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Old 01-23-2009, 06:31 PM   #41
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I ain't into the bench racing stuff...still waiting for a comparo vid on a track about the nismo vs the Almighty Superior New New Super Cool Revolutionary 370Z...

Until then **** the 370Z...but most of you guys already knew that...

I'm joking so don't get your fingers in a twist...
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Old 01-23-2009, 06:55 PM   #42
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Z32 TT's will still pwn it bwahaha.
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Old 01-23-2009, 07:08 PM   #43
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You almost some across as a 370 nuthugger...

but that's ok - it's a great car.

You forgot to add that with a shorter wheelbase, the 370 should be able to transfer more weight to the rear wheels for better launch traction.

Of couse we are talking stock cars here. I don't care if a 370 can pull on me - it should be able to, but if i can pull on a 370, then

I need to go to a 1/4 mile to see what I can do with the mods I have.
im just sick of people bashing it. it amazes me how logic defies some people. I swear HR owners truly believe that the 350z HR is somehow just as fast if not faster than the 370. when the HR came out, i was happy nissan improved the 350 and was proud that their little N/A v6 was capable of competing with of the domestic v8's and highly engineered european v6's. i always knew the HR was superior to the DE. the few DE nuthuggers clung onto the low end torque but in the end the numbers said HR > DE. i just dont understand how HR owners can even constantly belittle a superior machine. looks are subjective so whatever but numbers dont lie. the 370 handles and accelerates better than any previous generation 350z.

and yes, if my car was stock and i could somehow trade it for a 370 i would in a heartbeat.
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:38 PM   #44
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the 370 is awsome and all the new materials and correct usage of them are a wonderful thing.

i just wish that nissan could release an anniversary edition of the Z32 with some of the new materials is all. a VR35dett. aluminum panels, better engine harness. it would sell quite well im betting. an updated Z interior. too bad it's nothing but a pipe dream from nissan.
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:12 PM   #45
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What i heard from a lil birdy is that the engine is the same just bored out to a 3.7 different cams and a better tune on the power band from nissan?... so numbers should be better but not far from reach on a HR to meet..... as of power... But in all the 370Z is better hands down... im still waiting on the break down on the 370Z engine tho as of spec's
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Old 01-24-2009, 01:56 PM   #46
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What i heard from a lil birdy is that the engine is the same just bored out to a 3.7 different cams and a better tune on the power band from nissan?... so numbers should be better but not far from reach on a HR to meet..... as of power... But in all the 370Z is better hands down... im still waiting on the break down on the 370Z engine tho as of spec's
lil birdy told missinformed u lol if u have an HR just get heads off a G37 or 370Z and increase the stroke and you got yourself that same motor. but if ur already gonna stroke it might as well go to like a nice sounding 3.8 or higher. im sure in the near future shops will start to reflash the HR ecu for VVEL heads
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Old 01-24-2009, 03:45 PM   #47
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Some of you will defend your precious HRs to the very end, despite the overwhelming evidence supporting the fact that the 370Z is a faster car in every way than an HR 350Z.

Stop being such a fanboy.
What evidence?

I think it's a little faster, but I have yet to see any actual evidence. This dyno run is not making a good case.

I plan on going to one of the faster tracks next Saturday, if the weather is good, shooting for a 12.9. I think it is a reasonable goal there. It would be nice to see a 370Z, but I rarely see a 350Z. Someone needs to get to the track with a 370Z and put down some numbers.

I hope it is faster, having the claimed 332 hp. The extra weight will take a little bite out of the straightline advantage though, but it should still have an edge. I should add that my 07 base model weighed in at 2,235 +/-, with around half a tank of gas.

The difference so far between my stock 04.5 DE and my 07 HR is almost half a second. I just don't think it will be more than a couple of tenths this time, between the 07-08 and the 370Z, and it may be a while until someone breaks the current HR best. I may break it first. Well, I hope too anyway.
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Why do people kept talking about the 370's weight? Nismo 350/3352, 2008 350 base/3339 and 370 base/3232.

Someone may eventually break a 13.1 in a HR but I'm sure this will be the norm for decent 370 drivers. The car should be marginaly faster stock for stock and bolt on for bolt on with decent drivers. These are only acceleration numbers which should hold little value to the average Z driver who didn't buy the car for it's straight line performance. It's all about the total package so as far as braking and handling are concerned the 370 has proven to be without a doubt better according to magazine editors. Not to mention the redone interior.
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What evidence?

I think it's a little faster, but I have yet to see any actual evidence. This dyno run is not making a good case.

I plan on going to one of the faster tracks next Saturday, if the weather is good, shooting for a 12.9. I think it is a reasonable goal there. It would be nice to see a 370Z, but I rarely see a 350Z. Someone needs to get to the track with a 370Z and put down some numbers.

I hope it is faster, having the claimed 332 hp. The extra weight will take a little bite out of the straightline advantage though, but it should still have an edge. I should add that my 07 base model weighed in at 2,235 +/-, with around half a tank of gas.

The difference so far between my stock 04.5 DE and my 07 HR is almost half a second. I just don't think it will be more than a couple of tenths this time, between the 07-08 and the 370Z, and it may be a while until someone breaks the current HR best. I may break it first. Well, I hope too anyway.
The evidence is there, you're either overlooking it or choosing to ignore it. For instance, Car & Driver tested the 07 350Z at 13.5 in the 1/4 mile. When they tested the 09 370Z it ran a 13.3 1/4 mile. Now obviously people can get better stock times than what mag testers get during their limited time testing cars (I see that in your sig your stock time in your 07 350Z is 13.1). So if you can shave .4 seconds off the time posted by Car and Driver without any mod's what makes you think that 370 drivers won't be able to shave .4 off of their times also? If you shave .4 off of the 13.3 Car & Driver got testing the 370Z you get a 12.9 1/4 mile run. Like I said the evidence that the 370Z is faster is there, you just don't want to see it. You can't compare the stock time you got to the stock time's different publications got. When the owners of some of these 370Zs break in their cars and start tracking them you'll see a good number of them break 13 seconds in the 1/4 a mile.


I shouldn't even have to address this but if you read about the dyno run in this thread you'll find out that this dyno read's low and that the 350Z's dyno on this particular machine is much lower as well. The 370Z has had dyno runs that show 286.5 whp http://my350z.com/forum/2009-370z/40...yno-yet-2.html

The facts/evidence are all there maybe you'll be able to see it and accept it soon...
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most people wpnt even go sub 13.5 in a 370, it takes really good driving to go faster than that. just like when im at the track i see 03-05zs running 15s and some HRs not even getting into 13s, watching them put down our cars is so sad and embarrassing
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:37 PM   #52
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The evidence is there, you're either overlooking it or choosing to ignore it. For instance, Car & Driver tested the 07 350Z at 13.5 in the 1/4 mile. When they tested the 09 370Z it ran a 13.3 1/4 mile. Now obviously people can get better stock times than what mag testers get during their limited time testing cars (I see that in your sig your stock time in your 07 350Z is 13.1). So if you can shave .4 seconds off the time posted by Car and Driver without any mod's what makes you think that 370 drivers won't be able to shave .4 off of their times also? If you shave .4 off of the 13.3 Car & Driver got testing the 370Z you get a 12.9 1/4 mile run. Like I said the evidence that the 370Z is faster is there, you just don't want to see it. You can't compare the stock time you got to the stock time's different publications got. When the owners of some of these 370Zs break in their cars and start tracking them you'll see a good number of them break 13 seconds in the 1/4 a mile.


I shouldn't even have to address this but if you read about the dyno run in this thread you'll find out that this dyno read's low and that the 350Z's dyno on this particular machine is much lower as well. The 370Z has had dyno runs that show 286.5 whp http://my350z.com/forum/2009-370z/40...yno-yet-2.html

The facts/evidence are all there maybe you'll be able to see it and accept it soon...

So what you are saying is that one magazine only had .2 of difference between the HR and the 370, while testing during different conditions? That's not much to argue with. I know of one HR here locally that put down 290 rwhp stock. That being a high run, there have also been a few here posting similar numbers. I was hoping for numbers of 300 rwhp+ for the 370.

The weight the mags are getting on the 370Z isn't as low as Nissan's claim either.

Anyway, I have no problem accepting it, in fact, I REALLY hope it posts at least .2 quicker of a time, but until someone runs quicker than a 13.1, there isn't factual evidence of a quicker time.
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i have a 07 nismo, with intake, tune, header, test pipe, dual exhaust im putting down 283 on the dynojet corrected. so i think that the 370 has a good amount of power stock. though it is easy to get more power from our motor. just like you could from the 370 also. i like the 370, ive seen several new body kits that fix the front and rear bumper. thats all i dont like about it.
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:03 AM   #54
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The tires are 1" larger in diameter on a 370Z which make traction much better off the line it also makes up for make the gearing change . In the real world of the steet the driver will make all the difference.

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To quote C&D: "At the track, the 370Z easily outpaced its predecessor: 0.3 second quicker to 60 mph, a half-second quicker to 100. What we have here is a $35,000 car that accelerates to 60 mph a mere 10th behind a Porsche Cayman S. The new Z's 30-50 passing potential is now about a SECOND better, and it picked up 0.9 second in its 50-70-mph burst."

Those mid-range acceleration numbers can be felt. Although I understand the 1/4-mile test and comparisons everyone is talking about, the mid-range and 0-60 numbers are what most people 'feel' in thier daily drive.

Would I swap for a 370? Sure - but I am waiting for the Roadster and will make my decision at that time. In the interim, I'm enjoying what I have
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So what you are saying is that one magazine only had .2 of difference between the HR and the 370, while testing during different conditions? That's not much to argue with. I know of one HR here locally that put down 290 rwhp stock. That being a high run, there have also been a few here posting similar numbers. I was hoping for numbers of 300 rwhp+ for the 370.

The weight the mags are getting on the 370Z isn't as low as Nissan's claim either.

Anyway, I have no problem accepting it, in fact, I REALLY hope it posts at least .2 quicker of a time, but until someone runs quicker than a 13.1, there isn't factual evidence of a quicker time.
The factual evidence lies in the fact that pretty much every mag is getting faster times out of the 370Z than they did with an HR Z. I'm still baffled how people are arguing about this, even though it's clear that the 370Z is faster just by looking at numbers. As a DE owner, I have no problem accepting the fact that both the HR and 370Z are superior performing cars, but I still love my Z
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Having had an 07 HR Z, and the current G37S I have driven both motrs, and can attest to each. My Hr was moddified slightly and man I loved that car, so much fun.

The 3.7 though is such a different feel to it and the power band is so much stronger through ALL Rpm. I know the G is not as fast as the old Z, but I cannot wait for the 3.7 in the smaller lighter car.

I am going to track my 370 when I get it.
I will post up what I get.

I am NOT the worlds greatest drag racer, but all the cars have and will see many tracks.

People who claim the HR is as fast have not driven the new 3.7, or 370Z plain and simple.
They look at magazine numbers...go drive one.
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Id love to see a Tsukuba with a 370Z, 350Z, E92, Boxster S, S2000 and a base Carrera 4S for good measure.
Why sandbag it with a Boxster? It should be the Cayman S...
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The evidence is there, you're either overlooking it or choosing to ignore it. For instance, Car & Driver tested the 07 350Z at 13.5 in the 1/4 mile. When they tested the 09 370Z it ran a 13.3 1/4 mile. Now obviously people can get better stock times than what mag testers get during their limited time testing cars (I see that in your sig your stock time in your 07 350Z is 13.1). So if you can shave .4 seconds off the time posted by Car and Driver without any mod's what makes you think that 370 drivers won't be able to shave .4 off of their times also? If you shave .4 off of the 13.3 Car & Driver got testing the 370Z you get a 12.9 1/4 mile run. Like I said the evidence that the 370Z is faster is there, you just don't want to see it. You can't compare the stock time you got to the stock time's different publications got. When the owners of some of these 370Zs break in their cars and start tracking them you'll see a good number of them break 13 seconds in the 1/4 a mile.


I shouldn't even have to address this but if you read about the dyno run in this thread you'll find out that this dyno read's low and that the 350Z's dyno on this particular machine is much lower as well. The 370Z has had dyno runs that show 286.5 whp http://my350z.com/forum/2009-370z/40...yno-yet-2.html

The facts/evidence are all there maybe you'll be able to see it and accept it soon...


You have to remember: Shaving 4 tenths off a mid 13 is hell of alot easier than shaving 4 tenths off a low 13 second run.

Despite that, the 370 should be faster, it would be a big disappointment if not.
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