since no "low line" FWD Nissans receive the HR.

newtkindred

To be fair, the VQ37VHR is still a VQ with a few modifications, primarily the VVEL. The HR was added on just to say it has "for "High Revolution" or "High Response" and the "V" for variable valve event and lift.

Dr. Venture

iTrader: (19)

^^^Exactly.

It wasn't complaining to the extent you mean. I was simply stating that when i originally bought the Z i was like YEAH a 350 Z with it's own awesome engine. Then i notice the Maxima has it, then the Altima got it amongst the FX and w/e else. Now read this part that i was ONLY talking about the MF'n DE!!! Of course later on the HR came out but i dont have the HR so to me i can't say much about it.


Plus all i was talking about originally was the 4.0 that i've never seen until that time so i was just asking about it.

bruddahmatt

You're kidding right? Please tell me you're kidding.

Agreeing enthusiastically with the above poster doesn't make either of your comments any less incorrect. The fact that the two of you immediately look to wEEkEEpedia whenever you need to support your bogus claims with "facts" indicates that neither of you really know what's going on. I bet you couldn't tell the difference between a VG and a VQ let alone an HR from a non-HR.

Dr. Venture

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rather then type something already done for me i'd say its easier to C and P.

newtkindred

Funny, I have had the VG and VQ on my engine stand in my garage ready to swap into my 240Z at various times.

I quoted Wikipedia for convenience. I like to get my info from http://www.sae.org/mags/aei. If you do not know what that is it is the magazine published by the International Society of Automotive Engineers, which I am a member. Oh, and it also helps that I have had a few of the engines I mentioned in my garage (4 of them Nissan's). Oh, and downloading detailed specs from SAE just out of my interest in engines, particularly the VQ and the others mentioned above to get a better idea what I wanted swapped into my project cars. I was looking into the Toyota, Honda, Ford and Chevy offerings as well.

Anyway SAE is the real deal. You can even discover who supplies the various parts to manufacturers, like wiring harnesses, starters, pistons, etc.


I also have a list of almost every engine manufactured in the last couple of decades, their detailed specs, where they are manufactured and so forth. Motor Trend, Car and Driver, etc. are watered down sources for car information.

OldDirty Z33

This thread sucks

newtkindred

[QUOTE=bruddahmatt;6615777]

You're kidding right? Please tell me you're kidding.

About what? The VQ37VHR is basically a stroked VQ35DE with a modified head and intake.

newtkindred

I agree, kind of forgotten what the original post was about.

bruddahmatt

So you fap to SAE PDFs every single day. What do you want for that a medal?

Perhaps by some miracle after all of your SAE review sessions you somehow know more than I do about BBC Rats, FE BBs and Chrysler RBs. Perhaps your wealth of statistical knowledge is indeed a vast one.

But IMO:

= ignorant.